rotten42

no, because you have demonstrated over and over that you are a mental midget!

I'm sure the people who own an RX8 in your area will be happy to part out your car after you crash it......putz!


Maybe instead of mommy and daddy buying you a car they should spend it on buying you a brain...no, wait...that would be a waste of money.

Mikelikes2drive

can someone edit the title of this thread to correct the spelling? its really bothers me for some reason haha sorry.

oh yah btw im 18 and have an 8 i got it when i was 17. you can be young and have a 8 but just gotta be smart about it and mature. and when you're 15... or 16.... your opinions on cars change as much as your hormones do

InvisibleMonkey

so, you're telling me that you're scared of what i say?

InvisibleMonkey

why are you all saying that i'll crash it? you don't even f*cking know me(don't be like "oh you said "f*cking"...that's so immature, he shouldn't drive" because it just makes you sound like a retard) there have been many valid points on this thread supporting the fact that if i want the car, i should get it...and i've talked to some people(that replied on this thread, AND disagreed with me) and he said that you're all jealous that you couldn't get a car like that when you were my age, and honestly, i'd be jealous too...so just give up...you're only making me want the car even more

and how do you know wether i'm a putz or not? and you call me immature

rotten42

By what you said...I know your type...AND YOU WILL CRASH IT!

Man, if you get this jacked over an internet site I can just image what your reaction would be like when someone challenges you behind the wheel.

Mature?.......far from it! Get you car,..ignore what people have been saying....and prove us right.

rotten42

see above :D (whether)

BlueFrenzy

Man this thread is still going?

Bottom line. GET MORE EXPERIENCE IN DRIVING. I'm not insulting you but like a I said before ... Jesus/Ghandi/Buddha could be driving the 8 and still cause harm cuz they're inexperienced drivers.

Don't get the 8 just cuz it'll "one-up" the other students.

I don't believe that the members are "jealous" of you cuz you will be getting an 8 at an early age. More that you are flaunting it and making that the basis of your arguements.

Regardless, this is pointless discussion. Can a mod please close this thread. the kid's just going to get angrier and angrier. And we all know that is the path to the dark side.

Nubo

I would point out that the RX-8 is tons safer than the cars I started out with. Cars with marginal brakes, bad tires, bad steering, no airbags, and a nice metal dash. Any car can be taken past its limits and I don't remember there being any magic than inhibited young kids from doing stupid stuff with "ordinary" cars.

On the other hand the quote above worries me. I hope we don't meet while I'm pedalling my bike down a back road while you're "testing [the car's] limits". Don't drive further than you can see, and drive as if there is ALWAYS someone around the bend.

Vertigo-1

iTrader: (3)

Pretty much agree with this guy. What's to stop any kid from acting stupid in a Geo Metro? Just getting in an RX-8 doesn't automatically make you an idiot driver. If you're planning to be stupid, you're going to be stupid, regardless of whether it be in an RX-8 or a Geo Metro or even a bicycle.

I can't help but wonder when I see posts calling our RX-8 "powerful" or "fast", as though the RX-8 were extra dangerous somehow. Powerful and fast in what extra special way, pray tell? Most modern family sedans pack the same 200 or so HP the RX-8 has if not way more, and you could probably count on your ten fingers or less the number of cars today that can't do over 100 mph.

Learning how to drive has very little to do with the car, if you ask me. It has more to do with whether or not you're a responsible and mature enough driver to resist idiotic temptations. You don't have to be a kid to drive recklessly. I mean gee, I'm sure everybody on this board drives their RX-8 at the speed limit and shifts at 3000 RPMs, takes turns nice and slow, and actually brakes before curves like you're supposed to.

Monetary and financial responsibility...well that's a whole different story.

jsh1120

Don't flatter yourself. There's a difference between pity and fear. Hopefully you'll grow up significantly before anyone lets you get behind the wheel of any car.

In any event, if you're looking for validation of your point of view you could pass this entire thread on to your parents. I have some hope that if they understand your perspective they may think twice before putting you behind the wheel of anything with an engine. But hope springs eternal.

Hellbreed

You're missing the point, the vehicle has nothing to do with it, he has demonstrated an attitude that is dangerous behind the wheel of any car.

Any sports car is dangerous because you can do so much more at high speeds due to their handling, and speed can kill, especially when a lack of experience comes into play.

And you truely believe IM has demonstrated this?

erl

So, you're saying that people should not be allowed to drive until, in your opinion, they're sufficiently mature enough that they will drive safe? What age is that, exactly?

We could move the driving age to 25, and people here would bitch that the 25 year old shouldn't drive yet because they don't have enough experience. Well, no kidding, they haven't driven yet!

It astounds me to see people call this guy immature, then go to another thread and talk about how fast they've gotten their -8 up to, or have a picture of a persons legs coming out of a toilet with "Mental Health is Overrated" as their avatar...or pictures of cartoon characters....

