do mods really make the car more fun?
#26
Originally Posted by BasenjiGuy
I just replaced the total POS OE Bridgestones with Avon All-Season M550's...
I've got a MS Shift ****! Yay me! But hey, it's something I notice every day.
I agree that tires are probably the easiest, most noticable and safest "mod" to make. I can't wait to wear out the OEMs... or for winter to get here to get back on the Pirellis. It's a totally different driving experience with quality tires.
#28
Originally Posted by staticlag
Lol, Recall anyone?
The factory makes a car to sell.
Any fast car is going to have reliability issues. The general public doesn't want to worry about getting their car serviced regulary every 5K miles or most of them dont want to watch the oil level!
I thought all hobbies did that? and the value of your car is decreasing by the second. Personal enjoyment.
N E ways, prime example that modding is better: Corvette and camaro. Same engine. But the camaro had cheap parts in it so average people could afford it. The Corvette was modded with premium parts in all aspects.
That was of course until vette owners started complaining of this, and wanted more exclusivity.
Don't knock it until you've tried it.
The factory makes a car to sell.
Any fast car is going to have reliability issues. The general public doesn't want to worry about getting their car serviced regulary every 5K miles or most of them dont want to watch the oil level!
I thought all hobbies did that? and the value of your car is decreasing by the second. Personal enjoyment.
N E ways, prime example that modding is better: Corvette and camaro. Same engine. But the camaro had cheap parts in it so average people could afford it. The Corvette was modded with premium parts in all aspects.
That was of course until vette owners started complaining of this, and wanted more exclusivity.
Don't knock it until you've tried it.
#29
RPO LS2 LS2 LS7
Displacement (liters/cu.in) 6.0/364 6.0/364 7.0/427
Bore & Stroke (in.) 4.00 X 3.62 4.00 X 3.62 4.125 X 4.0
Bore & Stroke (mm) 101.6 X 92 101.6 X 92 104.8 X 101.6
Compression ratio 10.9:1 10.9:1 11.1:1
Block material aluminum aluminum aluminum
Cylinder head material aluminum aluminum aluminum
Valves per cylinder 2 2 2
Valvetrain pushrod with overhead valves pushrod with overhead valves pushrod with overhead valves
Induction system sequential EFI sequential EFI sequential EFI
Lifters hydraulic hydraulic hydraulic
Cam drive chain chain chain
Recommended unleaded fuel 93 octane 93 octane 93 octane (required)
Redline (rpm) 6,500 6,500 7,000
Horsepower/kW@ engine rpm 400/299 @ 6,000 rpm 400/299 @ 6,000 rpm 505/377 @ 6,300 rpm
Torque (lb.-ft./N-m) @ engine rpm 400 lb.ft./
542 @ 4,400 rpm 400 lb.ft./
542 @ 4,400 rpm 470 lb.ft./
637 @ 4,800 rpm
Oil distribution system Crankcase Crankcase Dry sump
Camaro
Ha ha even when the Camaro was made it was nowhere near this LOL
Displacement (liters/cu.in) 6.0/364 6.0/364 7.0/427
Bore & Stroke (in.) 4.00 X 3.62 4.00 X 3.62 4.125 X 4.0
Bore & Stroke (mm) 101.6 X 92 101.6 X 92 104.8 X 101.6
Compression ratio 10.9:1 10.9:1 11.1:1
Block material aluminum aluminum aluminum
Cylinder head material aluminum aluminum aluminum
Valves per cylinder 2 2 2
Valvetrain pushrod with overhead valves pushrod with overhead valves pushrod with overhead valves
Induction system sequential EFI sequential EFI sequential EFI
Lifters hydraulic hydraulic hydraulic
Cam drive chain chain chain
Recommended unleaded fuel 93 octane 93 octane 93 octane (required)
Redline (rpm) 6,500 6,500 7,000
Horsepower/kW@ engine rpm 400/299 @ 6,000 rpm 400/299 @ 6,000 rpm 505/377 @ 6,300 rpm
Torque (lb.-ft./N-m) @ engine rpm 400 lb.ft./
542 @ 4,400 rpm 400 lb.ft./
542 @ 4,400 rpm 470 lb.ft./
637 @ 4,800 rpm
Oil distribution system Crankcase Crankcase Dry sump
Camaro
Ha ha even when the Camaro was made it was nowhere near this LOL
#31
I agree with that, it's all about personalizing your ride and what makes you happy...but to say a Corvette is a modded Camaro shows that you don't know what you are talking about... LOL
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People fool around with their cars so basically we have dragsters, racers and ricers. Some mod for the need for performance to shorten ET, some just got too addicted to moddin for the sake of modding.
