Death of my RX8, its burning in car hell
03-09-2008, 11:09 AM
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I figure the value of the car is probably 15k or so, has 31k miles on it, sport package, 05. If the damage is below that then Ill get mine repaired which would be amazing, if its totaled a check will be the only thing I'll get. I'll post up some pics of the car and the engine bay(which is so cooked) and let you guys be the judge.
03-09-2008, 11:11 AM
#54
Sorry, I didn't get a picture of it but on a side note, my car was also in an accident...
https://www.rx8club.com/west-rx-8-forum-34/car-accident-look-damage-%24%24%24-139980/#post2338054
https://www.rx8club.com/west-rx-8-forum-34/car-accident-look-damage-%24%24%24-139980/#post2338054
03-09-2008, 02:12 PM
#55
sorry to hear about the loss... i lost my rx7 to a faulty fuel line.....and mine was a show car
so sad... go buy an evo.. it'll make you happy (it did for me)
but why was everyone stressing over the nitrous bottle? nitrous is not flammable AT ALL! F&F totally fubarred that whole scene when the "NOS" blew the car up..lol...
so sad... go buy an evo.. it'll make you happy (it did for me)but why was everyone stressing over the nitrous bottle? nitrous is not flammable AT ALL! F&F totally fubarred that whole scene when the "NOS" blew the car up..lol...
03-09-2008, 07:12 PM
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Good news guys! i checked up on the insurance policy for the car and negligence is not listed under things that are not covered!
However, even if its either repaired or i get a check, it wont be repaired back to the way i had it, all mazdaspeeded out with a lot of performance parts. but still, better to have a car than no car!!!
However, even if its either repaired or i get a check, it wont be repaired back to the way i had it, all mazdaspeeded out with a lot of performance parts. but still, better to have a car than no car!!!
03-09-2008, 10:31 PM
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So.... my car is officially scrap metal...
just finished up a nitrous install and was running around town with the nitrous OFF. was driving home to make sure I had the lines tightened up all the way before i ran the nitrous and as i was passing the gas station I heard a loud POP and my motor died, all the warning lights came on, everything died.
i was not under boost and then white smoke started pouring out of my hood. I got out quickly and popped the hood and there was a fire where the fuel line is... I freaked out and yellled at everyone to get as far away as possible and called 911 from the gas station. I had them shut down their pumps and when the fire department showed up told them I had a full tank of nos in the back. they proceeded to freak out and quickly doused the fire and removed the tank and threw it aside. thankfully i am ok and was not running the nitrous when this happened or I may have been killed.
The cause of the problem was obviously the fuel line as the fire was located right over the tee fitting for the fuel line that goes into the solenoid. However it quickly spread and decimated the whole car. Thankfully it spread to the back of the car last and did not even singe the tank becasue they pulled it out in time/
I dont want to discourage anyone from getting nitrous by making this post. It can be safe just please have it done by a professional. I was arrogant and thought I could handle it on my own and even after spending a week taking my time and doing it right something still went wrong. It really sucks becasue I put all my time and hard earned money into this car and was very patient with it only for it to blow up.
But I realize that it is my fault and a mistake of my own, and I don't blame anyone but my own damn self. Hopefully I can view this whole tragedy as a learning experience and take something postitive away from it, like the fact that I'm still here...
Please everyone just be safe out there and when dealing with some type of forced induction please have someone with knowledge on this sort of thing do it!
just finished up a nitrous install and was running around town with the nitrous OFF. was driving home to make sure I had the lines tightened up all the way before i ran the nitrous and as i was passing the gas station I heard a loud POP and my motor died, all the warning lights came on, everything died.
i was not under boost and then white smoke started pouring out of my hood. I got out quickly and popped the hood and there was a fire where the fuel line is... I freaked out and yellled at everyone to get as far away as possible and called 911 from the gas station. I had them shut down their pumps and when the fire department showed up told them I had a full tank of nos in the back. they proceeded to freak out and quickly doused the fire and removed the tank and threw it aside. thankfully i am ok and was not running the nitrous when this happened or I may have been killed.
