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Old 10-26-2009, 05:58 PM
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Im'dreaming, but IMHO there is space for 2 different rotary model:

a)an hardcore rx-7 100% pure sports 2 seater marginally heavier than a base mx-5

b) a more big rx-8 with bigger freestyle doors...a cross between a sport car/coupè and a sports sedan.slightly bigger than current 8

but, as i 've said....just dreams.......
I dream the same dreams and believe they are plausible. It would even make sense in terms of sharing cost. Some of us want a strict two seater and a lot of us think the 4 door rotary sports car is a winner. Of course MX5 uses the same architecture.

Come on Mazda, you can do it!

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^^^ it doesnt hurt to dream... hopefully one day it will come true.. i wouldnt mind owning two 21st century rotary powered vehicles
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:23 PM
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Breaking News:

Mazda develops direction injection 16X rotary that cuts fuel consumption in half and produces 300hp.

They have decided to shelf all their piston engines and convert their entire model lineup to front mid engine RWD cars.
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:57 PM
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Mazda goes bankrupt as stocks fall to an all time Low.
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Breaking News:

mazda decides to build the rx-9, a 4 door saloon, with a turbocharged renesis that inexplicably has half the horsepower and a third of the torque of the rx8 while increasing the weight by 700lbs.
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
I dream the same dreams and believe they are plausible. It would even make sense in terms of sharing cost. Some of us want a strict two seater and a lot of us think the 4 door rotary sports car is a winner. Of course MX5 uses the same architecture.

Come on Mazda, you can do it!

Paul.

another possibility (for the bigger one, i think in a couple of year that we'll see a new rx-7 concept similar to my toughts) is to mate the hybrid system of Premacy h2 cutting the h2 stuff.

They have build a number of cars ok for going into normal traffic. it' a big piece of work.
They can use this experience for build an hybrid rotary flagship.


always just dreams?
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Old 10-27-2009, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MattMPS
another possibility (for the bigger one, i think in a couple of year that we'll see a new rx-7 concept similar to my toughts) is to mate the hybrid system of Premacy h2 cutting the h2 stuff.

They have build a number of cars ok for going into normal traffic. it' a big piece of work.
They can use this experience for build an hybrid rotary flagship.


always just dreams?
Then we would have no rotaries, considering how hybrid technologies and h2 cars are seen in europe
I'm saving up for my next rotary anyway
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:34 PM
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Considering how many interested customers it takes to sell enough cars for a company like Mazda, it seems like basically no one gives a **** about rotaries, in fact most people who are somewhat into cars don't even know what rotaries are. I am all for a new rotary but with so little interest they can't have that much resources to work with for development. I will be shocked if it has over 270 bhp and gets a realistic 20+ city.
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I guess much will depend on any lead-up promotion, leaks, propaganda, motor-show prototypes, etc.

PLEASE Mazda, NO more Concepts...we have seen enough, we know you can do it..

Unfortunately because of Mazda unforgivable RENESIS 1 engine issues I am pretty sure they are just waiting to see how the 09's (RENESIS II) go in the field (I think I have said this before).

Mazda just can not afford another engine issue for the rotary.

Having said that there is still a lot of goodwill from Mazda "rotary enthusiasts", whether this turns into SALES is another story.

As much as I would like to see a ball tearing, massive horsepower, fire breathing monster...
at what cost??, I don't see a $40K US ($75K AUD) RX- selling very well.
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Old 11-13-2009, 01:32 AM
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For $40k I would really consider a fully loaded 370z.

No, $30-32k is what Mazda should once again aim for.
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Yeah, I was about to say. The Z has just recently reached the 40k Market, as has the Evo. Mainly because they have years of user base behind them. Once the Rotary and RX series begins to be a huge seller, they can think about going upmarket.
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That's about the worst idea ever. Hydrogen is a flop.
I want streetable Nitromethane.
Imagine making all of our automobile fuel from Propane....
I am sure we could overcome the whole exploding Nitromethane stations thing and noxious exhaust fumes.


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Originally Posted by Symbioticgenius
Yeah, I was about to say. The Z has just recently reached the 40k Market, as has the Evo. Mainly because they have years of user base behind them. Once the Rotary and RX series begins to be a huge seller, they can think about going upmarket.

In addition to that user base, the Z has also had incremental changes from year to year that make the car better. You 'd have to struggle to make that same argument for the 8.
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:27 PM
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I started to try to make that argument. Went for the EMOP, and Flashes, then struggled... so I fully see your point.

Not really sure about Nitromethane, but Im damn sure about Ethanol. Mazda needs to start pushing a Dual tune for that, at the very least.
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I'm actually surprised at how many people know there's a rotary engine and that it's in my car. I stumble across people that owned RX-3's decades ago and such.
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You've got rx3s up there? we never saw'em
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Originally Posted by bse50
You've got rx3s up there? we never saw'em
This one was at my Mazda Meet last Saturday. We used to have lots of them here.

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This one was at my Mazda Meet last Saturday. We used to have lots of them here.

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My birthday is on July, 27th
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You've got rx3s up there? we never saw'em
I guess they were imported, I'm not sure if they sold them new, but they may have. When I had my MX-5 I drove to Bodø in Northern Norway (almost as far as to Italy ), and the ex's father there had owned a few rotaries it turned out when we started talking about cars since I had a Mazda.
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Cool Last Chance Mazda

I have been patiently waiting for the new 16X engine in the RX-8.
If the 2011 Model does not offer this engine, you lost me Mazda, I'm out of here. Tired of waiting.
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:11 PM
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I have been patiently waiting for the new 16X engine in the RX-8.
If the 2011 Model does not offer this engine, you lost me Mazda, I'm out of here. Tired of waiting.
NOOOOooo, don't leave... think of everything you have contributed to the community... all the meaningful posts and helpful comments. What will we do without your wisdom? Damn you Mazda!!!! DAMN YOUUUUUUU.....

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Smile Revised 2011 RX-8 Plans

My plan was to sell my 2006 Mazda 3 5 door Hatch and purchase a 2011 RX-8 with the Renesis 16X engine. This appears to be hopeless since the engineers at Madza cannot get it done after all these development years. So, this what I will start driving more often:

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I have no idea what that is and wouldn't be caught dead in it but if that's what you're into have at it.
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.......you lost me Mazda, I'm out of here. Tired of waiting.

You got two posts - how long we kept you waitin'?
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