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Old 01-16-2005, 11:41 AM
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Angry Nyt-owl's Rants

Okay,
I didn't want it to come to this, but someone, not going to name anyone (so your safe Irish) got me started ranting about my ex. I figure I can't be the only one on here that has an ex- (wife, girlfriend/boyfriend, sponge, blood-sucking leach on my soul) type person. This would be a great place to talk about the old ex. For example, my ex decided to stop making car payments on her 2003 Jetta and gave me her car keys. Since the payments were coming out of my checking account, and we were heading towards divorce court, I traded in her Jetta for my RX8 and had it put in my dad's name. I am glad I had the foresight to do that, because she tried to get my RX8 in divorce court.
So if any one else has something to RANT about or something that an ex tried to do to them, let's hear about it. Revenge upon ex's are also welcome.

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Haven't expreienced and ex. Been married going on 19 years but what you did with that car was in the words of the cartoon dude on the Guinness commercial, BRILLIANT!
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don't even get me started lol I had a practice wife for 9 months. She lied to me the entire time we were together, kept an extra cell phone hidden from me, stole thousands of dollars from me, she won't give me back the wedding rings, won't talk to me, just up and bolted one day with no warning. Despite her having it planned for quite some time, she has now "taken over" the church we used to go to, she tells anyone who asks "yes we are seperated and it was my decision blah blah blah" She conveniently leaves out all the lying to me, all the taking from me, alll the deception, how she never really committed in the first place. Now she's draggin her feet on the divorce, won't tell me her plans etc. so I'm trying to get the $$ together to get it all over with. All this garbage from someone who professes to be Christian, makes a big deal out of church, even tells people I need to have better influences etc. in my life, like I'm the whole problem. Nothing I hate more than people who are inconsistent, except for chicken **** people who break up over the phone. She's 38 years old ??!?!?! What the heck is that?!! I graduated back in 89-90, I had no idea high school crap still carried over that far, I will mention she is also mentally ill (clinically depressed) and her and the rest of her family swap meds all the time, I knew about this before but gave it the benefit of a doubt, ooops, 9 months and a bunch of heartache and tons of money later I have learned my very costly lesson. I kpet asking her if she was feeling "OK", she was in complete denial, totally focused on me making some major change or something, so she planned everything out months in advance, stuck around a little while to see if I would be the one who changes (notice there is no "us" in this rant) and when I didn't she executed her plans flawlessly. I don't really hate her as much as I pity her, she is walking around in this fake reality thinking we are "only seperated" and that God is ok with it etc. As a Christian man myself, last I checked the Bible only mentions 2 reasons for divorce, adultery, and death. I'm still alive and there is no way I would EVER cheat on anyone, especially someone I promised myself too for the rest of my life. I didn't lie to her, didn't abuse her, I only hung in there trying to figure out ways to make thingd work, unofrtunately all those ways involved me turning into something I'm not. Someday she will be healthy for her annual 3 months and she will realize what happened, by then it will be far too late and I'm just glad I'm not the one who is going to have to deal with that, that is plenty of payback in itself, even though I'm not really into that. whew, that felt good!!
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i almost got married...she was pregnant with our baby and decided to have an abortion behind my back and then say it was a miscarriage. long story short she fell off a cliff and died. j/k. we later both matured some and realized some things, strangely enough i am somewhat friends with her again(speaking terms is more like it). i go an play poker with her and her new fiance every monday night at Main Event adn its weird but me and her new man get along great! he is a cool guy and i can't hold the fact that she is the devil against him! but we sit there and talk cars and all while playing paker and drinking and it just pisses her off that i get along with him!

i learned that i can't sit here and feel sorry for all the **** i've been through with her. granted it has taken about 3 years to move on but i ham so much happier now then i ever was. her family hates me and all for no good reason but i don't even care. i have my 8 and she is envious of me and my mature additude which makes things really sweet.

