^ +1 its going to happen in the future. Time will tell

 

You are probably right, but unfortunately that means cars are becoming more and more no-brainers -which means [in my opinion] less skill to drive swiftly. Every thing will be fine... until the computer goes blue-screen or the idiot behind the wheel exceeds the the new, higher limits of the car. At that point, unfortunately, the low-tech tree trunks and lamp poles remain firmly the same.

-1.3L

 

yeah obviously they're becoming easier to drive, because they're taking out a lot of human error from the equation. i hate it just as much as the next guy... but it's reality of the situation. people want things that are more efficient, and we have the technology to supply that need. but there will always be that small percentage of old school sports car fanatics that will never give up the outdated MT

 

Exactly, I'm sure you will be able to find a "nice " mustang with a MT. Good luck finding an Import sports car with one in 5 years...

 

its sad that the world is going that direction ... but it is

 

Automatics are not the enemy - torque converters are the enemy. I would definitely rock a dual-clutch trans. It irks me that people equate paddle shifters to any kind of transmission improvement. Your lancer ralliart doesn't have the same trans as a ferrari. I don't care if they give you *** shifters. It's the same "manumatic/sportronic/tiptronic" placebo shift trigger they've been putting on slush boxes for 15 years. It's just relocated to the wheel so you can at least keep one hand on the wheel while over heating your trans and texting. There's a lot of flavors in the auto to manual rainbow. TC/Planetary, SC/Automated, DC/Automated, manual. I don't know how many TC trans's don't use a planetary.

In bracket racing, autos are prime.

 

I've always thought Lancer Ralliart offers dual clutch transmission as an option, same with Volkswagen GTi.

Not all dual clutch systems are as complicated and precise as the ones on Ferraris.

 

Oh yeah, I'm forgetting that they actually put parts in that car now. I was refering to when it was basically just an appearance package pre-2009. Mia culpa.

 

It's really not the manual transmission that's the issue; it's the disconnect of the driver from the road. Technology is great, until the user [drivers] quit thinking.

-1.3L

 

 

Flame on, I don't give a ****.

-1.3L

 

I've driven both. The manual is alot more enjoyable because you can go higher in the rpm range, and you can launch where you want to. That makes a difference to me.

 

Why did the OP start this thread? As if there isn't enough on this forum. wtf seroiusly...

 

Agreed.

There was a thread here about someone (I believe an off duty cop, if I'm not mistaken) who's accelerator got stuck, who's family called 911, who was able to control his rapidly accelerating car until he hit something and they died, yet nobody there thought to push to Neutral.

When stuff starts working by itself, people forget how things technically work, and this poses huge problems when things go wrong.

As far as the topic goes, Drive whatever you want, just stay outta my way when you do so.

 

This thread was created in 2008...

 

I'll start off by stating I only read...ahhh...about the first 5 post of the thread...and i'll end it by saying this...you're a retard to drive an auto 8.

 

You are a retard for not reading it all. I traded in my Auto for a stick R3. I re posted on my original thread rather than starting a new one.

 

I did the samething as you 4 and a half years ago after getting bored to tears of my automatic 8. I had only owned it for 2 years and put 30k miles on it before calling it quits and swapping it for a manual 8. Never regretted the decision, and I still love and have fun driving this car even to this day.

The only disappointing part in your case is you ended up with that new exterior...which I can't stand the sight of...but hey, at least you also acquired a better suspension and more aggressive gearing.

You won't be the last 8 owner to swap from auto to stick, but you definitely made the right decision. You mentioned this is your first manual car...well an 8 isn't really the type of car I'd want to start off with driving manual on since you have to rev this a bit more than your typical car, which is something that will likely increase your learning curve and cause you to wear out your clutch faster. But once you get it down you'll have a blast.

 

Only AT I could be ok driving is the GTI dual clutch auto since it is a second faster 0-60 plus its a badass AT

 

Or simply turn off the ignition.

Yeah, I know the power steering will quit and so will the power brakes. But, the vehicle is still steerable and still has some braking power - if you know what to expect and how to respond. Unfortunately, drivers are not required to demonstrate that they can respond to most vehicle malfunctions.

-1.3L

 

Ever tried to steer without power steering? It's extremely limited and takes every ounce of strength you have.

 

My first car used to stall every once in a while and trying to steer it without the power steering was a he-man effort. The 8 and my ford probe aren't that rough if they are moving.

 

This thread should die.

 

3. Some of us have gf's, wives, friends that will be driving the 8 (especially when I am drunk) and most of which do not know how to drive a manual.


Just teach them, it takes a day, 2 at most to teach. Even some of the stupidest people will learn..eventually.