VashGS

It's not luck it's the ablity to control consumer power by press. You guys need to organize and demand match of the warranty. Use media pressure. A simple formula needs to be realized by Mazda. This is web era, no more lies, no more hiding and if they want to make smack videos about "Crafstmanship" time to put up or shut up.

elysium19

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Guys - I don't know the details but they are now using some combination of compression check numbers and vacuum line numbers to determine if an engine is good or not. I've also read that the vacuum test is now done alone and sometimes instead of traditional compression checks.

They should DEFINITELY be doing one of those two tests though.

VashGS

You can pay for a check and you demand the compression numbers. You tell them that other dealerships are doing it for there customers. You ask for the service manager and tell them why they want you to go around town telling every person you know how much they suck compared to other Mazda USA dealerships service centers. Need to learn to go for the juggular. I don't deal with stealerships often but when I do lol. Rotary is War!

dannobre

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A lot of the dealers don't have the compression testers any more. The old standalone testers from RX-7 days are getting old...and the WDS units aren't used anymore....

MazdaRX-8SPEED

what should i say if they ask me what oil i use? cause their tech called me and had a series of questions that he asked me about the oil... didnt get "what grade of oil do you use" yet. lol

Krazed_Rx8

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Tell em the type u use. They can't deny warranty just on that.

dannobre

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" I always used what the service manual said"

" I always used what the dealer recommended"

MazdaRX-8SPEED

AWESOME!!! I DONT HAVE THE OIL CHANGE RECEIPTS AND MAZDA CANT CHANGE MY ENGINE... HELL NO IM FIGHTING TILL I GET A NEW ENGINE! pissed!!!!!

9krpmrx8

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BS, get a "shop" to make you invoices.

MazdaRX-8SPEED

^ too late i told him that i do all the oil changes and unfortunately i paid with cash... but i had one receipt of the recent oil change which he wanted me to send him a copy of. but another prob is that i used 5w30 oil instead of mazda req. 5w20. think they will jump on my *** for that?

9krpmrx8

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They may try but remember, no where in the manual does it say 5W-20 is required, only that it is recommended. If they wanted to void the warranty based on that the owners manual would have to say that it is required and may cause engine damage if you don't use it.

MazdaRX-8SPEED

omg! i knew this **** was going to happen. lol

RotaryResurrection

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I've heard mazda has been getting very strict on rx8 engine replacements in the last few months.

TeamRX8

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I haz engine, uz need?

MazdaRX-8SPEED

well if i do get the car fixed and IF i decide to keep the car... next oil changes are at the dealer. so if something f's up or if they f something up its their prob... =)

RotaryResurrection

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IF you'd bothered to keep your receipts for purchase of the oil/filter, and keep a simple dated and mileage log of the oil changes, you'd have no problems. For people who are worried about dealer warranty, I dont know why this is so hard to understand.

Look at it from the manufacturer's point of view. There is a large segment of the general population who will run a vehicle for 7-10k miles between oil changes, and when you mention it to them they will be like "oh.....is that bad??". Why should the manufacturer be liable for fuckups like that? As a business owner one thing I've learned is that many members of the public are twice as eager to defraud the business, as the shadiest business is eager to defraud the customer. Everybody wants something for nothing and wants you to 'stand behind your product" no matter how old it is or how it's been treated, because, you know, "the customer is always right".

MazdaRX-8SPEED

^ holy ****!!! how the hell was i supposed to know that the engine was going to **** on me?! yea i didnt do my research before i bought the car and now im paying for it! AND WHERE THE HELL DOES IT SAY THAT IM SUPPOSED TO KEEP MY F* RECEIPTS?! mazda made a faulty engine, mazda needs to take responsibility. i take care of my car like no other. and if the mech is good then he wouldnt he be able to tell if the engine was taken care of or treated like ****?!

edit: and im not a ******* dipshit like most people that buy a car and expect the thing to run without any maintenance for 100k mile. what about the people like me that do take care of their car but dont have the info to prove that they do... did the "Manufacture" think of those people?!

xexok

Yes I am sure they did think of those kind of people, and you fall in the same line as people who didnt do an oil change at the proper time. You need receipts for everything in life when something goes wrong, the days of taking someones word as the truth are long gone as sad as it is to say.

