DarkBrew

I watched a T3 race last year where a Cobalt was racing RX8s. The Cobalt SS was really fast until his brakes and tires overheated then he got passed by a Miata and any RX8s that had not already gone by.
RX8s finished 1,2,3,4.
If you want to race a turbo Cobalt make sure it's not on a straight road...

Rhythmic

The Z taking out the Evo...I am actually pretty suprised by that

Z top end has more than the Evo's top end?

As for the chevy...ah **** on it.

SoloMazda8

At a track stock on stock the SS s/c would take the 8? A drag track, that is. With a few mods the 8 could take the SS, right?

Transam kid 01

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Doubt it...anyway, it is easy to mod a cobalt ss s/c b/c of the supercharger. Pulley change FTW.


O and dark brew...its a supercharger not a turbocharger

Skiptomylue

torque is the big factor...

chickenwafer

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Cobalt SS' are quick..........in a straight line.

I know this because an ex-coworker of mine (whom I am still friends with) owns one. Black with black wheels. We went a few spirted drives, and we would go like stink on the straights. He only had an intake. They are rated at like 210 from the factory? I can tell you that's an under rating. At least 210 is making it to those front wheels.
But anyways, once we hit some mountains and the twisties, I never saw him. He faded into my rear view and then he was gone for about 10 minuets. I pulled over on the shoulder and waited for 2 minuets until he showed up. He said he was going like 10/10 of his skill and he couldn't keep up with my 7/10 (not saying I'm a better driver, just driving a better machine). He was on the brakes the whole time and had to get new pads after that drive....
Not to mention the interoir is a joke. The seats are flat and feel like leatherite; the plastic is greasy; the pedals are placed horribly (for me at least), the shifter is notchy, the gauges are from a parts bin, everything screams "rental car!" fleet vehicle. Not for me, thanks. For less I can get an SRT-4 that's even faster and more boyracer!

Not to mention Cobalt SS' are like $24K OTD. You can get a nice used RX8 for less OTD with well under 20k miles and in very nice condition. I did.

1stgen8

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or the pontiac G5.......looks just like the ss. I saw a G5 the other day and thought someone swapped a pontiac grille into a cobalt.

Transam kid 01

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Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races

CTrx8

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not this argument again. i hear rotarygod knocking on the door.

Transam kid 01

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O then i guess i would only be causing problems if i said that there is no replacement for displacement

Skiptomylue

no sir!its 100 percent true. i miss my 94 trans am sometimes..

Transam kid 01

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As much as i love my 8...it is always a pleasure to drive my brothers modded 98 t/a...even if it is auto....God i love that car!

SoloMazda8

So FI is the only way to keep up? No amount of mods will help you cause the SS s/c is already boosted.

JeRKy 8 Owner

Didn't know the SS was supercharged. Great..so even that crapmobile can outrun/keep up with an 8 (straight line). Just gets better and better

9krpmrx8

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Cobalts are mostly crap from an ergonomic and luxury stand point but they will definately walk an RX8 in a 1/4 mile stomp. I have one of the faster times at SAR for a stock RX8 (14.8) and I have a lot of drag experience and I have been beaten by a few Cobalt SS's. But a crappy driver can change the whole scenerio in a heart beat. I have beaten a few 350's at the track and even a Z28 once. That of course was nothing but bad driving because Z's usually run 14.3's or better and a properly driven LS1 powered Z28 should run high 13's easy.

JeRKy 8 Owner

I don't race people from stoplights or any of that **** in my 8, but seeing that video of a Cobalt effortlessly passing an 8...it just hurts my heart. You know? It's like...aah god I can't talk about this any longer..

Transam kid 01

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eh, i could see high 13s for a crappy driver...but mids shouldnt be a problem and i know many people who have reached very low 13s....but i get what ur saying

Razz1

You will be him on the race track not in the streets.

Maybe aon a nice country road but who in in the heck lives in the country anymore?

Raptor2k

Horsepower wins races actually...=/

And RX-8s pwnzor in teh tw1stiez

Ike

Yep, it happened... It'll never happen again, but yeah... It was in the mid 90's IIRC which means the Evo was probably dealing with some heat soak and they were also having problems with the Evo brakes for some reason. The Evo will normally pull on a Z at any speed so it was odd the Z had higher straightaway speeds. In fact in other track comparos I've seen the Evo was right on top of the Cayman S so it was odd that the Cayman S beat it by as much as it did as well.

As for the Chevy, they're pretty fast, faster stock for stock than an RX-8. They also are no slouch in the handling department.

SoloMazda8

So our cars are pretty much just good in the turns. I suppose I can handle that.

chickenwafer

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unless you can equal airflow. But increasing an engines volume is the easiest way to increase flow.

How about no replacement for volumetric efficency (VE)??

NoTears316

This thread makes baby Jesus cry.

Aznxkaiser

Its as if the RX8 was just hit by this..brick wall. I mean, a Cobalt SS being so close to the 8 time, that just makes me wanna

CTrx8

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i don't know why it matters. i don't think any of us that are educated about the 8 planned on trying to race anyone off the line. and yes, the SS is pretty crazy fast for a cobalt in a straight line. my brother got one since he likes to drag and no one ever expects it to do much but i rode shotgun and it's fast. i tried to drive it but couldn't get used to the gears and wasn't able to do much with it.