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Old May 29, 2013 | 03:04 PM
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Little reasearch and a little math later and I have some results

S1 Dif S1 trans; 16.6944, 10.07436, 7.326, 5.27028, 4.44, 3.74292
S1 Diff S2 Trans; 16.9386, 10.7802. 7.2816, 5.22588, 4.44, 3.69408
S2 Diff S1 Trans; 17.9352, 10.82313, 7.8705, 5.66199, 4.77, 4.02111
S2 Diff S2 Trans; 18.19755, 10.7802, 7.8228, 5.61429, 4.77, 3.96864

Top Speed@8500
S1 Dif S1 trans; 39, 65, 89, 124, 147, 175
S1 Diff S2 Trans; 39, 61, 90, 125, 147, 177
S2 Diff S1 Trans; 37, 61, 83, 116, 137, 163
S2 Diff S2 Trans; 36, 61, 84 ,117, 137, 165

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S2 setup will provide better acceleration with a lower top speed.
S1 Setup will achieve slower acceleration but a higher top speed

It seems the best setup would actually be a S1 Trans and S2 diff, but considering the S1 trans is garbage compared to the S2 It seems that and S1 diff w/ a S2 Trans is the best all around setup, wish first gear had a little more output torque though.

Side note, if you are looking to enter the 200MPH club it is theoretically possible with a 3.9 diff(Mazmart sells) using either an S1 or S2 trans.
just because your transmission is geared to get to 200mph doesnt mean your engine can ever take it there. to hit 200mph your guna need at least ~500whp and i dont think the stock tranny's can handle that power
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Old May 29, 2013 | 06:08 PM
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I know, hence the theoretical insertion
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Old May 30, 2013 | 04:40 PM
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I noticed today that the fans were still running after I parked my car (series 2) and turned it off (normal coolant temps, max of 206F). I know that this is normal, and that the fans are suppose to come on to the medium setting when the engine bay temperature is above 220F. Would opening the hood to allow the engine to cool faster be a good idea (use less batter power because the cooling takes less time), make no difference, or be a bad idea (temperature of engine compartment drops, while the temperature of the engine/coolant inside it stays high)?
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Old May 30, 2013 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by poacherinthezoo
I noticed today that the fans were still running after I parked my car (series 2) and turned it off (normal coolant temps, max of 206F). I know that this is normal, and that the fans are suppose to come on to the medium setting when the engine bay temperature is above 220F. Would opening the hood to allow the engine to cool faster be a good idea (use less batter power because the cooling takes less time), make no difference, or be a bad idea (temperature of engine compartment drops, while the temperature of the engine/coolant inside it stays high)?
im pretty sure letting the hood up is good in my mind but im no expert but i had a quetion does ur rx8 shift weird on 3rd like when driving at 7 rpms and i try shifting to t hird and it makes a grinding sound ... im new too manual first car manual but just wanted to ask make sure it wasnt the clutch and the car has 118k so im hoping it dosent

hope to hear from someone soon thanks
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Old May 30, 2013 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by poacherinthezoo
I noticed today that the fans were still running after I parked my car (series 2) and turned it off (normal coolant temps, max of 206F). I know that this is normal, and that the fans are suppose to come on to the medium setting when the engine bay temperature is above 220F. Would opening the hood to allow the engine to cool faster be a good idea (use less batter power because the cooling takes less time), make no difference, or be a bad idea (temperature of engine compartment drops, while the temperature of the engine/coolant inside it stays high)?
if your asking if it would be a good idea to drive around with the hood open then no. you could but why risk it?

if your talking about after parking then yes (unless youre in a non reputable neiborhood)

i pop the hood while cruising at 30-40mph about a mile away from my destination on really hot days and leave it cracked untill i get back onto the road

everytime i get home i open the hood all the way

my fans ussually shut of 10 sec after i pop the hood whereas if i hadnt they would runn for a few min.

none of that is neccasary tho. if your cooling system is working then you need not worry
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Old May 31, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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Anyone know the size of the coolant hoses used for the TB, inner diameter?

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Old May 31, 2013 | 12:26 PM
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I got a question:

What is the technical term for when you are driving through a long bend that is bearing left... think long offramp. Going about 60mph. Small bump in the road. Car suddenly feels light and feels like it is gliding or hops right. Very very short. No dramatic correction needed ... no loss of control ... easily 'corrected' by letting off the throttle. Wheels arent juddering, or skidding, or anything...Almost feels like the car literally slid a tad on ice.

Pretty sure that isn't bumpsteer as A. the RX8's suspension doesn't really exhibit bump steer issues, and B. my steering wheel doesn't swing in any specific direction.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
I got a question:

What is the technical term for when you are driving through a long bend that is bearing left... think long offramp. Going about 60mph. Small bump in the road. Car suddenly feels light and feels like it is gliding or hops right. Very very short. No dramatic correction needed ... no loss of control ... easily 'corrected' by letting off the throttle. Wheels arent juddering, or skidding, or anything...Almost feels like the car literally slid a tad on ice.

