Rhythmic

iirc, the Renesis has been tested to 13k rpm., but other components wouldn't be able to handle that. 06rx8 is smoking crack.

dbb

Can / Has the S2000 done this?

http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...icle&sid=22231

If the S2000 revs high for a long sustained period, why haven't Honda gone out and broken these 40 world records? It would be a great marketing coup for them ...

Jacques79

Yep.

There's a difference between a car that's fast in a straight line and a car that's pleasure to drive.

The RX-8 talks to you when you drive it.

It's going to be my next car for sure after my lease is up with my S2000.

(Or I'll get a 2004 RX-8 and buy a high kms 2000 S2000)

Raptor75

You seem very misinformed as to the ability of the rotary engine. Actually while the S2000 engine hp will weaken with age the rotary will get stronger up till the end.

9291150

Jacques, thats strange, my Honda Fireblade engine revs to over 12000rpm, and I never had to add oil. And the MPG on your S2 is worse??

Otherwise, I agree, the renesis is made to rev.

Go Habs go!

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

Thats probably one of the reasons why I see all these *MY S2K is dead* thread on S2K forums.

I have no idea how you define *beat the hell out of them*, but some people define it as *driving around 70mph*.

I can say the same to any other cars. What makes you think Hondas are so superior than the others ?

This is one of the biggest Bullshit for the day.

Rotary was known for its high revving power plus it has been designed from the ground up to be a high Revving engine.

you have no idea about what you're talking about.

Could you do me a favor and change your Username to something else please ?

elf

LOL! Thanx, nycgps, I needed that ...

06RX8, you really need to be redlining your 8 once in awhile --- it's healthy for the rotary. I drive ~800 to 900 miles every week in my 8, and redline it AT LEAST once a day. I've already put 20k miles on it since I bought it new in July and the engine seems to be getting stronger ... and it uses 1 quart of oil every 5000 miles.

Freddie

City traffic: Up to 25 MPH or so, no reason to shift out of 1st gear, while up to 40 MPH or so, no reason to go past 2nd. Enjoy the admiring glances you'll get moving slowly along with the engine "loafing" at 5,000 RPM and you'll be saving your clutch and brakes even if burning a bit more gas. One caution: Lifting off the gas in 1st gear in this situation you will slow as quickly as if you had braked fairly hard, but no brake lights, so if there is a cellphone-jabbering SUV driver right on your rear end you could get hit.

Back to the thread topic, I've had my Winning Blue '05 6MT since October 2005 with zero problems.

Phantom Menace

+1

If Mazda Rotary Engines are known for anything...its its ability to revving high and stay there...make its home all up in the upper power band. I think 06RX8's a TROLL. Trying to rile us up. Saying you cannot redline a Mazda rotoray engine is like saying Honda's power windows last forever!

I've owned many-a-hondas and I hate to break it to you but you are right, 06RX8. You can drive them hard and NOTHING HAPPENS...at all. You press the gas as hard as you want...nothing happens. You press the brake as hard as you want...nothing happens...you press the power window buttons down/up...nothing happens. You cruise around in it to pick up chicks...NOTHING HAPPENS.

06RX8 trade your 8 in for a S2k, you will be much happier--I know I'll be.

06RX8

I can assure you I am not a troll. I LOVE THIS CAR.... Can a person state what they think without being called a TROLL?? I am saying valid things and honestly I have been reving the car the way it needs to be reved and its getting quicker which is pretty cool. You guys get all defensive when someone states the truth. I said that the RX8 is a good car but it is slow and thats the truth. I am not making fun of the car in any way, I OWN ONE. Its fun as hell to drive but its jsut not that fast thats all.

So Phantom Menace, go put your helmet back on and come back after your done crying about my statements. The way I see it, ur a troll

dbb

06RX8, answer my question, do you think an S2K can do this?

http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...icle&sid=22231

dillsrotary

i don't think you have an rx8, or if you do you really regret buying it. after reading all of your 46 posts just about everyone states....

you're a troll, we get it, you don't like your rx8, so f*ckin sell it and stop spreading complete ignorance in every thread you post in........





oh.... and happy holidays

Phantom Menace

First of all, you ARE a troll. Everyone agrees with me. Dillsrotary found irrefutable evidence of your TROLLness. I agree with him, either you don't own one or you have serious buyer's remorse and have a case of S2k envy. Just buy the Honda.

