An RX-8 Sport Wagon
01-09-2003, 11:42 AM
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Arguing Pedantics
So you're saying that instead of making an RX8 sportwagon that they should launch an whole new vehicle based on the RX8 platform with the RX8 motor? What's the difference? Sure man, call it the Bugaboo...I don't care. Fact is I'd be a shiatsu load more likely to buy something like that rather than the relatively impractical and non-utilitarian RX8. Like most people out there I'd love to dive a true sports car but can't afford to sacrifice virtually all utility.
Your arguement about cost is ludicrous....Are you seriously trying to propose that it's cheaper to make a whole new car as opposed to modifying an existing one slightly? Rooiiigghht....
As for weight distribution penalties...let's do a little math just 'cause that's what engineer's and scientists and stuff do OK? The RX8 weighs a hefty 2900 lbs, the wagon would add 50 lbs. for a total of 2950 (look at the weight difference between other wagons/sedans and you'll find this to be an accurate number). On the RX8 that would be 2900/2=1450 per axle. Now we take 1450+50 to get 1500 which we divide over 2950 (the wagon's new weight) to get.....49.2/50.8 front rear weight distribution. Perhaps that .8% change would RADICALLY alter the vehicle's dynamics but I kinda doubt it.....
Bring on the New Rotarty Powered Bugaboo with 49.2/50.8% front rear wieght distribution, the world is WAITING! Meanwhile I'll just count on the new Infinity GX35 wagon, it'll be faster anyway.
Your arguement about cost is ludicrous....Are you seriously trying to propose that it's cheaper to make a whole new car as opposed to modifying an existing one slightly? Rooiiigghht....
As for weight distribution penalties...let's do a little math just 'cause that's what engineer's and scientists and stuff do OK? The RX8 weighs a hefty 2900 lbs, the wagon would add 50 lbs. for a total of 2950 (look at the weight difference between other wagons/sedans and you'll find this to be an accurate number). On the RX8 that would be 2900/2=1450 per axle. Now we take 1450+50 to get 1500 which we divide over 2950 (the wagon's new weight) to get.....49.2/50.8 front rear weight distribution. Perhaps that .8% change would RADICALLY alter the vehicle's dynamics but I kinda doubt it.....
Bring on the New Rotarty Powered Bugaboo with 49.2/50.8% front rear wieght distribution, the world is WAITING! Meanwhile I'll just count on the new Infinity GX35 wagon, it'll be faster anyway.
01-09-2003, 04:36 PM
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this will be my last post on this topic and especially in this thread:
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF MIKE WOULD EVERYONE STOP RESPONDING TO THIS MADNESS. IT JUST KEEPS IT GOING! no offense windadah meant towards you, i just cant stand this thread anymore and wish it would just go away.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF MIKE WOULD EVERYONE STOP RESPONDING TO THIS MADNESS. IT JUST KEEPS IT GOING! no offense windadah meant towards you, i just cant stand this thread anymore and wish it would just go away.
10-26-2004, 09:31 AM
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Look, I want to be able to haul my dog and 3 other people in fast efficient comfort and style.
Seriously, if the design were done with some flair I think a hatchback could look pretty cool. I'm not holding my breath though.
10-26-2004, 09:34 AM
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Yay! I'm back...Not!
Sorry to say folx but the RX-8 SUX! Let's see, it gets worse gas mileage than a Ford Explorer, makes Less Torque than a Toyota Corolla and weighs more too! Let's not even get started on how the Rotary burns more oil than an Iraqi Well Fire! I'm sorry but I really haven't seen many RX-8's out there, so I guess other people feel like I do....18MPG! Are you f'ing kidding? If you're going to get that kind of mileage you'd at least expect it to haul loads of crap or people! 18MPG and no torque? Gee, I wonder why the Rotary is soon to be dead all over again? Best of luck to all of you who bought one....Bet you can't wait for $3 gasoline huh?
10-26-2004, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by windahdah
Sorry to say folx but the RX-8 SUX! Let's see, it gets worse gas mileage than a Ford Explorer, makes Less Torque than a Toyota Corolla and weighs more too! Let's not even get started on how the Rotary burns more oil than an Iraqi Well Fire! I'm sorry but I really haven't seen many RX-8's out there, so I guess other people feel like I do....18MPG! Are you f'ing kidding? If you're going to get that kind of mileage you'd at least expect it to haul loads of crap or people! 18MPG and no torque? Gee, I wonder why the Rotary is soon to be dead all over again? Best of luck to all of you who bought one....Bet you can't wait for $3 gasoline huh?
10-26-2004, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by windahdah
This may sound wild but I think the RX-8 would be perfect if only I could haul my dog in it too! Make it and I will buy one for sure.
It appears the RX-8 is getting bashed by the poster so what gives with what you first started to write?
10-26-2004, 12:01 PM
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This may sound wild but I think the RX-8 would be perfect if only it had 400 hp and had a pullout bed and discoglobe in the back! Make it and I will buy one for sure.
10-26-2004, 12:28 PM
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For the money a shop could take an RX and turn it into whatever you wanted. Not sure 400 hp unless they increase the number of rotaries. Then again, for the money it could be done. Even if you could afford to mod an RX like this would you really want to do that to an RX?
10-26-2004, 12:49 PM
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You are too poluted by the image of American station wagons with fake wood side panels. Sport wagons are great. Just look at those BMW, Audi, and Volkswgen sport wagons. In Europe there are many of those on the road.
Originally Posted by veloceracing
chalk another reason as to why i am NOT buying an RX8. images of the WRX sport wagon and the IS300 sport cross have entered my head and i cant sleep anymore...thanks
SAY NO TO STATION WAGONS!
SAY NO TO STATION WAGONS!
10-26-2004, 01:32 PM
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10-26-2004, 01:36 PM
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if you want a sport wagon Mazda makes a lovely 6wagon. its even got awd in europe. Or the mazda 3 hatch is nice also.
ike- couldnt you just use the discoglobe from your current car so you didnt have to buy a new one? :D
ike- couldnt you just use the discoglobe from your current car so you didnt have to buy a new one? :D
10-26-2004, 02:54 PM
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RX-8 station wagon...GOD HELP US ALL!!!
I don't care how they make it look, how much HP they give it...a WAGON is a WAGON...nothing more...but could be much less.
Heck, some people complain the 8 is 2+2 and has 2 extra doorlitz...if they build a wagon RX-8...they should just put in a V-8 and call it VX-8 or something.
Other than a supercharger or turbo...leave the 8 alone....
Wagon...I mean come on man...LOL :p
I don't care how they make it look, how much HP they give it...a WAGON is a WAGON...nothing more...but could be much less.
Heck, some people complain the 8 is 2+2 and has 2 extra doorlitz...if they build a wagon RX-8...they should just put in a V-8 and call it VX-8 or something.
Other than a supercharger or turbo...leave the 8 alone....
Wagon...I mean come on man...LOL :p