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10-17-2005, 04:30 PM
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4 people obviously because of seat belts. My car doesn't move unless everyone wears seat belts. I have no idea why anyone would even take a chance not wearing a seatbelt. I've used this example so many times to my friends who dont' wear seat belts
car is going 100km/h, your body is going 100km/h
car stops (accident) from 100 -> almost 0 in less then a few seconds
Now what happens to your body that is going 100km/h?? It will take the path of least resistance! ie. out your front window
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car is going 100km/h, your body is going 100km/h
car stops (accident) from 100 -> almost 0 in less then a few seconds
Now what happens to your body that is going 100km/h?? It will take the path of least resistance! ie. out your front window
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10-17-2005, 06:27 PM
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Most I've packed into my car was 4 people, 2 full sized luggage, those 24" sized, 4 backpacks, and 3 carry on sized luggage. And everyone fits comfortably too.
10-17-2005, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Zatem
This might come as shocking news to some people, but it is quite common in the United States and elsewhere around the world for Police Officers to patrol on duty without wearing seat belts themselves! I see it all the time. They do it in broad daylight, totally exposed for everyone to see them doing it, even when they are out on the highways. And they make absolutely no excuses for setting such an example. (What is more amazing is that these very same officers have the authority to write tickets against other motorists who aren't wearing seat belts.)
So there are thousands of cops out there who are perfectly ok with cruising around on the highways without any seat belts, yet I present a scenario where I had passengers in my car who may not have been wearing a seat belt on unspecified roads and this forum gets freaked.
...even to the point of wishing death upon me.
I'm certain that we can be more positive in our crossflow of information on here.
So there are thousands of cops out there who are perfectly ok with cruising around on the highways without any seat belts, yet I present a scenario where I had passengers in my car who may not have been wearing a seat belt on unspecified roads and this forum gets freaked.
...even to the point of wishing death upon me.
I'm certain that we can be more positive in our crossflow of information on here.
10-18-2005, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by beachdog
The warning against putting 2 people into 1 seatbelt is there to protect you.
As a former first responser I can tell you that I have seen severe injuries and death to the person on top in the double belting scenario. Since the lap sitter is typically a child or light weight person and the person on bottom is a heavier adult, the seat belt at best crushes the person on top. You don't want to know what happens at worst.
As a former first responser I can tell you that I have seen severe injuries and death to the person on top in the double belting scenario. Since the lap sitter is typically a child or light weight person and the person on bottom is a heavier adult, the seat belt at best crushes the person on top. You don't want to know what happens at worst.
"...I hope that everyone is aware that it is far worse to have a seatbelt around BOTH people when one is sitting on the other's lap. If flung forward in a crash, the weight of the person behind (underneath) will crush the forward person (on top) as they are both pressed into the belt. It is much safer to belt only the bottom person and have them hold the person on top."
Now sitting side-by-side is a completely different situation than on-the-lap. I'm certain that a decelerating impact will not have the same guillotine-belt effect of one person's weight crushing the other as a belt strapped around an on-the-lap passenger.
I expect that lateral impacts have the worse effect on two people sitting side-by-side because that would force their bodies to slam into each other. Here I am not so sure that the two are any worse off by having the belt around them both versus around just one of them. Now both people belted sitting side-by-side in a purely decelerating impact, I figure that they would gain a decent amount of protection from the seat belt.
Crashes can sure get gruesome. And you can certainly expect the mess to be uglier if extra passengers have been squeezed in. But let's be sure to keep risks in perspective. MrJynx voices the hard line:
Originally Posted by MrJynx
My car doesn't move unless everyone wears seat belts. I have no idea why anyone would even take a chance not wearing a seatbelt.
1) a Miata,
2) a motorcycle,
3) a Ford Explorer,
4) an RX-8 with no seat belts.
What would you choose? I actually lean toward the no-belt 8. It gives me plenty of controlability to minimize the effects of the crash pre-impact. I'm surrounded by plenty of air bags for when that impact does come. Yes, having no seat belt would suck, but I've got serious reservations about the other three choices:
I pass on the Miata because I don't want to do Def Leppard precussion. Seat belts can only do so much for you. I pass on the motorcycle because if I do die, I would prefer an open casket option. I pass on the Ford Exploder for similar reasons. Those types of vehicles are dying to roll over and play dead.
That's my perspective on it. There are lots of variables that would skew that choice in one direction or another. But the bottom line is that it is clear to me that there are greater risks out there than my rare choice to have a rear seat passenger in my 8 not wearing their belt.
10-18-2005, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Zatem
Crashes can sure get gruesome. And you can certainly expect the mess to be uglier if extra passengers have been squeezed in. But let's be sure to keep risks in perspective. MrJynx voices the hard line:
I only voice "the hard line" because when I was very young, friends of my parents died in a survivable car accident because of no seatbelts. All of the occupants were ejected from the vehicle and the rest i'll leave to imagination..
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