vermilion

What is it that gets some of you so damned wound up when a kid's dad buys him a car? He's posted respectfully and is interested in learning something, and that's more than can be said for a number of posters who did buy their own ride.

Xantium

Just explain to him that the manual rx8 is a much better deal and has WAY better resale (still not saying much). Who the hell buys a used auto rx8? The manual rx8 is the exact same price as the auto rx8 but includes the automatics $3,000 sport package for free.

NoTears316

I dont mind people getting cars as gifts, provided that they appreciate it. This guy actually had the audacity to complain that the car that was being bought for him wasn't the perfect little car he wanted. As far as him "trying to learn something"... yeah, he wants us to tell him how he can convince his father that the car he wants to buy him isn't good enough for him!

Xantium

Eh, get used to it - lol It's the same thing on every car forum. Lots of people just jealous that they didn't get the silver spoon as a kid and they feel a bit cheated.

gotdilbert

I wasn't saying it wasn't perfect. The manual is CHEAPER than the auto.

BlueSky

Manual takes infinitely more concentration than driving auto. I've done more stupid things in my '99 Altima automatic than I have in my RX-8 6-speed. In fact when I'm in the RX-8 I'm a totally different driver; I'm focused, aware, courteous, I don't tailgate, and I don't drive like a maniac. I think it's all because in a automatic I get bored out of my mind and have to amuse myself by being an idiot. In the manual I get enough satisfaction from just shifting that I'm never bored.

NgoRX8

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nope. not with our cars

BunnyGirl

Buy your own car and stop whining like an ungrateful brat!!!

BlueEyes

That's funny coming from the girl who probably whines the most of anyone on this forum about a myriad of stupid topics.

BunnyGirl

At least I'm not whining because I'm not being bought the "appropriate" vehicle when I should darned well be buying it myself.

If someone pitches a fit because a gift is not exactly what they wanted then they certainly don't deserve to be receiving it, especially when it is a very expensive gift!

Phantom 4 Door

just because your dad gets you a car does not mean you should just be happy with it. Manual versus automatic is a big deal, and its close in price. Personally, if my dad is spending 25000 $$ on something then I would want the right thing, not something in second place. I know some of you are getting upset that parents buy cars, but hey, maybe he earned it. And wouldn't you want to give everything to your kids if you had the opportunity? Cut him some slack. His dad is getting him a car, and he wants to get the right one. An auto rx8? thats a waste of that much money and he is asking how he can prevent that

NoTears316

I've had it with you...

dmc27

Precisely what I thought.

Gotdilbert - I think you've got the info you need in the responses. Also, a quick intro to the varied personalities here on the 8 club. yay. Good luck.

Shinka-Dono

Agreed, but Dad still holds all of the cards. You must have an understanding of his reasons then provide a persuasive argument for a MT. Note that the ATs tend to have more problems than the MTs because you can’t as readily take it to the redline to keep the engine free of carbon. Hm. Ok, “taking it to the redline” may not be the thing to say. Mention that the AT’s engine is not as good and has less horsepower. Hm. Never mind. You’re screwed. Have fun with the AT!

MazdaTed

If you offer to pay for some of the cars monthly payment do you think He would budge?

torbee

Wow. Were you beaten with wire hangers as a child or just suffer from abandonment issues

So the kid's folks can afford to get him a nice car. BFD!

Save the class warfare for the streets Karl Marx.

dmc27

^^^ Excellent point. The problem your dad has probably has nothing to do w/auto vs. MT. More of a power & driving skill/experience/maturity issue. Talk to him, and find out if this is the case. If it comes down to it, you're probably better off w/a less powerful car that might be more fun. The 8 in AT is rough. If you're willing to hear his concerns, and show the maturity to say "let's look at other things, b/c this car in AT is not a good choice for these reasons . . ." you'll probably find him much more receptive.

Either way, don't prove the cranky & envious users here right by throwing a tantrum at Dad. More importantly, don't prove them right by getting the 8 and wrecking it.

BlueEyes

He's hardly pitching a fit. Nor is he whinning. He and has father have, presumably, picked the Rx8 as the car he's going to get. He would like in it manual, his father doesn't know if that's a good idea. Seems to me he's being pretty adult like by seeking out resources with which he can talk to his father about the pros and cons of owning a manual over an automatic.

Get off the envy train. Some people are rich, you're not. TS.

NoTears316

Hey BlueEyes, maybe you can help me out in the lounge... I'm trying to get a red 911 and my unreasonable father wants to buy me a black one! It's complete BS! Can you give me some good advice on how I can get a red one? You're doing such a good job helping this schmuck out, maybe you can help me as well.

https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/so-95053/

swoope

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PIE = CROSSFIRE!!!

beers

lshu

If your dad will not give you a manual rx-8, why not suggest a compromise and get a manual MX-5 Miata? It would be tons more fun than an auto RX-8, along with a cheaper price, great gearbox, and greater perception of safety from your father's point of view. Since you just broke up with your gf, the two seats and convertible top will suit you just swell.

MazdaTed

Most people think that miatas are nothing more than rolling speedbumps. Since the father seems to be concerned about safety I doubt thats an option.

gotdilbert

Thanks notears, my dad told me not to get a red, as it would attract the attention of the police, and the black one wouldn't stand out as much. But since I wanted the black anyways thats not an issue.

The price isn't the issue, I have to prove to him that manual is not distracting and I can be just as safe if not safer with it. I don't want the slushbox, especially since he was FINE with an RX8, just auto, so I don't see why its not okay to get the manual instead.

Also, my dad said he doesn't want me having ANY manuals, also, he is against cars that will classify as sports cars, hence the RX8 and its four doors.

Also, thank you all for your mature responses (most of you anyways), I am still trying to convince him and am pointing out many well thought out ideas that you guys have given me, for example:

BlueEyes, for his support and pointing out that I will be more focused. (Im a guy and dont' put on makeup though :P)

Gomoses, for pointing out his own experience.

shakRpahX8, for rewording what it is that im trying to explain to my dad.

AdRoCK3217, for pointing out the mechanical issues with the auto.

MazdaTed, for his humorous and interesting comment about the drink.

WhiteDealershipRice, for a humorous and clearing up a wide assortment of issues.

Stavesacre21, for practical knowledge and more mechanical issues.

Phantom 4 Door, for alot of useful contributions. And wording very nicely what im feeling (about how if im getting the auto I might as well get the manual)

Razz1, for a useful fact. But where I live we do not have traffic conditions like that.

Xantium, for the financial views.

BlueSky, for something that I showed my dad as evidence.

dmc27, for a well worded and mature response.

Shinka-Dono, for presenting things from my dads point of view.

MazdaTed

WOW! That is the first time I have EVER seen anybody say thank you on a forum. Expecially when they were called a spoiled brat and stuff. Thats amazing!

torbee

Hrmph.

No thank you to torbee for coming to your defense with a witty wire hanger beating reference.

I'm switching sides now. Suck it up and drive the auto you spoiled brat!