I have only done a few oil changes myself but everytime I keep the receipt for the oil and the filter and write down my current mileage on it, because I dont plan on getting screwed by mazda if I ever do need a motor.

Chavy

hmm well this doesn't sound good i'm at 92k and was hoping for a compression test....

MazdaRX-8SPEED

yea well when i did start keeping the receipts thats when things went wrong and i only have proof of one oil change. so i guess it sucks to be me cause i didnt hold on to the receipts..

RotaryResurrection

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OF all cars sold since 2003 it would be my guess that the rx-8 is probably at the top of the list for manufacturer warranty engine replacements. I have no data to support that but drive around the back of any mazda dealership service department and you will see at least one or two rx8s at any given time, at most every dealership in the country.

So you bought the car most prone to engine issues, in fact so much so that the manufacturer took action and extended their warranty to almost double what it originally was.

You knew you were in warranty and would be for some time to come. And, I assume, you wanted to be able to take advantage of that warranty should the need arise. But you failed to do what common sense would dictate to most reasonable people as being necessary to qualify for warranty...yet it is the manufacturer's fault?

I can't agree with that.

I'm not a dealership kind of guy. Even if I went out today and bought a brand new camaro or corvette, it would probably never see the dealership service bay in it's life. I've done all my own work on my vehicles for about the last 13 years. I usually do significant modifications that would void a manufacturer warranty anyway. As such, I've never concerned myself with keeping dedicated logs of maintenance. But, if I were worried about going to dealerships and staying under warranty, then I would, because it is common sense.

VashGS

Probably costing to much cash with Rx8 sales slowing to a crawl. The Rx8 probably will shut down sooner than later for 2011. They will only need to produce prob half or a quarter of normal production for MY2011

This is what happens when you slack off for years on clutch pedal and hassle people about reflashing etc.

Mazda needs to know you can't replace an engine then cut other corners. This is not logical, this will **** off customers, this will make them look bad in an aggressive market. Right now GM is killing on Camaro sales and there service is white glove. (trying to pressure mazda to fixing my clutch bracket 4 free lol).

MazdaRX-8SPEED

okay i understand what you are saying RR, but i didnt buy the car at a mazda dealer and no one told me that i need to keep receipts of what i did to the car. i only owned the rx8 for 2 years and i just recently started to hold the receipts.

RotaryResurrection

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I understand what you are saying and I'm not busting your *****. But like I said, look at it from a business owner's or manufacturer's point of view realistically. You cant just let random people show up and be like "yo dawg, I need a new motor, ya dig" with zero documentation whatsoever, and be like "oh okay, here is $5000 worth of parts and service based solely upon your word...because a man's word is his bond in this day and age".

I build engines and there are several things that the purchaser has to do in order to keep his warranty, including a proper breakin, oil changes, abstinence from race activities, and in some circumstances part replacement of components that could contribute to a new engine dying quickly (thermostat, water pump, radiator, fans, oil cooler flush service, fuel system service, etc.). I dont dictate to them that they HAVE to do that stuff, only if they want ME to be responsible for how long the new engine lives. It's not MY fault if its neglected or abused and fails prematurely...its their decision to make.

MazdaRX-8SPEED

well then wouldnt the internal parts of the engine show if its been taken care of or run on the same oil forever? hmmm. well the auto parts store that i go to, to buy my parts for the 8 told me that they have my back. they know me over there and they know that i have been having recent problems with the car and they know i buy oil, so they gave me their cards with names on it and said if needed i can use them as a reference. think mazda will look at me differently if i have them call the auto parts store? lol