mmats69

the brochure never lies

Palkalocka

Thanks for the suggestion but I have done this mod and still get the MIAC. It does it on both 87 and 91 so I just run 87. The sound itself doesnt really bother me as long as its not damaging anything.

1.3L

When I bought my first rotary powered car in 1985 (an '85 RX-7), the dealer told me not to baby it. He said the RX-7 was a sports car and that it was designed to be driven in a sporting fashion. I agree, and that car never gave me an ounce of trouble.

Fast forward to 2004 and the day I bought my new RX-8. The folks at the same Mazda dealership didn't know the difference between the 4-port and 6-port engine and gave no advice as to how the car could be (or shouldn't be) driven. Not really a problem because I already know...

-1.3L

Palkalocka

I pick up the car today, hopefully... they told me it would be done sameday when I dropped it off last thursday(and everyday since).
Thanks for all the info, Ill show him the "Buzz It" thing and see what his face looks like then. Then perhaps I'll try to explain that not all the valves open till 7250RPM but it will probably be a lost cause.

BTW: In case any of you from north central florida were wondering the dealership is Duval Mazda in Gainesville

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

Meh, I post on a lot of different forums, Rx8club is just 1 of them.

People might think I spend my whole day luring forums all over but in fact I spend about 1-2 hours (in total) a day on forums.

Muhahahaha ! Rev is bad, we should all keep our rev under 2.5K in all gears !!!!! BRAWwwwWWWWRRRRR !

Old Rotor

Thats why you don't want that MIAC sound to happen it will damage your engine. Are you sure its the sound you are hearing. It's a loud metal on metal sound not a rattle like on a piston engine.

Palkalocka

Im pretty sure its the marbles in a blender sound so commonly discussed. It sounds like it is coming from under the glovebox when revved up and fades out after I let of the gas. When I demonstrated it for the tech he arrogantly stated that "oh thats just leaves in the engine bay" and I firmly said "oh, its definitely not". I didnt really know what else to say at this point because it was obvious that the guy was a moron after he asked me why I would even rev it up that high.

I think maybe the throttle body bypass didnt do the trick because it is so hot where I live that it didnt make that much of a difference. I used the screw drop in technique btw.

Bastage

iTrader: (1)

I would look him in the eye and ask him why he thinks 7k rpm is bad for the engine, and then give him an amused smile and just remember what he said. Then post it on here so we can all laugh, and send the manager a link to this thread.

ChristInBen

I had that too at one of the dealers. I went to a dealership near my work (I usually never go to this dealership) since it was close cuz I needed to ask something, and I asked the service manager there if revving occasionally to beep or redline is good. He says this "In my 27 years at Mazda, I have never heard of that"....he thinks it's bad....so yeah can the dude with the brochure from Mazda scan it on here, so we can all print a copy and show these dealers what Mazda HQ is saying.

Startl_Respons

Why bother?

ChristInBen

For my peace of mind, knowing that there is documentation directly from Mazda HQ, in case any dealerships decide to hassle me about revving to high when trying to fix a warranty issue for example.

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

This *Rev it once a day to keep the carbon away* thing is more like a thing in the Rotary Community than official Mazda's words.

IF you understand how a rotary works (not just yeah its triangle thinggy spining around), then you'll know why this sucker has to be rev every once in a while to keep it working.

dmc27

I've got all that crap in my glove box. Send me a PM tomorrow morning to remind me and I'll see if that's in the bunch. If it is I'll scan & post if it's not already up.

But I will forget, especially if the thread isn't bumped.

RotaryP7

I actually traded pie for cake.
Never did see anything about cake but just came into my head.

Soapflake

Nevermind. The "buzz it" in the brochure was mentioned.

motorups

ok...post thread count #17 (page 1) has some graphics. now besides the fact that the images could be thought of as some sort of body parts or chambers for babies lets think of them instead as images of the rx8 engine...not that I easy to understand it it is a side view and if so from what side.

so question is if I do take the time to get to the 7250 rpm mark then just how does a VDI (variable dynamic effect INTAKE system) come into place so far s getting rid of carbon build up. Was assuming the 7250 mark meant that two other exhaust ports would be opening.

Last, since I have a 6 port (07) what does that really mean? I have three input and three output 'holes'....

yes, I know...typing the questions in that manner open up a whole another set of options for replies.

Palkalocka

Well firsts things first, I showed the tech the "buzz it" thing in the driver guide and after about a minute of looking it over being absolutly quiet he states that it does not say "a redline a day keeps the carbon away" and I kindly mention to him that it is just an expression and that it does say to push the car to higher rpms. He agrees and asks me if he can make a copy of it to show some other person. +1 for the club!

So after the pwnage he stops acting so arrogant and tells me that they did a throttle body cleaning and he has permission from mazda to order me a new engine if I say the car is still performing poorly in the next week. The way he said it he was almost hinting to me to complain so that I would get a new engine.

So now I am seriously considering getting a new engine because a couple of weeks ago I was driving and suddenly had huge loss off power to the point where the car would hardly move in first with full throttle and at 5000rpms up there was an extremly loud rattling sound. I managed to get the car home and after a few hours cranked it back up with no problems.

So what I think happened(though I'm no expert) is I have a slight loss of compression but not enough for them to replace the engine unless I complain more and mazda feels they have to. Any Ideas?

dmc27

Here's the scan of the "driver's guide" that came with the 8. It's one of those fold out brochures, so I'm just posting the one that has the 'buzz it', but I scanned the whole thing. All 4 images (front & back of the brochure) are on my photobucket site: http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r...a%20Documents/

They probably need to be downloaded from there and viewed on a local program to read them well. I'm not sure how photobucket handles larger images, so if they are too small to read even after downloading PM me with an email address and I'll send them as needed.

CyberPitz

That's definitely a big problem. I'd say your engine is having some problems that need addressed, and if th TB cleaning didn't help out, then go for it. If you REALLY want a new engine, though, take them up on the offer

DaBatMan

do you mean "Duval Mazda in Jacksonville"??? This is the dealership i purchased my machine from last year and also where i go for service. and if you meant Jacksonvile, please share the name of the service tech who gave you strange looks so i can stay away from him.

Palkalocka

Its the Duval Mazda in Gainesville. I have heard of the one in Jville but im not sure if they are related. Apparently they are working on(or completed idk) some sort of turbocharged mazdaspeed show car at the one in Jacksonville. Doesnt sound like the same sort of people that I am used to at my dealership.

dmc27

^ An 8, no less! There is a thread here - probably what you're talking about.

DaBatMan

gotcha. 8 at duval in j'ville however is not turbo but they do seem to treat you right there.