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Old 09-09-2009, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by YaXMaNGTO
And maybe try "Automotive Specialists" in Round Rock, and ask to speak with John (Long) the owner and Mazda guru. He knows the RX8 very, very, very well.

He'll be able to help, might be a little less expensive, and will do a perfect job.
I'd definitely go this route, or try Boost Logic, BL may primarily be a Supra shop and all, but they do know their stuff and would probably help you. I'd trust them or John fo sho, John helped me with my brakes a while back when no other shop in town would give me the time of day. I know too many people who have had issue with ptp and mzm, either with shoddy work, and/or shady business practices. just my opinion though, if adam has had good luck maybe things have changed?
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I'd definitely go this route, or try Boost Logic, BL may primarily be a Supra shop and all, but they do know their stuff and would probably help you. I'd trust them or John fo sho, John helped me with my brakes a while back when no other shop in town would give me the time of day. I know too many people who have had issue with ptp and mzm, either with shoddy work, and/or shady business practices. just my opinion though, if adam has had good luck maybe things have changed?
Their customer service sucks *** though. I usually only deal with one guy, Jon, but even if I walk in and Jons not at the desk and there is 4 guys sitting there, not one of them will approach to serve me. Its rediculous. That is why I always hit up Jon on AIM before I go down there so he knows Im coming. Once my car is fully done, need to put injectors in and order BHR ignition, I am going to have Jon tune my car. I wouldnt mind MM doing the final product but I dont like the idea of having a locked tune on my car forever. If I need to change something, I want the capability.
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i am on the wall with ptp, jon is a great guy helped me find fittings for the original greddy turbo, i had the car repainted there did a amazing job on color matching but ive found a pretty big paint defect on the rear(didnt realize they repainted the entire side of the car) .

maybe they will fix it dont know haven't had time to go back may have been to long

agg i am being lazy i need to patch my manifold ~_~
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whatever works I guess, I just know we've had a lot of complaints on here and from TexasRxs members about how they do things so buyer beware and all that. Me personally, I'd be going with boost logic or traveling to wherever Steve Khan is, I mean, if you're going through all the time and expense you might as well go ***** out right?
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heh, didnt realize that, i never particularly cared for them. Just not many shops in austin. Friend of a friend who used to work at gotham racing is pretty good but he does most of everything in his garage now >_>
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which shop is john at the round rock or the georgetown shop ?


edit: hmm seems they dont want to work on it,

"Mr. Little, my name is Jonathan and I work at Automotive Specialist. About your cast iron manifold, cas iron cannot be welded by any standard means; mig, tig, braze, stick, etc.
It can be welded but the manifold has to be heated in an oven almost back to liquid state, then welded, and then reheated, this process is usually more expensive than a new manifold."


actually i think it can be brazed >_> but not sure how well that would stand to the temp it would go though

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well i ran into this guy who was selling an 86 iroc camero and turns out he owns a custom shop that does everything i might try him out any of you hear about revolution rides? collin treanor is the guy that gave me the card
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OH and this is just an question on style what would you guys think of old retro mesh rims on an rx8? I haven't seen it and I think I could be pretty original if i got some
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Originally Posted by czar
which shop is john at the round rock or the georgetown shop ?


edit: hmm seems they dont want to work on it,

"Mr. Little, my name is Jonathan and I work at Automotive Specialist. About your cast iron manifold, cas iron cannot be welded by any standard means; mig, tig, braze, stick, etc.
It can be welded but the manifold has to be heated in an oven almost back to liquid state, then welded, and then reheated, this process is usually more expensive than a new manifold."


actually i think it can be brazed >_> but not sure how well that would stand to the temp it would go though
If John says "to do it right" you have to go through that mult-step welding process, I bet that's right.

In order to braze it, you have to heat the case iron to a very high temperature at the localized area where the crack is. It can cause the manifold to crack worse or warp. In order to do it, you have to heat the entire manifold and allow the metal to do its natural cubic exapansion without restriction, and then do the repair while it's hot.

But I just learned about this, so, I'm no pro... maybe somebody else knows, but I figure if that manifold has to support that much weight, it's got to be done right.
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I can acturaly tell you, my friends manifold I used when we found the crack on mine was properly welded but managed to crack during the install O_O. IT was slowly heated then welded then put in a box of sand to extend the cool down.


I hate this manifold....


also I realy need a exasuht this 100$ obx junk sounds like a civic with a fart can
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What have you guys been up too in this rain? anyone spin out yet?
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no spin outs here just wet, killing time trying to aim my tweeters, not sure if its because they are just stuck on behind the cover, i cant seem to get it to balance with the passenger side.
Old 09-23-2009, 09:18 AM
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drifting?!?! i wasn't drifting! who drifts! that's dangerous! never be tempted to drift in an empty parking lot!...wait, did you mention drifting??
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speaking of drifting my tires hate rain .... i due it to the weird thread pattern that probably should be uni directional but isnt.

o well tires to expensive to change right now, i want to redo the suspension like i was originally planing.

i am giving mm till the one year mark before i make comments, but not getting a reply back is starting to be screwed up

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whats everyone up to this weekend ? phantom hows the car running havent heard anything from you? or are u in jail for going to fast ^_^ in that bnr turbo car of yours
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Well, obviously the car tuning world must be doing incredible cause I have called/emailed 5 tuning shops and 4 of them wont call back/ write back. I want the car to be ready for when my parents come out the first week of October, but its not looking like it will happen. I even tried to bribe MM with money to put me first in line to finish my tune but he never responded. Not sure if he put me in the back of the line or is still working on it. I only need the timing table from him. I finished the rest of the tune. Its been 19 days. Just SO sick of the car not being tuned. 4 months working on it and I still cant drive the god damn thing.
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lol, ive attempted to bribe mm to just respond and finish up my turbo. from the last update i didnt think he was far from completion but meh o well.