oh and i always take all her chips at poker!!!
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See there is some therapy when we get a chance to vent. I've felt better,after venting. When we separated for the second time, I pretty much kept it to myself and that was really eating me up inside. We first separated because I left her a note telling her that if she doesn't start cleaning up after herself and helping around the house, I was going to move out when our lease was up. She came and talked to me about two weeks after that and told me that she was going to move in with a friend of her's because she never lived on her own and this might give her a chance to grow up. Like living with someone else would help her live on her own??? So she moved out for a couple of months. She later moved back and everything was going fine. We currently have a 6 year old son together. I was working nights at the time, because the opportunity came up at work for me to switch tours so that one of us could be home during the day and watch our son. This also kept him from having to go to daycare at the time and then when he went to school, I was able to pick him up. This was fine for the time.
During the summer of 2003 she asked if a friend that she went to highschool with could come and stay with us for a couple of weeks. Since her friend was going to college in oklahoma and since I believed her, I said it was ok. So she moved in for about a month before I kicked them both out. I was getting the feeling that something was going on between my ex and her friend, so I confronted her. She confirmed my feelings that she and this girl were having an affair. Two days later, this guy calls my apt and asks to talk with my ex. and wanted to know who the hell I was. I told him that I was her husband and he told me that she had told him that she was already divorced. So I had a nice long discussion with him, (wasn't mad at him because he didn't know) After talking with him I told those two bitches to get the hell out. I had her name taken off the checking account and placed a secure password on the account so that she could not get any information or make changes to the account. She stiffed me with her cellphone bill (thank you - you T-Mobile bastards) of over $600. T-Mobile gave her a new account and let her keep the same phone number and gave all her long distance charges to me.
OKAY That's enough for me right now, I'll be back with the second part of this ongoing saga. By the way, we've been in divorce court since Feb of 2004.
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funny thing, my ex also is using t-mobile, are they like sponsoring psycho ex wives or something?
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Ok, I'll share.....my wife and I married on Nov 7th 2001. We moved into a nice townhome and started our life together. She was 24 and I was 26. We had been together for about 1.5 years prior to getting married. We met at work. After about 1 year of dating I proposed and of course she accepted. So, our wedding was set for November. We organized a destination wedding in Destin Florida. All our family and friends flew in. I even had family and friends travel from Europe for the wedding. Our day was awesome. It was fairytale, I was really in heaven. Things were great, I had an awesome job that I loved, making good money and married my best friend. After a few months things started to change...she was not working and that caused her to get really depressed. I was traveling alot for work, that made her even more depressed. I was trying my hardest to help her and support her. I honestly think she started to become bitter at me because I enjoyed my profession. Anyway, we argued and every argument went straight to her mom. Then her folks started to dislike me!! I would arrive home from work and her mom would be sitting in the living room wanting to speak to me about our marriage. I was freaked out by this!!

So in August 2002, we decide to buy a home. I wanted to cheer her up and felt this would help us. We move in and things appear to be making progress. She was trying to change me...my lifestyle, my outlook on things, my hobbies, my friends!! It was getting bad!! Did I mention she hated my parents!! Not sure why? Anyway, things get really bad. Then I started getting down!! So we go on a vacation back to the city we were married in. Things went all wrong!! We argued and argued and argued!! Brutal. Then I bought a new car, without her consent, not good!!

In early November 2002, I travel out of town for a business trip. I tried to call her but she would not answer or return my calls. I was worried!! I arrived home the night before our 1 year anniversary, bunch of flowers in hand and gift. The house was empty!! When I say empty, I mean nothing!! Even the celing fan was gone!! I was gutted. I contacted my folks for clarity and they informed me to contact my Credit card companies and the bank...she spent $2k on our Amex card in one day!! My bank account was almost cleaned out!! Brutal!! I know she was at her parents house but I could not contact her!! That was it...OVER. I promptly called a lawyer and filed for Divorce. Brutal!! Don't get me wrong, I was no angel, I had my moments, but I never abused her or had an affair. That's not me!!

We talk today, infact we almost got back together recently!! I need to move on.

Thanks for listening!! I needed this.

- Irish
Holy crap dujde, this sounds a lot like my situation, only mine ended before a house and all that got involved. I can tell you right now, I did the break up/make up thing only to end in disaster. Next time homechick calls, as much as it breaks my heart I'll be telling her sayonara, I'd suggest you do the same.
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Thanks canary!! I've already had that talk.

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I thought that I went through some rough times, but my experience is nothing compared to you guys. I'm sorry for everyone who's been through these types of situations, but at least it's nice to know we have a place to vent.

My horror story ended one year ago, but it's still worth telling. We had been together for almost 6 years and it was nothing but lies. I was going to school full time while working full time, earning my degree. He worked an 8-5 job and expected ME to do all the cleaning and chores, including cooking him dinner when I got home. Now explain this one to me: I was out of the house before him (by 7am) and didn't come home until 9pm, monday - friday. I spent every other waking moment studying for my classes. Did he do anything to help? No. I still raised 3 dogs and did EVERYTHING around the house, including fincances and looking for apartments/duplexes and arranging everything for the moves.