The cause of the problem was obviously the fuel line as the fire was located right over the tee fitting for the fuel line that goes into the solenoid. However it quickly spread and decimated the whole car. Thankfully it spread to the back of the car last and did not even singe the tank becasue they pulled it out in time/
I dont want to discourage anyone from getting nitrous by making this post. It can be safe just please have it done by a professional. I was arrogant and thought I could handle it on my own and even after spending a week taking my time and doing it right something still went wrong. It really sucks becasue I put all my time and hard earned money into this car and was very patient with it only for it to blow up.
But I realize that it is my fault and a mistake of my own, and I don't blame anyone but my own damn self. Hopefully I can view this whole tragedy as a learning experience and take something postitive away from it, like the fact that I'm still here...
Please everyone just be safe out there and when dealing with some type of forced induction please have someone with knowledge on this sort of thing do it!
03-10-2008, 12:21 AM
#59
T, I wonder if that part of the install on the fuel line that I had some reservations about had anything to do with the "pop". I'd bet the 60 PSI fuel pressure slipped one of the ends off we discussed.
I feel bad that I wasn't more insistent that you do it my way. I probably should have followed my gut and been a ***** about it.
I feel bad that I wasn't more insistent that you do it my way. I probably should have followed my gut and been a ***** about it.
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03-10-2008, 12:58 AM
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wow, sorry to hear that this happened. and, hope you get it resolved quickly.
am just curious though... realistically, with the way insurance companies do business, will they even pay out on a loss such as this?
the damage wasn't caused by an accident or a mechanical failure or a defect in the vehicle. (a) the engine was materially modified by an unlicensed mechanic (the owner) and basically voided the warranty and (b) u told the fire dept about the nos and they adjusted their rescue effort accordingly- which means it will be on their loss report, no doubt.
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am just curious though... realistically, with the way insurance companies do business, will they even pay out on a loss such as this?
the damage wasn't caused by an accident or a mechanical failure or a defect in the vehicle. (a) the engine was materially modified by an unlicensed mechanic (the owner) and basically voided the warranty and (b) u told the fire dept about the nos and they adjusted their rescue effort accordingly- which means it will be on their loss report, no doubt.
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Last edited by Detrich; 03-10-2008 at 01:07 AM.
03-10-2008, 06:28 AM
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wow, sorry to hear that this happened. and, hope you get it resolved quickly.
am just curious though... realistically, with the way insurance companies do business, will they even pay out on a loss such as this?
the damage wasn't caused by an accident or a mechanical failure or a defect in the vehicle. (a) the engine was materially modified by an unlicensed mechanic (the owner) and basically voided the warranty and (b) u told the fire dept about the nos and they adjusted their rescue effort accordingly- which means it will be on their loss report, no doubt.
?
am just curious though... realistically, with the way insurance companies do business, will they even pay out on a loss such as this?
the damage wasn't caused by an accident or a mechanical failure or a defect in the vehicle. (a) the engine was materially modified by an unlicensed mechanic (the owner) and basically voided the warranty and (b) u told the fire dept about the nos and they adjusted their rescue effort accordingly- which means it will be on their loss report, no doubt.
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Charles, I wish you would have made me do it your way because now I'm out 30 grand!
I'm almost postive that's where the problem came from because that's where the fire was and nitrous wasn't in use at the time. It really sucks becasue I never got to use it... not even once, and the engine blew. Hopefully the car will be repaired but I bet the damage will make it totaled so the RX-8 might be gone for good. This is where it sucks because of how bad the resale value of the car is.
03-10-2008, 09:06 AM
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The Professor
So: Fuel line slipped off of barb fitting, car stalls (warning lights go on) because of lack of fuel, pump remains squiring 60psi of fuel everywhere in the engine bay, contacts hot surfaces and ignites?
03-10-2008, 09:09 AM
#66
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For sure, this is just the thing that makes me wish the car used braided lines and -AN fittings instead of rubber hose and quick connects (even though rubber is less tricky to work with in reguards to sparks and what-not).