Second of all, I'm not crying about your statements--I'm laughing. Laughing because you have no IDEA what it is you (supposedly) bought. You complain about power deficiency. Do you know how to downshift? The RX8 was never marketed as a torque beast. So what you are doing is finding the things that are obvious and highlighting them with complaints as if you were lied to. Yes, Apex seals may rupture...but so do head gaskets and timing belts! The only vulnerable spot on the whole engine you pick on as if it were not supposed to have any flaws. The engine was never marketed as flawless, just more reliable than conventional engines. I'd risk ruptured apex seals over any of the numerous possible issues of a conventional piston engine anyday.

We are not defensive. We are becomming intolerant of your ignorace! Statements like yours only makes everyone who reads them dumber.

06RX8

Anything is possible. I dont have any facts so i cant say that an S2k cant do this. I can however agree with you that the RX8 renesis motor is an awsome one!! I am not saying that this car is crap, cant you guys realize this. I just said that it is slow and thats a fact. So this motor can be reved high and it can be reliable but the S2k Motor is better because it makes more power/torque and makes the S2k go from 0-60 in 5.5seconds. So if the Renesis motor is so good, then why is the RX8 noticably slower then the S2k, Rsx s, WRX and other cars in the same price range? And yes they are in the same price range, prob even cheaper with only the S2k being a little more expenseive but onlly by a few grand. We are not talking apples and oranges here.

06RX8

FAce it, the RX8 is a slow car...i want you to admit it and stop making up excuses of how wonderful it is. It is by no means a bad car, but thr truth is ther truth.

How can you justify the motor eating SO MUCH GAS and oil and not being faster then cars within this price range. What makes this reving motor so good. I undrstand you can rev and rev and rev but it makes no power, so who cares. Give me a good explanation

06RX8

If it wasnt the hangling, then i would sell the car for sure...but the handling is what keeps me attached to it!!

06RX8

Nice job with the thread EDIT...Listen, you know that I am right.

The good:
Unreal handling
SMOOTH REVS
AWSOME shifting and sounds amazing

The Bad:
SLOW
Eats so much gas
Revs high but who cares if there is no power output at all?

Can you justify why this engine is so good then? Yes its more reliable then a piston engine...but who cares, I would never keep this car past the warrenty anyway so that means nothing to me. The way i see it is if an engine eats a lot of gas/oiol then it better throw ur *** back or be smooth and then take off like VTEC does. This car just does not do that.

dbb

So go get an STI or something. They are faster and handle better in many (but not all) situations.

Of course you have to put up with the steering that runs you long into corners, the sedan like driving position, the relatively cheap and tacky interior, the lack of driver feedback and balance, and the dodgy daily driver ability.

But at least you will be able to beat everyone off the lights, and go home at night knowing you are champion because of it.

06RX8

The RX8 is a sports car right? So how can you sit here and say that you dont want your sports car to be faster then most cars on the road. I am talking about a regualr Lexus GS400 or a BMW 330...thes are not sports cars but will smoke the RX8. Stop being a fuckn idiot and realize that i am right.

Rootski

iTrader: (1)

If gas consumption is a measure of a cars speed, then there must be a lot of pissed off SUV drivers out there. The reason your rotary never makes any power is you've never revved it high enough to reach the powerband. By the way, apex seal failure is usually caused by predetonation-- "engine knock"-- not high-revving. Redlining the Renesis is actually good for it.

06RX8

Whatever, I give up with you guys because you will never agree with me even though you know its true. The RX8 is slow even in its powerband.

Can you say that the RX8 first gear is a fast gear?

By the time you hit that redline the other cars are gone and i am not refering to racing, i am saying if ineed instant power to get to another lane, i dont have it in this car.

06RX8

Corvette Z06?? Mustang Cobra? yes, they burn gas and also fly while doing it. So dont give me that crap

Phantom Menace

1) Thanks. I use the edit function often to make sure what I am trying to say is clear. That's what its there for.