Ok, that's some background info, but here's where it gets bad (at the time and in my opinion). I was going to finish school in Dec 02 and in Nov 02, I told him that I had the opportunity for a great government job and he needed to quit all the bad stuff he was into (he had been doing drugs since before we started dating, I knew it and accepted it--call me crazy, I know). There were also some other things like going with me to family functions, and again, helping around the house, but the drugs were the main point. He said he would quit and fix the other stuff and man did he put on a show. For ONE WHOLE YEAR, he hid the fact that he had still been smoking pot and doing who knows what else. He says I caught him a couple times but he lied to cover it up and I believed it. The worst part? His entire family knew he was doing this and I acted like he didn't... I looked like such a fool in front of everyone and he put me and my career, that I had worked SO HARD for, in serious jeopardy. Needless to say, I left him and everything I knew in Grand Prairie and moved to Fort Worth. All I took was what I had coming into the relationship and my dog and I took a risk and moved in with a complete stranger, female, who has now become one of my best friends. It's all worked out for the better, and I wouldn't be who I am without that experience, but I'll never forgive him for all the lies. We used to talk and he says he realized it was all his fault, but I have no reason to talk to him anymore.

The best part--he thinks I'm the best thing that had ever happened to him (which I was) and he compares all of the girls he meets to me, and none of them compare.

What goes around, comes around. Karma will kick you in the ***, every time.
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What goes around, comes around. Karma will kick you in the ***, every time.
Very well said, between that and having to answer to God for their behavior, I really pity the future that these people have made for themselves. I'm certainly glad I can lay my head down at night and not have to think about all the lies I told somebody, and how bad I screwed someone over/broke someone's heart. When I go to sleep at night, I get to think about the future and the next person/people that will be introduced into my life Between that and having an 8 in the garage, and a place to stay, and a job etc. I'm very thankful for everything despite the heartache/hurt feelings etc. I look at adversity the same way I look at questions and answers, you can't have answers by themselves. So I see the trials, adversity, problems etc. as the questions, and then the rewards of enduring through it all as the answers. It seemed like my ex only wanted the answers, but never wanted to work through the questions.
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Holy crap, I am going to run upstairs and kiss my wife now. Reading things like this makes me appreciate her more then I admittingly do sometimes. We all have our moments but we have been married 19 years this April. That giddy feeling when you see the one you love has long passed but I think a marriage turns from lust and the like to comfortable and the other half just becomes a part of you. Like your fav pair of old shoes
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Well, I'm glad to see that there really was a use for this thread.
Second part of my on going saga...