I think it will be all worth it once i am complete. just not getting a reply back is really frustrating.

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We got way behind over here for a multitude of reasons, none of which are particularly good ones.
Since acquiring an assistant, things have started moving again, but progress is a bit slow.
Your actual turbo is here and is flanged. Your injectors and installation hardware is here too.
I just need to fabricate your support hardware (wastegate, oil drain, etc.) and get your "soft" parts.

I apologize for the long, long wait. I'll try to keep you better informed as we get closer to shipping.

Thanks for your incredible patience.

- Jeff
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acturaly thinking of it, since you want to make your own tune, hit up kane to see if he can get you started.

realy want to try out his software, but alas i dont have access anymore DOH!
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last response may:

We got way behind over here for a multitude of reasons, none of which are particularly good ones.
Since acquiring an assistant, things have started moving again, but progress is a bit slow.
Your actual turbo is here and is flanged. Your injectors and installation hardware is here too.
I just need to fabricate your support hardware (wastegate, oil drain, etc.) and get your "soft" parts.

I apologize for the long, long wait. I'll try to keep you better informed as we get closer to shipping.

Thanks for your incredible patience.

- Jeff

Damn man, thats bull **** you havent had any word of anything since May. Did you try PMing Hund?? Thats his assistant. She updated me pretty quick about my AP. I am trying to make my own tune because I dont want it locked, like the one MM sends out. I sent him my logs cause I just want to see what his tune feels like compared to a dyno tune, and plus I really didnt want to spend the money now to get dyno tuned because I dont have all my parts on the car yet. So I was gonna wait till it was complete before I dropped the money and dynod it. But if its gonna take 3 months to get my car tuned by MM, I would rather pay for 2 dynos, one now, one when its finished. I just want to drive my car! I just dont understand how the timing works. Looks like it sees negative timing, and I dont know how that works.
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pm hund once or twice , no response


do these look normal for idle ?

Seconds (sec) Equiv. Ratio (AFR) RPM (RPM) Engine Load (%) Long Term FT1 (%) Mass Airflow (g/s) Short Term FT1 (%) Vehicle Speed (mph)
0 14.7 836 21.95 1.4 4.89 2.96 0
0.1 14.7 839 21.95 1.4 4.89 2.96 0
0.24 14.7 834 21.95 1.4 4.84 2.96 0
0.36 14.7 835 21.95 1.4 4.89 2.96 0
0.51 14.7 834 22.34 1.4 4.95 2.96 0
0.64 14.7 837 22.34 1.4 4.78 2.96 0
0.76 14.7 842 21.95 1.4 4.86 2.96 0
0.87 14.7 844 21.95 1.4 4.89 2.96 0
1.01 14.7 839 21.95 1.4 4.84 2.96 0
1.14 14.7 836 21.95 1.4 4.86 2.18 0
1.27 14.7 836 21.95 1.4 4.89 2.18 0
1.39 14.7 828 22.34 1.4 4.84 2.18 0
1.52 14.7 832 22.34 1.4 4.84 2.18 0
1.64 14.7 839 21.95 1.4 4.86 2.18 0
1.77 14.7 835 22.34 1.4 4.89 2.18 0
1.89 14.7 830 22.34 1.4 4.89 2.18 0
2 14.7 831 22.34 1.4 4.89 2.18 0
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Is that stock?? Its not horrible but it could be a lot better. How long was the car running before you pushed start on the Cobb? You want your STFT to be 0. Basically what those are saying is you have a commanded AFR of 14.6. The STFT is the representation of how much fuel the computer is adding or subtracting to hit that given value. In your case, the computer is adding fuel so your MAF is going to need a little work. Ill help you do it if you want. LTFT is nothing at idle. Those are your cruising trims.
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base map,

i was just checking if those numbers looked weird, i keep thinking i left a vacuum line off or something.


this was after driving around stoping at a light idle for a bit and recorded
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If thats stock then I would say thats ok. If I paid for that tune, Id be pissed!! Lol! The numbers are like that because the car is sold in multiple climates, difference in gas (91 and 93) Its just a very safe and rich tune, I wouldnt be concerned. Wait, you mean base tune as in MM or stock??
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mm base map, aka what i asume is a factory map with fan temp adjustments along with cel disables


aggg bored nothing to do, time to passout, lol my dinner involved lots of chips and margaritas

next weekend i plan to drive back to dallas to have a friend either have my greddy manifold repaired or have him "attempt" to make me a tubular set up that fits in the greddys spot. have to ask another friend to borrow his turbo up so i can show him that it aint going to be as easy as he thinks

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I was hoping to go up to Dallas on Monday and have Brian D. Cain tune my car. We started to have an email conversation about tuning my car and he said he had never worked with Cobb but would be interested in getting some experience with it on my car and would not charge me for a full dyno tune. I asked if I could come up on Monday and he never wrote back. Guess he dont need the money.....


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