wilsrx8

does any one have any idea if the engine how to get it started after it seems like it took to much gas. i took off my turbo kit along with the interceptor x and i put it back to stock, but i didnt have an intake so i try turning it on just like that. it did turn on but it turn off as soon as i hit the gas. i finally put the intake and change the spark plugs but it still wont turn on, does anyone have any idea what it can be and how to fix it?

Juice

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Car is flooded. Just push start it. It might take a few tries but it will work.

And why did you try and start the car without an intake? Did you at least have the MAF installed in the tube and just no box, or was it just a straight open throttle body?

Atkins mama

Q. What is flooding, and how can I avoid it?
A. By design, the RX-8’s rotary engine uses both gasoline and oil. “Flooding” occurs when, as the owner’s manual states, there is “excessive fuel in the engine.” To avoid flooding, Mazda suggests a “short driving trip procedure” for trips that are too short to warm up the car adequately:

1. Start car

2. Move vehicle

3. Warm engine for 5 minutes at idle

4. Raise engine speed to 3000 RPM for 10 seconds

5. Return to idle

6. Turn off engine


To help further remove the excess fuel, it is recommended that you rev your engine to at least 3000 RPM before shutting it off.

In the event of a flood, the following start-up procedure should be performed:

1. While the accelerator pedal is fully depressed, turn the ignition switch to the START position and crank the engine for 7 to 8 seconds.

2. Release the ignition switch and accelerator pedal.

3. Start the engine as normally without depressing the accelerator.

nycgps

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Its not flooded, notice he has *turbo* and *back to stock* and *tried to run w/o intake* and *now back together still dont run*

ur engine blew.

Haze

Yeah, that "tried to run without intake" thing. I assume that he meant that he tried to run it without the stock intake? It could be totally FUBARED, but it also could be a flood, could also be faires having not looked at it. Best of luck to you.

Juice

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While this whole situation is pretty dumb. He said it did in fact start up, then stalled after he hit the gas. Since he was giving it fuel and it shut down cold, I only assume that it is flooded, given the information. I could be wrong, something could have gotten into the engine, but probably not given it was only started for such a short time.

Juice

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Basically what I got from his post was:

1. Turbo running with Interceptor X
2. Removed Turbo and Interceptor
3. Put Back to stock minus the stock intake
4. Started the car
5. Gave it gas and it flooded
6. Put stock intake back on
7. Tries to start but doesn't.

All this indicates it is most likely flooded unless we get more info

dannobre

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Where's the MAF...no intake=no MAF??????


It won't run without the MAF hooked up....

Juice

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I asked about it in my first post, but he hasn't replied yet. I only assume that there either wasn't a filter or box, but still the maf and tube. The car won't even turn over without it.

EDIT: He really needs to give as much information as possible on modifications that were done, and what exactly he did to put the car back to stock. Right now its pretty much all speculation.

RojoOcho

I don't think he's for real. If it was that serious he would have replied back by now.

Haze

Yup, this is pretty much what i think. With information currently on hand, I'm sticking with fairies. Could be a flood, could be the MAF is damaged, could be a leak in the intake, could be he didn't reflash the PCM after reinstalling the stock intake. Could be almost anything. I wonder if it threw any codes?

wilsrx8

it did start but all i did is put the air sensor in a home made intake just to get the car starting, but like i said it turn off after i hit the gas. should i just take it to the dealer ship down the street, and how much time does it usually take to get it running. im not so much of a hurry cuz i just got my cx7. but i still wana get the 8 up and running.

Juice

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First off, if you have the stock intake box, put that back on.

If it is just cranking and not starting it is probably just flooded, since it stalled when the engine was still cold.

Anything else you can tell us as far as what it is doing now when you try to start it?

EDIT: Don't take my word for gospel. You need to give us as much information as you can. Its still really unclear what exactly happened and what is happening now. I'm sure everyone will agree with me that more information is needed to diagnose a car over the internet other than it doesn't start.

wilsrx8

i put on an aem cold intake because i didnt have the oem. i change the spark plugs also because the ones i had were cold. and all it still does is cranck.

Juice

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http://www.finishlineperformance.com...48-06-1691.pdf

Read through that. This is what the dealerships use as the standard deflooding procedure. The AEM intake is fine, as long as it is meant for an RX-8 and all the vacuum lines are hooked up correctly. Go through the procedures in the TSB and if that doesn't help then try push starting. If that doesn't work, then take it to Mazda.

Razz1

did you plug the vaccum on the bottom of the TB or did you re-install the VFAD?

wilsrx8

im gona try and work on it again tomorrow and ill let u guys now how it goes!!!!

enforcer