actually he took it on a highway run and it wasnt until he got off and tried climbing a hill in 4th that he really noticed the problem

 

hah i find this picture appropriate for what were talking about

 

hey jon, i was looking through my old links and i found the site i think i ordered the intake off of.
http://www.ilovebodykits.com/product..._1_3L_R2_.html
is that a v1 or v2 intake? im not seeing it say either which makes me think its a v1.

 

Thats the v2 intake

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...d=69-6030-1TFK

 

I would agree with downshifting.
BUT... accelerating uphill in 4th was an interesting experience with his car.
It might struggle as expected, but the car 'should' be able to accelerate (although slowly).
TJ's car did not have the ability to accelerate on the hill when I tried it and just maintained its speed/RPM.

Maybe I'm just not used to the feel of a stock car anymore
Next time one of you guys start to ride-up a good length incline, drop down to 4th gear and WOT and see how your car accelerates.
It'll be interesting to see how others handle hills in 4th.

 

TJ...what incline are you taking to do this testing? Maybe Tom can swing by and take the same incline one of these nights if he is free.

 

Maybe I'll uninstall my tune tonight and go up the same hill I took TJ's car on.
Don't think the mid-pipe and coils should make that big of a difference.

 

Seems like an awfully long way to drive just to test it. And do you really think your tune increases your torque that much?

 

I tested his car on a hill near my house
And yes, there was a noticeable difference between his car and mine.

 

Ah...forgot he went down there.

So just thinking about mods in general...increasing torque would be limited in the car because of the limitations of the rotor...yes? So increased torque might come from your pulley or flywheel more than from your MM tune. Right?

 

More than my MM tune... I HIGHLY doubt that.
Plus, I wouldn't even consider my pulley upgrade to be that significant.

When I go on the hill tonight, I'll perform a couple logs of engine load, RPM, and speed.
I'll do a run with the tune and one without and see if there is a difference (since obviously my mods will be the same, just one is tuned and one isn't).

 

Sure would have been nice to have the same information from TJ's car to do a comparison. :P

 

Yes... but you would also need that same grade of incline to properly compare the data
Its possible that TJ and I can do a run on the same hill using the same base map and collect that data.

 

Even then I still say your mods might help with torque, while maybe only a small bit. Maybe I can head down or over since my drivetrain is closer to his.

 

That or maybe we can finalize a date for our next meet and we can all just get together then.

 

7/11 at the headlands

 

Headlands?

 

http://cleveland6club.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1929

 

ummm.... maybe

 

okay id be okay with people taking a couple runs on my car at that. if you guys can make it. sounds good to me

 

Couldn't hurt TJ, maybe you can drive someone's 8 and see how it feels too... might just find out nothing is wrong with your car after all.
I took your car out on several WOT runs (starting about ~4500 rpm) through various gears and didn't feel anything wrong.
That hill experience might just have been me forgetting what its like to drive a car with fewer mods.
Like John mentioned, drive another car with close to the same components and see what happens.

 

Ryan- still want me to look at your AP dongle?
I'm free all day Sunday and Monday so let me know.

 

idk i could do that too but i know theres a problem. i even took brandon out with me and he noticed a problem too. idk why but for some reason it really didn't act up that much when you drove it. could be i just handle my car differently to cause it to act up. would make sense since im always askin advice on where you guys cruise at and shift at and what not.

 

But what is telling you that there is a problem?
Have you compared with another 8 to know for sure?
Maybe you just haven't realized that good acceleration on an RX8 should not be started below 4K rpm.

 

its not so much slow acceleration, i tried it in first and waited till 5k rpms and it went fine but the exhaust note totally changed and sounded so extremely loud and shitty. it never did that so i know its not the exhaust. idk the bad acceleration doesnt kick in till the engines under a big load.