Come on, people. save the high and mighty routine for someone else and let's talk about how good (or bad, if that's your opinion) the RX-8 is.

graphicguy

All the stability control/safety features in the world are going to pull someone's butt out of the ditch (or, even worse, physical injury to you or someone else). The laws of physics are still at play, with or without a governor or stability control/safety features. With something like an RX8, you can get into plenty of trouble....much moreso than with a car with lower capabilites. As I said before, you're still hurtling around a 3,000 pound glass & steel projectile with very high capabilities for a driver with little in the way of driving experience.

Most of the cars made in the last several years have airbags, ABS, etc. Saabs are supposedly good ones (not my cup of tea, but I have no idea whether they are good or bad cars). They're "supposed" to be safe. FWD right? That will make them rather benign, which is good for a new driver.

Not being critical at all. Just knowing what the RX8 is capable of, I wouldn't put it in the hands of a driver that only has a few years (or less) of driving experience, regardless of their age or their financial means (or their parents financial means). As a parent, it would be irresponsible of me, and would consider it a danger to others on the road having someone with little experience behind the wheel (and no, a year's worth of experience does not qualify as extensive experience).

I don't care how good or bad the driver's training is. It still can't prepare them for the multitude of driving scenarios they'll encounter without a few years of experience in real world situations.

Monkey....that Hyundai is a good first car to gain experience. Drive it until the wheels fall off, which should take a while given they have something like 10 year warranties. They have all the modern safety features. It will be economical to drive, the more recent models are very well made. It should carry you through at least your high school years, and with any luck at all, a good portion of college.

My son bought a 2 year old Elantra. They are great first cars. Stick with it as long as it keeps running. You're pocketbook will be all the better for it. You'll be driving a safe car and you'll have some coin in your pocket to afford something nicer when you land that first post graduate job.....and, much more driving experience to boot.

InvisibleMonkey

I'm going to just delete this thread in a couple hours...it's going to go on forever and i honestly don't care what you say...i got my answer already, and i'm gonna get the car the second i turn 17

rotten42

post the pics after you crash it :D

InvisibleMonkey

will do! :D

and you call me immature

rotten42

Yes, I do!

Tamas

iTrader: (1)

Why wait?

InvisibleMonkey

so people know

graphicguy

Well then......come back in a couple of years and let us know how all of that turns out......the more I hear, the less I'm convinced this scenario is going to work out for you.

BlueEyes

Just do it now kid. Don't be so arrogant as to think people care if you delete it. Do us all a favour. This thread is rediculous, and in fairness, it isn't just you.

Good luck in the future.

jsh1120

Well, that should save you from the embarassment of reading your posts as you mature, not to mention the risk that your parents might come across it.

rotten42

The only good to come out of this thread was that it increased my post count :D

buzzardsluck

I just read the first couple pages of this so if I repeat anything just ignore my post. In HS me and my g/f didnt have a good place to go for sex (2 stay at home moms). The 8 is difficult to have sex in. So if you need a car as a "bedroom" like I did dont get the 8. On the other hand the 8 may help you get a woman if you dont have one now.

plugot

I haven't a clue what the average age of this forum is, but I suspect I might be a few years older than many of you. Let's put it this way, I've been a licensed driver since 1962. I've owned pretty much everything from a Toyota Celica and an early Saab 95 wagon to a Jag XJS to a C5 Corvette with a few MBs, and turbo Zs thrown in for good measure. My Dad was a very serious car guy. Always had something different. So I grew up around some very hot sports cars. When I was 16 I learned to drive a stick on my Dad's new XK-E coupe. And yes, like InvisibleMonkey, I did test its limits on some windy back roads. Hell, you're a teenager it's all about testing limits. I never did any damage to myself or the car. I appreciated the power, the finese, the great "carness" of the thing. I had an older brother who had a couple year old Ford convertible and was in England in grad school when I got my license. Since I wasn't attending a public school I had to take the bus and the train to school. When I got my license my folks let me use my brother's car to go back and forth to school. They wouldn't let me use it on school nights but back then we had something called "homework" which would take about 4 hours a night. I wouldn't have been able to drive the car even if I wanted to.

My parents trusted my judgement, and I didn't abuse their trust. Perhaps InvisibleMonkey is in that category. It doesn't mean he wouldn't want to put his foot into it, but maybe, just maybe he knows when it's appropriate to do so. Which brings me to the real heart of this post. Make a deal with your folks. If they're going to dump $35K into a car for you, maybe they should put up another grand or so and send you to an advanced driving school. You're young and you haven't had time to develop really bad habits yet. You'll learn to handle a car in situations that you can't replicate on the street and it will give you both confidence and a skill set to help you cope with the temptations that come with a performance car. Had such things existed back when I was first driving, I would've gone. Not only will it make you a better driver, but it might set an example for your friends. To paraphrase -- "friends don't let friends drive crazy". Something to think about.