Pretty sure that isn't bumpsteer as A. the RX8's suspension doesn't really exhibit bump steer issues, and B. my steering wheel doesn't swing in any specific direction.
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Cornering

In the end, road racing comes down to cornering. Assuming equal cars, the driver able to sustain the highest speeds through the turns will have the lowest lap times.
To get terminology cleared up first, every corner is made of three parts. We'll call them the entry, the apex, and the exit. The entry is where turning begins. The apex is the point where the car reaches the furthest point on the inside of the turn. The exit is where the car is driving straight again.
The objective in driving through a corner, or a series of corners, is to have the fastest possible speed at the exit of corner, or the last corner of a series. It is not necessarily to have the fastest speed going into the corner, nor even the fastest speed in the middle of the corner. The last corner exit before a straight is the most important segment. The speed of the exit determines the speed during and at the end of the straight. If you can increase the average speed of an entire straight, that will have greater impact that a faster average over the shorter distance of the entry to the turn, or through the turn itself.
The path, or "line" you drive through a corner will determine the exit speed. In general, the fastest line through a corner is the one that allows the greatest radius, or straightest path. As a car can go faster around a large corner than it can around a tight corner, the shortest path around a corner is rarely the fastest.
To illustrate these concepts so far, the classic teaching aid is to look at a 90-degree bend. In the illustration below, the dotted line follows the path of the road. The solid line indicates a path which maximizes the radius of the turn, or attempts to make the turn as straight as possible. As you can see there is significant difference in the tightness of the turn which follows the even the outside of the road compared to one the which utilizes the whole width of the road surface.
As mentioned, the objective in any corner is to have the highest exit speed. In addition to increasing the corner radius, this also involves taking a line which allows the earliest possible point of getting back into the throttle. To do this, the car must be straightening back out on the corner exit path as early as possible. We can modify the above corner line further to allow this.
The illustration below now shows the previously noted large radius path in the dotted line. The solid colored line shows a path known as the "late apex." This path moves forward the point at which the car reaches the corner apex. The late apex straightens out the exit path of the car, and therefore allows the driver to apply the accelerator earlier. This increases the exit speed, and in effect lengthens the straight which allows for higher speed at the end of the straight.
While the geometric racing line is faster than the natural line of the road, there is still a faster technique for most corners. The technique is called using a late apex. By delaying the turn-in point, and beginning the turn with a slightly sharper bend, the car can be aimed to apex later than the geometric apex point. This straightens out the second part of the turn, allowing the driver to apply the accelerator earlier. The car will have to slow down a little more at the turn in phase, but exit speed will be higher. That exit speed gives the driver that much more speed on the straight which will result in lower lap times overall.
This approach works for corners which require hard accelerating cornering out of them, which will be most of them. However, there are many types of corners, and combinations of corners which require some analysis to understand the best approach. Along the right are small figures of corner examples. Click each one to for a larger view and some instructional comments.
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This may help?.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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absolutely nothing to do with what i asked.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
I got a question:

What is the technical term for when you are driving through a long bend that is bearing left... think long offramp. Going about 60mph. Small bump in the road. Car suddenly feels light and feels like it is gliding or hops right. Very very short. No dramatic correction needed ... no loss of control ... easily 'corrected' by letting off the throttle. Wheels arent juddering, or skidding, or anything...Almost feels like the car literally slid a tad on ice.

Pretty sure that isn't bumpsteer as A. the RX8's suspension doesn't really exhibit bump steer issues, and B. my steering wheel doesn't swing in any specific direction.
Yes, that's not bump steer. I assume when you mean glides or hops right, you are talking like a few inches?

I think that is simply traction loss. The stiffer your suspension, the easier it happens on any sudden road surface elevation changes. Same problem when close to ABS threshhold when braking and there is a bump or fold in the road/

I've never seen a specific term for it.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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ok cool, wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something obvious as far as a term goes lol. Been seeing people refer to it as "squirreling" , "floating" , "jutting", etc.

But Yea i think it is not only caused by a stiff suspension, but also been reading that toe angles (I toe in the rear) can cause it too.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 03:26 PM
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Definitely. When my left rear toe was knocked out by a pot hole hit, it became pretty scary severe. Zero toe is probably the calmest overall, though i would expect that exact toe can play with the actual bump/fold details, if it hits left vs right differently, etc...
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Old May 31, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Carbon8
Anyone know the size of the coolant hoses used for the TB, inner diameter?
Anyone?

Thanks
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Old May 31, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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Let me find my caliper / measuring tape. I've got the hose in the garage
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Old May 31, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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I think its 1/2" but im not sure.
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Old May 31, 2013 | 09:59 PM
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Anyone know the weight reduction from a nav delete?
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Old May 31, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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Anyone know the weight reduction from a nav delete?
search for the weight reduction thread its in there
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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 01:39 AM
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how do i tell what package i have on my rx8
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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 01:44 AM
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how do i tell what package i have on my rx8
search in here for it

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...ly-has-232611/
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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 01:54 AM
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thank u. helped a lot
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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
I got a question:

What is the technical term for when you are driving through a long bend that is bearing left... think long offramp. Going about 60mph. Small bump in the road. Car suddenly feels light and feels like it is gliding or hops right. Very very short. No dramatic correction needed ... no loss of control ... easily 'corrected' by letting off the throttle. Wheels arent juddering, or skidding, or anything...Almost feels like the car literally slid a tad on ice.

Pretty sure that isn't bumpsteer as A. the RX8's suspension doesn't really exhibit bump steer issues, and B. my steering wheel doesn't swing in any specific direction.

Sounds like a really quick hydroplane.....without water. ....
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Old Jun 1, 2013 | 09:50 AM
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Doing a FAL installation tomorrow, just wanna clarify before I get her in the shop on what wire is ground and what is hot on the stock wiring? I'm just hooking it up right to the original harness.
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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I lowered my rx8 and inch and a half and was wandering what offset i could use on a set of 18 x 8.5 in the front and 18 x 9.5 in the rear? i don't want to roll the fenders or do any body work, i just want to know the best offset to go to allow me to do this/look the best.
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RonniEdwards
Sounds like a really quick hydroplane.....without water. ....
Haha yea exactly ... like a ... dehydroplane? Running with it.
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Old Jun 2, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
Haha yea exactly ... like a ... dehydroplane? Running with it.
Hydro equates to water, yes?
I would suggest terraplane.
"Terraplane Blues", old blues song covered by Foghat in the '70s.
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