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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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Researching reasonable prices

Hello all,


I am looking at getting a rx8 manual in gt. What is a reasonable price otd for me? I am hoping to get 25kotd after whatever discounts I can dig up. Is this reasonable??

I am in santa clara, ca. Any advice would be great.

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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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haha its that easy! that could be an infomercial (sp?) ty!
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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if it is that easy to get 25k, what sort of deal could I get out of them with a ilttle talking?
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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I'm not so optimistic.

GT invoice: 28,900
- rebate: 3,000
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sub total: 25,900

Dealers will go below that, but look where you have to get to be at $25,000 OTD. Assuming approximately 10% for TTL in CA your price on the car has to be $22,700. I don' t see dealers finding another $3200 discount on the price for you. Not going to happen on an 06 GT for at least another few months IMO.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by map
I'm not so optimistic.

GT invoice: 28,900
- rebate: 3,000
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sub total: 25,900

Dealers will go below that, but look where you have to get to be at $25,000 OTD. Assuming approximately 10% for TTL in CA your price on the car has to be $22,700. I don' t see dealers finding another $3200 discount on the price for you. Not going to happen on an 06 GT for at least another few months IMO.
A guy can hope?? We'll see how nice the people are at the dealer, how good of a talker I can be.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by map
I'm not so optimistic.

GT invoice: 28,900
- rebate: 3,000
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sub total: 25,900

Dealers will go below that, but look where you have to get to be at $25,000 OTD. Assuming approximately 10% for TTL in CA your price on the car has to be $22,700. I don' t see dealers finding another $3200 discount on the price for you. Not going to happen on an 06 GT for at least another few months IMO.
But you would be optimistic about pulling that or better on a sport model?
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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On the rebate questions, I just bought a 2006 Mazda RX-8 for $6000 below MSRP (MSRP numbers from Edmund & KB) . $3000 MF rebate, $2000 Dealer and $1000 if you finance at least $8000 through Mazda. The car has Touring package, air dam etc. and MSRPs for about $31,800. I got it for $25,800, $27,064 out the door with tax and license. Morrie's Valley Mazda, in Chippewa Falls Wiscosin. The 2006,s have a better warrantee than the 2007s. I asked then to find one with a build date after the June, 1 recall, hopefully the problems are resolved. Nice car.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Holy smoley what a deal!
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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if it is that easy to get 25k, what sort of deal could I get out of them with a ilttle talking?
hyperlitenerd,

You're not going to get a GT in California for $25,00 OTD. You should be shooting for invoice minus $2,000-$2,500 below from the dealer AND then take off the Mazda rebates and MAC financing for an additional $3,000. Edmunds is worthless except to find out what the invoice price is. Edmunds ADDS on to the invoice for their "TMV" price. You shouldn't be paying over invoice for leftover 2006's.

I just picked up a 2006 Touring 6AT. I went with the 2006 for the warranty reason too. In fact I got into a debate with the Finance Manager when he tried to sell me on a 6 year warranty (stating that it only came with a 3 year / 36k mile. warranty).

Anyway, my deal was this - MSRP $32,215, Dealer Invoice $29.424, Dealer negotiated price of $27,000-$3,250 rebates (added Zoom Zoom Live of $250) = $23,750. Unfortunately the TTL in Calif. is based on the $27,000 for DMV.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jimbo99
hyperlitenerd,

You're not going to get a GT in California for $25,00 OTD. You should be shooting for invoice minus $2,000-$2,500 below from the dealer AND then take off the Mazda rebates and MAC financing for an additional $3,000. Edmunds is worthless except to find out what the invoice price is. Edmunds ADDS on to the invoice for their "TMV" price. You shouldn't be paying over invoice for leftover 2006's.

I just picked up a 2006 Touring 6AT. I went with the 2006 for the warranty reason too. In fact I got into a debate with the Finance Manager when he tried to sell me on a 6 year warranty (stating that it only came with a 3 year / 36k mile. warranty).

Anyway, my deal was this - MSRP $32,215, Dealer Invoice $29.424, Dealer negotiated price of $27,000-$3,250 rebates (added Zoom Zoom Live of $250) = $23,750. Unfortunately the TTL in Calif. is based on the $27,000 for DMV.
Well Jimbo, if you paid 23,750+ 2700 for TTL in cali, that is about that is still around 25-26k which isnt too bad

I myself am looking at a 2006 GT MT that is an MSRP of 31,170 I believe i may be off a couple of hundreds so looking at what you got off your car i feel that I could talk them down to about 25.5k out the door( that is taxes included right?) well if it is i hope i can get that price. :-D
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuel4theFury
Well Jimbo, if you paid 23,750+ 2700 for TTL in cali, that is about that is still around 25-26k which isnt too bad

I myself am looking at a 2006 GT MT that is an MSRP of 31,170 I believe i may be off a couple of hundreds so looking at what you got off your car i feel that I could talk them down to about 25.5k out the door( that is taxes included right?) well if it is i hope i can get that price. :-D
Fuel4theFury,

I hope you can My numbers weren't OTD.

It depends on the invoice price and how much you can get the dealer below that. I found several that said thay started at invoice and what would I offer above it. The two I got serious with started at $500-$700 below invoice.

My point is that in California, DMV requires that the TTL be calculated on the selling price. The selling price is the price before any rebates or discounts. For example say your model has an invoice of $29,175 and you are able to negotiate it down to $26,900. This would be $26,900 + $3,000+ TTL = $29,900 - $3,000 Mazda rebates = $26,900 OTD.

Your GT price seems $2,000-$3,000 lower then what I found left in Northen Calif. so your starting off in a better position.

I think that "best price discussion" should be the price without TTL since they differ across the nation.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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TTL in california is about 10% so if your paying $26,900 your tax should be able to 2600-2700 not 3000
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 01:25 AM
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Is that because the GTs that you found had more than just the GT package on it?

Originally Posted by jimbo99
Fuel4theFury,

I hope you can My numbers weren't OTD.

It depends on the invoice price and how much you can get the dealer below that. I found several that said thay started at invoice and what would I offer above it. The two I got serious with started at $500-$700 below invoice.

My point is that in California, DMV requires that the TTL be calculated on the selling price. The selling price is the price before any rebates or discounts. For example say your model has an invoice of $29,175 and you are able to negotiate it down to $26,900. This would be $26,900 + $3,000+ TTL = $29,900 - $3,000 Mazda rebates = $26,900 OTD.

Your GT price seems $2,000-$3,000 lower then what I found left in Northen Calif. so your starting off in a better position.

I think that "best price discussion" should be the price without TTL since they differ across the nation.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuel4theFury
Is that because the GTs that you found had more than just the GT package on it?
Yep.
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