2) You are over exaggerating oil/gas consumption. I've had mine for about 2k mi and I've yet to put in a drop of oil though I check it every fill up. Gas is not as bad either. If you are used to Civics, then okay. But 20-21 mpg is not that bad. Besides it has a 16.9g tank! So a full tank should last. Also, the window sticker clearly marks its consumption. If this is too liberal for you, you should not have bought the car! In buying it you should've justified this consumption to yourself, no? For me, I don't care how much it drinks--that was not a factor in my decision to get a new car. If you want stinginess, get an Insight or Prius.

3) If you wanted a drag car, you should've went V8. Me, I don't launch at lights anymore. I like the linear power of the 8 that's why I bought it. Why did YOU buy it? You act like someone told you it was to be the end-all-be-all of race cars and found out otherwise? The car is a tool, you buy the right tool for the right job. You wanna be "Fast and Furious" then look elsewhere. You want balance and good performance--get the 8.

4) The 8 is far from slow! 5.9 in the quarter is not shabby. You just want to be the "big dick" at every redlight, no? Well then its the wrong car for you. Most people with your issues just plain bought the wrong car.

* In sum, your a Troll and you wife prolly left you on Christmas Eve for a guy with an RX8. So go drown your sorrows elsewhere. Merry Christmas, Troll.

06RX8

My situation was very messed up. I traded in an 03 rsx type s to get a mazdaspeed 6 because i wanted AWD Turbo and could not afford the Sti or and EVo as i only wanted a new car. I got the MS6 and it turned out to be a piece of crap with how it lost power due to powerloss issues. I had to stick with mazda because I got an 06 rx8 new for 22k and they gave me 21k for my trade in. My friend hooked me up in this process so to get an RX8 was a no brainer. Honestly no, i did not research the car but I knew it reved high and I test drove an 04 with 23k on it and it felt very good. My 06 does not feel like that, maybe because it is still failry new with only 600 miles on it ( i am not keeping it more then a year so i dont car about breaking it in fully). So with that sad, yea i am a little upset that it is not a faster car for what it is. The S2k is not practicle and therefor i dont want one, but for a car that revs just as high, itgs better built and a lot faster wouldnt you agrre?

Phantom Menace

I'd agree that you were duped into a MS6 and panicked into another car. You should really do some research before a purchase. A lease is another issue. You can lease a car you don't like and hop into a new one after a short commitment. Maybe you should look into leases before another purchase. That way, you can find what's right for you.

Me, I researched the 8 for about 6 months. I had a '91 300zx TT just before buying my 8 and it was time for something different. I also ride motorcycles, so handling is priority one for me. If I want crap-your-pants speed, I ride my bike. When it rains, I drive. Crazy speed is not a priority for me and neither is being the fastest for the "price."

Side note: I got my 06 MTGT for $23K after rebates and trade-in, so there is literally NO competition for my 8 at this price and time. With a modest down payment, my monthlys are less than those for my motorcycle!

If you are just looking to quicken the car there are other alternatives, but they are pricey. In all honesty man, if you are not happy with the car--trade it in and soon. It'll eat you up inside. Just some advice kay, you will NEVER be the fastest in your class (price, body style, or otherwise). So learn to find what it is you are wanting and learn to research properly to find it. This forum is for enthusiasts. IF you bash OUR car, of course we'll take it personally as we've already considered most of your complaints and justified them to ourselves. We don't need to justify them to others. We are not oblivious to the 159ft/lbs of torque nor are we to the fact that our engine likes to have a little gas with its oil. We either ALREADY knew it or learned to live with it, and its not that bad if you love the car. Most of the precautions and quirks are overstated because the engine is unconventional.

If you already feel disappointed with the car, sure it's "quirks" will drive a stake through you heart. Thats why my advice is to take advantage of the Christmas sales and get yourself a 350z or G35 or Mustang GT or Dodge Charger or anything else that will make you lose bowel movements with acceleration. Good luck and may you find the "right" car for you. I know I have.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.