This one will involve her 2002 VW Jetta. We went car shopping for her (while we were still married) and she picked out this black 2002 Jetta with the turbo charged 4 cyl. auto, leather interior, sunroof, dark tinted windows, spoiler, and rims. About $25K. We financed the car through my bank and arranged to have the payments taken out of my checking account. Shortly after she got her car, is when she moved out for the first time. (She said she needed to mature and that living on her own would help her do this, even though she was moving in with a female co-worker of hers). Long story short, she ended up moving back in because she was having problems with her car. Had the car towed to the dealership and it turns out that she had NEVER CHANGED THE F***ING OIL!!! This cost ME $2300 to get out of the shop. VW was nice enough to warranty the motor and only charged me for the labor and her rental car. She was suppose to have paid me back. Never happened.
After I kicked her out and we sepparated for the second time, I called her for her car payment. She had been consistantly late, and since it was coming out of my checking account , this was really putting a strain on me financially. She told me that her car was in the shop again and that she wasn't gonna pay on it anymore. I said ok, I need the keys then. I went to her apartment and she gave me the two sets that she had and the dealership had the third. I then went to the dealership to pick the car up and I put her car in storage. She had the nerve to call me and tell me that the guy that she had cheated on me with (Clayton) knew someone that was interested in buying the car and that I should call him. Clayton also called me and left me his number. I have all of this on the answering machine tape. Knowing that we were heading for divorce, I traded her Jetta in on my RX8 and had it titiled in my dad's name.
When we went to court, her laywer (female) told the judge(female) that I had repossessed her car and left her without any form of transportation. I told the judge that she had given me the keys and didn't want to pay on the vehicle anymore. The judge (did I already mention was female?) jumped my ***, because she had no transportation and what if something happened to my son while in her care!!! This totally blew my mind! I mean, what happens to everyone else in this world if you don't make your car payments, they come and take it. It's all a part of being a responsible adult. The way I saw it was that she had full use of her girlfriend's car (yes, they were now live in lesbians) and that's why she didn't want to pay on her car anymore. Anyhow, the Judge(must have been another lesbian) ordered me to give her half of my income tax refund $1100, so that she could use the money as a down payment on a car, which she didn't buy until recently (november of 2004). We went to court in Feb of 2004, so she didn't buy a car for about 10 months.
Well, that's all for me for now, I am feeling a little better. I'll share some more later, have to be going to sleep so I can enjoy the morning rush hour traffic for my commute to work.
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I have been there and done that too! I got married to a money hungry b**ch, who took care of the finances, BIG mistake. At one point I was making $15 an hour working for my grandmother and she told me to get a real job. So I signed on with a temp agency doing computer work making $20 and hour, wasn’t quite as stable but ended up making the same as the last job. When I came home it was always “how much money did you make” instead of “how was your day sweetheart” like it was before we got married. We also had agreed not to have any children till we were stable but she obviously wanted one soon since now I had one with her, because she stop taking her pills and didn’t tell me so she could get pregnant. I know, my fault too, but it wasn’t expected. I don’t know if it ever is :D Anyway, so I told her for six months that I wasn’t happy. She said she would change but it never happened. So I told her I didn’t want to be with her anymore because I knew she didn’t love and would always bring me down. Did she say of course I love you and beg for me to stay, like someone in love would do? Nope! She said okay and got a pad and pencil and started dividing our possessions. Then in the divorce I ended up paying for a lot of her bills, except the gas card because I found out later she was making trips to see her ex in Houston. So of course her family hates me because “I left her and the baby”, I would never leave my son! But now I see him every weekend and pay my child support. She lives with this guy now and when I asked her if she loves him she says “Well he’s buying me a house” well, guess she hasn’t changed. But I am happy now with a wonderful wife, anniversary coming up soon, and another son and couldn’t be happier! Oh by the way, I do the finances now :D
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dang there are some messed up people in this world, it's a wonder anybody finds anybody anymore. Good to see that some of these posts have a happy ending
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Wow, all I can say is that this thread reconfirms why I never want another g/f again. I'd say that all of you should of gone through some logical thought processes on your relationships but I spent 4 years being retarded and not thinking as well.
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I can start understanding why so many guys do the mail order bride route. I don't plan on getting married again unless I get something in writing that states that if we should get a divorce and that if I have to pay her any amount of money on a regular basis, she should have to perform some sort of sexual act for me so that I feel that I'm getting my money's worth. I can then leave the money on the night stand on my way out. :p
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Wow, all I can say is that this thread reconfirms why I never want another g/f again. I'd say that all of you should of gone through some logical thought processes on your relationships but I spent 4 years being retarded and not thinking as well.
Not trying to flame or be a jerk, but I couldn't disagree with you more, to give up is to be the victim of ultimate failure. Time heals everything, My hope for you is someday someone comes along and changes your mind about things
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Your not being a jerk or flaming. Do I view myself as a ultimate failure because I don't want a g/f or a wife? No. Do I think that just because the girl I was with was a big **** means all women are like that? Certainly not. Do I want to wade through all the trash that is out there to find a good one? No. Am I missing out? Probably. My attitude will probably (maybe) change, but at this time I don't miss not having a girlfriend. What I do wish is that I was able to talk/impress like Dr. Christian Troy of Nip/Tuck LOL. Then again i'm not a doctor and dont have a lambo.
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I in the same school of thought as Buzzardsluck. One of my New Year's resolutions was to quit being so nice. It seems that the years that I wasn't nice, I had more fun. Being nice sometimes really gets me depressed and I hate it. It leads people to take advantage of you and treat you like a push-over. I'm getting to the point that when I walk into some place and if I open the door for someone, they better say, "thank you" because I'm going to say "Your welcome" no matter what and then I'm gonna call you a jerk.
What women need to realize is that there are a lot of women out there that are looking for guys that well established, don't play games, and aren't jerks. Guess what? You have to look at you fellow females for the reason why most of the guys that are jerks are the way we are because we get tired of getting burned from being so nice.
Here's another thing that being nice and dependable get you. You become the back up plan, the sure thing. You get placed on the back burner because she knows that you'll be there for her if she can't find anyone else. They just are so stupid that they don't know how good they have it until Mr Dependable turns into Mr Jerk. All you stupid bitches can kiss my A$$.!!!
ok, i'm feeling better now.
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You guys are making me feel bad... I am by no means perfect and I'm sure I have hurt a man somewhere along the line. For this, and behalf of all the women who have hurt you men, I apologize. I hope you all can find someone who will love you and bring you happiness.
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The karma thing is right on. My Ex left 12 years ago...we had 2 small kids 2 and 4. She thought she had "Mr Perfect" in the new guy. She kept saying " I wish you were just like him"

Anyway...he stole her wedding rings, and pawned them to go to New York for a Stanley Cup game.