#34
Originally Posted by BasenjiGuy
An childhood friend of mine who has been an IMSA Mazda racing team Rotor Motor builder and Porsche mechanic said it best:
"The factory gets it right." If you want a faster car, spend more money when you buy. OK, if you want a hobby to waste time and money on, and decrease the value of your car, start modding it. If I had an extra $5 to $7k toss around, I'd buy an old Miata or a motorcycle.
"The factory gets it right." If you want a faster car, spend more money when you buy. OK, if you want a hobby to waste time and money on, and decrease the value of your car, start modding it. If I had an extra $5 to $7k toss around, I'd buy an old Miata or a motorcycle.
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Friends dont let friends drive stock.
I have done many mods to the car short of FI. And have not regretted a penny spent. If you do your homework before buying and do not have unrealistic expectations all the mods for this car are fun and add value. IMO.
Enjoy your car in all their forms.
I have done many mods to the car short of FI. And have not regretted a penny spent. If you do your homework before buying and do not have unrealistic expectations all the mods for this car are fun and add value. IMO.
Enjoy your car in all their forms.
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As a general rule...fun costs money. The more you pay out the more you get. That's why a turbo cost so much more. Honestly the parts probably don't cost anywhere near what they sell them for, of course I know they have to pay for their R&d but still.
Hey, let's put it this way I already got my wishlist made out!
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Originally Posted by RX-8 MoneyPit
RPO LS2 LS2 LS7
Displacement (liters/cu.in) 6.0/364 6.0/364 7.0/427
Bore & Stroke (in.) 4.00 X 3.62 4.00 X 3.62 4.125 X 4.0
Bore & Stroke (mm) 101.6 X 92 101.6 X 92 104.8 X 101.6
Compression ratio 10.9:1 10.9:1 11.1:1
Block material aluminum aluminum aluminum
Cylinder head material aluminum aluminum aluminum
Valves per cylinder 2 2 2
Valvetrain pushrod with overhead valves pushrod with overhead valves pushrod with overhead valves
Induction system sequential EFI sequential EFI sequential EFI
Lifters hydraulic hydraulic hydraulic
Cam drive chain chain chain
Recommended unleaded fuel 93 octane 93 octane 93 octane (required)
Redline (rpm) 6,500 6,500 7,000
Horsepower/kW@ engine rpm 400/299 @ 6,000 rpm 400/299 @ 6,000 rpm 505/377 @ 6,300 rpm
Torque (lb.-ft./N-m) @ engine rpm 400 lb.ft./
542 @ 4,400 rpm 400 lb.ft./
542 @ 4,400 rpm 470 lb.ft./
637 @ 4,800 rpm
Oil distribution system Crankcase Crankcase Dry sump
Camaro
Ha ha even when the Camaro was made it was nowhere near this LOL
Displacement (liters/cu.in) 6.0/364 6.0/364 7.0/427
Bore & Stroke (in.) 4.00 X 3.62 4.00 X 3.62 4.125 X 4.0
Bore & Stroke (mm) 101.6 X 92 101.6 X 92 104.8 X 101.6
Compression ratio 10.9:1 10.9:1 11.1:1
Block material aluminum aluminum aluminum
Cylinder head material aluminum aluminum aluminum
Valves per cylinder 2 2 2
Valvetrain pushrod with overhead valves pushrod with overhead valves pushrod with overhead valves
Induction system sequential EFI sequential EFI sequential EFI
Lifters hydraulic hydraulic hydraulic
Cam drive chain chain chain
Recommended unleaded fuel 93 octane 93 octane 93 octane (required)
Redline (rpm) 6,500 6,500 7,000
Horsepower/kW@ engine rpm 400/299 @ 6,000 rpm 400/299 @ 6,000 rpm 505/377 @ 6,300 rpm
Torque (lb.-ft./N-m) @ engine rpm 400 lb.ft./
542 @ 4,400 rpm 400 lb.ft./
542 @ 4,400 rpm 470 lb.ft./
637 @ 4,800 rpm
Oil distribution system Crankcase Crankcase Dry sump
Camaro
Ha ha even when the Camaro was made it was nowhere near this LOL
Before being a jackass in the future know what the hell you're talking about, thanks.
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