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T4XJS 01-28-2013 02:44 PM

Saab Turbo engine convert
 
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Now my 2005 192 engine has gave up the ghost, i'am just going to replace it with one of my saab turbo engines b204..
So will post some pics and info asap...

9krpmrx8 01-28-2013 02:46 PM

Cool, but personally I think you should go with an Isuzu V-6, it's a much more popular swap.

Unoriginalusername 01-28-2013 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4417890)
Cool, but personally I think you shoudl go with an Isuzu V-6, it's a much more popular swap.

Has the supporting graphs too

godesshunter 01-28-2013 05:58 PM

What is with the trend of swapping into the 8 whatever crappy old engine one has lying around? I don't understand people. Its not an old broken lawn mower.

And doesn't belong in the DIY forum

ASH8 01-29-2013 02:16 AM


Moved thread..Not certain it even belongs here...perhaps should be lounge.
Anyway OP...all I can say is OH NO!

nycgps 01-29-2013 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4417890)
Cool, but personally I think you should go with an Isuzu V-6, it's a much more popular swap.

^^ THIS!

moving from win to uber fail might be a fun thing to watch.

simonmd 01-29-2013 09:13 AM

I have one question, WHY?

You're just making a totaly unique car into a conventional coupe.

shadycrew31 01-29-2013 11:18 PM

:/.

T4XJS 01-30-2013 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by godesshunter (Post 4417994)
What is with the trend of swapping into the 8 whatever crappy old engine one has lying around? I don't understand people. Its not an old broken lawn mower.

And doesn't belong in the DIY forum

If the Admin staff wish to place this thread into another forum section, please do so..
and my saab engines are good for 500bhp plus, but unfortunately my 470bhp set up, manifold, holset etc won't fit in the engine bay ;-( so will be sticking to 275bhp. and they will run forever unlike the rotory.. i have a 2003 231 rx8 also at 96000miles lasted longer than a 2005 192..?? and far expensive to rebuild, We don't have the same warranty in the UK as you do elsewhere...
So i want to keep the car as an everyday reliable car and hope it will still be as good as the 231 drives and handle..

T4XJS 01-30-2013 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4417890)
Cool, but personally I think you should go with an Isuzu V-6, it's a much more popular swap.

I've got some good Saab engines already mate so make sense to use what i have.

T4XJS 01-30-2013 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by simonmd (Post 4418289)
I have one question, WHY?

You're just making a totaly unique car into a conventional coupe.

Well can anyone supply a rotory engine that will last, not get all the normal problems,.. exactly..
so i'am doing what i hope is best for me and to have a nice looking car and will start, stop everytime i want it to.
did think about mx5 engine/turbo

supergoat 01-30-2013 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by T4XJS (Post 4418828)
Well can anyone supply a rotory engine that will last, not get all the normal problems,.. exactly..

Mazda already provided it. Proper maintenance keeps them happy.

And before you say you properly maintained it, I believe your dead engine disagrees.

nycgps 01-30-2013 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by T4XJS (Post 4418822)
If the Admin staff wish to place this thread into another forum section, please do so..
and my saab engines are good for 500bhp plus, but unfortunately my 470bhp set up, manifold, holset etc won't fit in the engine bay ;-( so will be sticking to 275bhp. and they will run forever unlike the rotory.. i have a 2003 231 rx8 also at 96000miles lasted longer than a 2005 192..?? and far expensive to rebuild, We don't have the same warranty in the UK as you do elsewhere...
So i want to keep the car as an everyday reliable car and hope it will still be as good as the 231 drives and handle..

rofl, failed.

simonmd 01-30-2013 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by T4XJS (Post 4418828)
Well can anyone supply a rotory engine that will last, not get all the normal problems,.. exactly..
so i'am doing what i hope is best for me and to have a nice looking car and will start, stop everytime i want it to.
did think about mx5 engine/turbo

I really don't want to sound like i'm flaming you, honestly I don't, you obviously have WAY more experience and mechanical knowhow than me. I wouldn't have a CLUE how to do some of the things you are capable under the bonnet by the sound of it.