It would be so safe and easy, just buy an AN fitting with 1/8npt T on it, screw it in and no need to worry about barb fittings and such.
It would be so safe and easy, just buy an AN fitting with 1/8npt T on it, screw it in and no need to worry about barb fittings and such.
03-10-2008, 09:16 AM
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This really sucks, I mean, something like this could happen to anyone.
Just a note about the insurance that my cousin told me (who is an agent for State Farm) when I started telling him about the mods I made to my car.
Apparently when you insure your car, it is insured as a stock car, which is where the rates are derived from.
Once you begin modifying in any way you violate the terms of the insurance and the company could break the insurance at any time because of it. To be insured for mods you would have to have an auditor come out and assess your vehicle, take note of the mods, who installed them etc.
So your coverage is going to be "at their mercy." whether they decide to help you out or not. They will probably look at how long you've been a member, previous driving record, how much you pay them. To see if it would benefit them for you to remain under their coverage. If they think you are too much of a risk they will probably pull the "you violated" line and just walk away.
There's really no way to tell.
Just a note about the insurance that my cousin told me (who is an agent for State Farm) when I started telling him about the mods I made to my car.
Apparently when you insure your car, it is insured as a stock car, which is where the rates are derived from.
Once you begin modifying in any way you violate the terms of the insurance and the company could break the insurance at any time because of it. To be insured for mods you would have to have an auditor come out and assess your vehicle, take note of the mods, who installed them etc.
So your coverage is going to be "at their mercy." whether they decide to help you out or not. They will probably look at how long you've been a member, previous driving record, how much you pay them. To see if it would benefit them for you to remain under their coverage. If they think you are too much of a risk they will probably pull the "you violated" line and just walk away.
There's really no way to tell.
Last edited by staticlag; 03-10-2008 at 09:21 AM.
03-10-2008, 09:17 AM
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The Professor
03-10-2008, 09:26 AM
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03-10-2008, 10:13 AM
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Good one, Dan! MM is the shoe guru. Just ask him. A few months ago we ended up letting our girls dominate the conversation, for once, and we were just as happy discussing shoes with them as we were talking about car stuff.
No lie!
No lie!
03-10-2008, 10:41 AM
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Give me a while on the parts charles. If the insurance comes through and rebuilds my 8 then I will take off the whole exhaust, the rear bumper because it is perfectly fine, the front because it could be reparied fairly easily, the side skirts are pretty bad, ones missing entirely, the spoiler is fine, the rims which are in pretty good condition, and three of the tires are still ok, ones charcoal. BUt everything electrical inside the engine bay is gone as well as the engine becasue of the meltdown
03-10-2008, 10:50 AM
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The Professor
exactly, except I believe the line slipped off where the red connectors are- that is, the rubber portion slipped off while the connectors remained in tact, that triggered either the engine explosion or engine stall, either way, its a meltdown after that fire. and then yes, with the ignition still on, the fuel pump squirteed fuel which caught fire.
Give me a while on the parts charles. If the insurance comes through and rebuilds my 8 then I will take off the whole exhaust, the rear bumper because it is perfectly fine, the front because it could be reparied fairly easily, the side skirts are pretty bad, ones missing entirely, the spoiler is fine, the rims which are in pretty good condition, and three of the tires are still ok, ones charcoal. BUt everything electrical inside the engine bay is gone as well as the engine becasue of the meltdown
Give me a while on the parts charles. If the insurance comes through and rebuilds my 8 then I will take off the whole exhaust, the rear bumper because it is perfectly fine, the front because it could be reparied fairly easily, the side skirts are pretty bad, ones missing entirely, the spoiler is fine, the rims which are in pretty good condition, and three of the tires are still ok, ones charcoal. BUt everything electrical inside the engine bay is gone as well as the engine becasue of the meltdown
03-10-2008, 11:29 AM
#75
Sorry to hear about your car but am glad you came away unhurt. I'd also like to say that you handled this in a very claim and professional manor and the fact that you are taking responsibility is refreshing in this day and age. I hope all works out well with the insurance, sounds like you deserve a break.
Good luck.
Good luck.