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tigersilhouette 01-30-2013 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4419244)
Why is this happening... Have you considered buying another saab?

They are more comfortable and wont require an engine swap.

No, I loved my Saabs but I can't beat the combination I have with the 8 and Lexus. The drive to and from work is comfortable and reliable with the Lexus and on the weekends I get to have fun with the 8.

shadycrew31 01-30-2013 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by tigersilhouette (Post 4419331)
No, I loved my Saabs but I can't beat the combination I have with the 8 and Lexus. The drive to and from work is comfortable and reliable with the Lexus and on the weekends I get to have fun with the 8.

Do you still plan on having fun when the weight distribution is all screwed up from the heavy saab engine?

tigersilhouette 01-30-2013 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4419343)
Do you still plan on having fun when the weight distribution is all screwed up from the heavy saab engine?

I'm not sure I understand, I'm not swapping the renesis out of my car, the OP is the one considering it. Also, The B204 is a four cylinder engine, its dry weight is somewhere between 250-300 pounds. I don't think the renesis weighs much less.

shadycrew31 01-30-2013 10:39 PM

Oh I didnt notice you werent the OP.

jamesf 01-30-2013 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4419343)
Do you still plan on having fun when the weight distribution is all screwed up from the heavy saab engine?

This guy is not the op. He was just saying his lexus is reliable and he used to drive saab cars. T4 is the 1 swapping his rotary for a saab.
^^**edit** beat me to it.


Tiger, I think my 97 accord rivals your lexus. 250k still going strong! not 1 break down either during my ownership. drove the **** out of it in college.

TeamRX8 01-30-2013 11:56 PM

in general this thread demonstrates how few people understand what it takes to swap in another engine from a different brand/model and integrate the current electronic systems

why spend a fortune and make the effort to end up with a crossbred bastard child that nobody in their right mind would ever want to have anything to do with?

just search on "starion" on this forum to get an idea why this idea is destined to be a total clusterf-ck

ASH8 01-31-2013 02:24 AM

Precisely could not agree more with Team, all you end up with apart from an empty wallet is a Frankenstein POS.....one might as well burn your cash or sanity.

BTW: This applies to any brand of car.....gone are the days of 'easy' swap outs-ins.

T4XJS 01-31-2013 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by supergoat (Post 4418854)
Mazda already provided it. Proper maintenance keeps them happy.

And before you say you properly maintained it, I believe your dead engine disagrees.

I guess 50% of the people on here would disagree with that, as there are over 50% on here with engine problems, you telling me nobody looks after they're engines then, why have they made changes to try stop them dying after 50k miles.
I purchased this 2005 one cheap as it already had starting/running issues but had full service history by mazda including all new mazda plug, leads, coils, new oil pipes, recalls etc..
:D:

T4XJS 01-31-2013 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4419343)
Do you still plan on having fun when the weight distribution is all screwed up from the heavy saab engine?

Yeah i plan to, well its for the mrs. I see lots of chaps seem to be putting v8's in rx7's 8s over there so can't be all that bad ..
;)

jamesf 01-31-2013 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by T4XJS (Post 4419450)
I guess 50% of the people on here would disagree with that, as there are over 50% on here with engine problems, you telling me nobody looks after they're engines then, why have they made changes to try stop them dying after 50k miles.
I purchased this 2005 one cheap as it already had starting/running issues but had full service history by mazda including all new mazda plug, leads, coils, new oil pipes, recalls etc..
:D:


Fix it then, and make it run right.

T4XJS 01-31-2013 05:05 AM

And i think theres only about 2 rotory engine building experts in the UK and they're 8 to 9 hours drive from me.. engine swap is simple, cost is way cheaper than a rotory rebuild.
I can only try it and see what it drives like..
easy to put it back as original or keep for spares for my other one..

nycgps 01-31-2013 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by T4XJS (Post 4419450)
I guess 50% of the people on here would disagree with that, as there are over 50% on here with engine problems, you telling me nobody looks after they're engines then, why have they made changes to try stop them dying after 50k miles.
I purchased this 2005 one cheap as it already had starting/running issues but had full service history by mazda including all new mazda plug, leads, coils, new oil pipes, recalls etc..
:D:

rofl, where did the 50% came from? your ass?

you do know that no one gonna yell out "OMG MY CAR IS TROUBLE FREE!" , right ?


Originally Posted by T4XJS (Post 4419455)
And i think theres only about 2 rotory engine building experts in the UK and they're 8 to 9 hours drive from me.. engine swap is simple, cost is way cheaper than a rotory rebuild.
I can only try it and see what it drives like..
easy to put it back as original or keep for spares for my other one..

LMMAAAAAAAAOOOOO ! way cheaper than a rebuild? LOOOOLOLOL !!!!!

I sense a HUGE fail coming REAL soon ...

simonmd 01-31-2013 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by T4XJS (Post 4419455)
I can only try it and see what it drives like....

It'll be nose heavy and probably eat front tyres for breakfast. Don't forget to factor in the cost of uprated front suspension as well.

T4XJS 01-31-2013 10:02 AM

Yeah I know it will be a bit heavier up front and have coilovers if required,
battery etc will be moved to rear.

T4XJS 01-31-2013 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4419467)
rofl, where did the 50% came from? your ass?

you do know that no one gonna yell out "OMG MY CAR IS TROUBLE FREE!" , right ?



LMMAAAAAAAAOOOOO ! way cheaper than a rebuild? LOOOOLOLOL !!!!!

I sense a HUGE fail coming REAL soon ...



I've had the HUGE fail.. the rotory..
never had a B204 fail..
If i could rebuild this and garantee it would last more than 50k miles i would.. but i know it won't,

Rudolph 01-31-2013 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4419015)
Since when are Saabs reliable? I always thought they were not. Paging Shadycrew31 (he used to drive one) IIRC.

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nycgps 02-01-2013 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by T4XJS (Post 4419813)
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I've had the HUGE fail.. the rotory..
never had a B204 fail..
If i could rebuild this and garantee it would last more than 50k miles i would.. but i know it won't,


Lol, so many people here have way more than 50k trouble free miles, yea i wonder what/who is the problem :lol:

Rudolph 02-01-2013 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4420148)
Lol, so many people here have way more than 50k trouble free miles, yea i wonder what/who is the problem :lol:

Peter Gilbert's car

A 1989 Saab 900 SPG with ..........................1,001,385 miles.


http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4813/saab120506.jpg

This Saab story is one in a million

nycgps 02-01-2013 05:43 AM

sad that he has to stuck with some piece of shit for a million miles ?

Rudolph 02-01-2013 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4420152)
sad that he achieved only a million miles ?

:boink:

nycgps 02-01-2013 06:37 AM

Saab is known for a piece of shit for a reason :)

Rudolph 02-01-2013 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4420161)
I find everything shit due to some psychological disorder I think:)

:boink::boink:

nycgps 02-01-2013 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Rudolph (Post 4420164)
:boink::boink:

what are you doing again ?

Rudolph 02-01-2013 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 4420166)
what are you doing again ?

:wiggle::wiggle::wiggle:

ken-x8 02-01-2013 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by T4XJS (Post 4419450)
I guess 50% of the people on here would disagree with that, as there are over 50% on here with engine problems...

The actual number is substantially lower, and that was among the early model years. Still a lot more than one would like.

If you pull the swap off, please take pictures and post them here. You're getting a rude reception because this site gets a fair number of posts from people who don't have a clue and announce they're going to swap something in to get better gas mileage. Every now and then someone who does have a clue comes back with pictures of their final result.

No getting around that it won't make economic sense. But not every project has to.

Ken


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