However, the question still remains, if you don't want a rotary engine, WHY buy an RX8? Surely you're going to totaly screw with the perfect 50/50 weight distribution by dumping another engine in so the driving experience will be compromised as well.

I can totaly understand you obviously love the shape, layout, etc. but the engine is the heart of these cars and one of the main things that makes them so special. If you want a car that "will start, stop everytime i want it to", get a good rebuild and look after it properly.

9krpmrx8 01-30-2013 11:59 AM

Since when are Saabs reliable? I always thought they were not. Paging Shadycrew31 (he used to drive one) IIRC.

simonmd 01-30-2013 12:11 PM

SAABs do have a habit of blowing head gaskets, even more likely on a tuned turbo unit.

Awesome_X 01-30-2013 02:37 PM

My brother had a saab that we called " The Swedish POS " it was a turbo car and wasn't any faster than my 8. It did exactly what most saab's do and blew a head gasket..... he now drives a benz..... and he's still a loser :yelrotflm

shadycrew31 01-30-2013 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8 (Post 4419015)
Since when are Saabs reliable? I always thought they were not. Paging Shadycrew31 (he used to drive one) IIRC.

Yea I owned a 96 900se V6 for about 3 weeks before the ECU took a shit and the car had to be towed. Then the vert top stopped working and something else blew up.

That was about 10 years ago and was 7 year old car at the time with 35,000 miles.

I still like Saab's though, dunno why...

TeamRX8 01-30-2013 05:10 PM


tigersilhouette 01-30-2013 05:18 PM

I use to drive Saabs. Had two 97 900 Turbos, and a 2001 9-5 V6 turbo. Saab engines are just like the renesis...they have their quirks. However, I'm curious how you will wire the trionic ECU system in with the RX-8. The wiring alone sounds like it will get complicated. However, if you are able to integrate it, the B204 block is very strong and will last a long time. I would also consider a toyota engine if the Saab engine doesn't work out. My daily driver is a Lexus with over 230,000 miles on it (1mz-fe). Now THAT engine is reliable!

-Lawrence

Boeuf 01-30-2013 05:38 PM

George Carlin is awesome, it's so true.

shadycrew31 01-30-2013 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by tigersilhouette (Post 4419228)
I use to drive Saabs. Had two 97 900 Turbos, and a 2001 9-5 V6 turbo. Saab engines are just like the renesis...they have their quirks. However, I'm curious how you will wire the trionic ECU system in with the RX-8. The wiring alone sounds like it will get complicated. However, if you are able to integrate it, the B204 block is very strong and will last a long time. I would also consider a toyota engine if the Saab engine doesn't work out. My daily driver is a Lexus with over 230,000 miles on it (1mz-fe). Now THAT engine is reliable!

-Lawrence

Why is this happening... Have you considered buying another saab?

They are more comfortable and wont require an engine swap.

nycgps 01-30-2013 07:36 PM

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ken-x8 01-30-2013 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by supergoat (Post 4418854)
Mazda already provided it. Proper maintenance keeps them happy.

And before you say you properly maintained it, I believe your dead engine disagrees.

That's not true. There are members here who took meticulous care of their 8s, and still had engines blow. Yeah, you can trash one by ignoring maintenance, but well-maintained Renesi can randomly fail.

Ken

nycgps 01-30-2013 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 4419285)
That's not true. There are members here who took meticulous care of their 8s, and still had engines blow. Yeah, you can trash one by ignoring maintenance, but well-maintained Renesi can randomly fail.

Ken

eat healthy, non-smoking, rest on time/well, etc does NOT mean you will never get cancer.

shit happens, dont 'ask me how I know :angel: (No no no I never had cancer, was talking about my 8's engine, LOL)

but it IS true that a LOT of idiots never keep up with regular maintenance ...


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