Since then she has realized that she had it pretty good when we were married.

Oh well....I found a wonderful woman, who I am happily married too....who loves me so much....man what a difference .
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guys and gals, please stop generalizing, it is a huge world out there and not all men/women are the same, the day you start thinking that "all men this" or "all women that" is the day you might as well just lay down and die. To have a new year's resolution to "quit being so nice" is insane, why let them have that victory over you? Just because someone hurt your feelings is no reason to change your behavior or change who you are. If you think people treat you badly because you're nice to them, try being an ******* to everyone and let me know how far you get. You teach people how to treat you, whether you're nice to them or not, it is possible to be assertive and firm without being a *****, but there's absolutely no need to quit being nice or whatever, that's just nuts. I just had all my dreams and hopes crushed in an instant, w/o warning, and I can tell you that I'm still being nice to people, and I've replaced those hopes and dreams with new ones. Am I upset and angry at my ex? of course! If I wasn't I'd begin to question my humanity, am I going to let her change how I behave towards people and let her cruelty harden my heart? Hell no, if anything I want to be even nicer to people, I want her to know that my life will get even better without her, it already has in a short amount of time, and I know it drives her nuts
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See, I really don't care what my ex-thinks or how she feels or any of that. The fact is this, I have to tolerate her because we have a child together and I know that I will have to tolerate her for a long time. What I do have planned for this year is to have sex with her girlfriend and then tell her about it. See, tolerance doesn't mean that I have forgiven or have forgotten, it means that I have to just tolerate. I didn't say that all girls are b*tches or that all girls are stupid. It seems that there are a lot of really nice stupid girls out there as well. The one's that I am refering to are the ones that keep going back to their boyfriends after he has cheated, abused, etc.... I still believe in the one on one relationship. I also believe that if you are inclined to cheat, you owe it to the other person to tell them BEFORE doing it, so that they can dump your sorry a$$.
For those of you that have had the good things happen to you in your life, congrats! I really mean it, count yourself as one of the lucky, blessed, karma possitive, etc. I am not being sarcastic either. I do at times miss the whole thing about being in a possitive relationship. Like the small things, gifts, telephone calls out of blue and whatever else. What I do have is this, I've been in three major relationships in my life and it seems that I've found a pattern. I treat them really good, buy them gifts out of the blue for no reason except that I was thinking about them and my end results have been the same. ALL THOSE LITTLE ****** ENDED UP CHEATING ON ME!!! It just keeps getting progressively worse. My first girlfriend cheated on me. My second girlfriend (dated her for three years and helped her raise her son who was only 6 months old when we first dated) who I helped pay for her college when we both went for a year together. We lived together for about 2 years ended up cheating on me. And now my third, who is my first ex-wife (so far only ex-wife) cheated on me with a guy and is now living with her second live in lesbian girlfriend is also causing me financial problems. So, no disrespect to anyone out there, I believe I have the right to be a little PI$$ED OFF!!
I'm really glad that I started this rant, it looks like I'll save a lot of money on therapy.

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Originally Posted by dazygirl415
You guys are making me feel bad... I am by no means perfect and I'm sure I have hurt a man somewhere along the line. For this, and behalf of all the women who have hurt you men, I apologize. I hope you all can find someone who will love you and bring you happiness.
unfortunately it does go both ways. i have done the hurting before and i'm not proud of it but i have done it. karma is a bitch cause i have since been cursed to be alone or find crazy girls that are draining the life out of me.

so on behalf of all men that have been asses i appologize.

with that said and done...i now try to just have fun and let things happen as they do. i'm alive and somewhat healthy, i have a roof over my head and my 8, and my sense of humor...maybe thats all i need right now(especially the 8!). we speed bumps in life all the time. it happens and you can either be a like a slammed civic and get caught up on them or move on...i think that was some attempt at comparing life to cars. i'll stop now.


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