Are You Boycotting BP?
06-05-2010, 07:55 AM
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I agree in part Chad.
However, I think that part of the reason is that a 'boycott' of BP won't affect BP unless it is near universal, and even then it might not. Realistically, the only way it can happen effectively is the individual station owners under whatever brand label, find a way out of the BP contracts that they have, and simply not do business with them any more. But it is hard for someone to willingly give up their source of income hoping to find another.
Personally, I 'boycott' every brand other than Shell, cause I like my VPower.
I think this will pan out different than prior corporate shambles. After Enron, Wall Street, and Detroit car makers, I don't think the American people, or the legislators can stomach a mild rebuke any more. A change is in the wind in regard to how corporations are treated, for better or worse I do not know. Even "big oil" that floods so much money into politics won't come into play here I think. Politically, it would be suicide to accept donations or compensation right now from oil companies to mitigate the backlash on BP, if not outright criminal.
I don't want to turn this political though. I hate politics.
No, BP will be hammered, and hammered hard here.
I do agree with the collection tankers as well. no reason they shouldn't have the ability to put a big funnel over the spout and start pumping like crazy. We are up to what...2 tanker's worth so far? Not exactly impossible volumes.
However, I think that part of the reason is that a 'boycott' of BP won't affect BP unless it is near universal, and even then it might not. Realistically, the only way it can happen effectively is the individual station owners under whatever brand label, find a way out of the BP contracts that they have, and simply not do business with them any more. But it is hard for someone to willingly give up their source of income hoping to find another.
Personally, I 'boycott' every brand other than Shell, cause I like my VPower.
I think this will pan out different than prior corporate shambles. After Enron, Wall Street, and Detroit car makers, I don't think the American people, or the legislators can stomach a mild rebuke any more. A change is in the wind in regard to how corporations are treated, for better or worse I do not know. Even "big oil" that floods so much money into politics won't come into play here I think. Politically, it would be suicide to accept donations or compensation right now from oil companies to mitigate the backlash on BP, if not outright criminal.
I don't want to turn this political though. I hate politics.
No, BP will be hammered, and hammered hard here.
I do agree with the collection tankers as well. no reason they shouldn't have the ability to put a big funnel over the spout and start pumping like crazy. We are up to what...2 tanker's worth so far? Not exactly impossible volumes.
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06-05-2010, 08:12 AM
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Also remember that boycotting BP only kills the independent owners who run the majority of the gas stations. BP the company will see little to no effect from a boycott - because they can still sell their gas to other companies without you knowing about it.
As far as the OP question, I am not boycotting BP for this reason. Even if I did, I only go to Shell so my boycott would have little to no effect anyway.
As far as the OP question, I am not boycotting BP for this reason. Even if I did, I only go to Shell so my boycott would have little to no effect anyway.
06-05-2010, 08:17 AM
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---for sure, BP is the fourth largest company in the world. They need to get a message though (loss of revenue gets oil guru's attention). I think it's funny in the US BP markets themselves as Beyond Petrolium. wtf? They can't even let americans know thay are Britain Petrolium? BP is also the biggest polluter among the corporate collaboration in Albera in the oil sands region. Let's not forget that Canada is America's biggest oil supplier. The environment they trash is our environment. They sometimes seem to be lawless worldwide.
edit--even if you purchase gas from another supplier that resells BP fuel, BP earns much less revenue being a distributor to a US run gas station than as a distro/retailer. I hate BP and use Petro-Canada/Shell. My boycott goes nowhere fast b/c I already started 4 years ago. F-BP.
edit--even if you purchase gas from another supplier that resells BP fuel, BP earns much less revenue being a distributor to a US run gas station than as a distro/retailer. I hate BP and use Petro-Canada/Shell. My boycott goes nowhere fast b/c I already started 4 years ago. F-BP.
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06-05-2010, 09:38 AM
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---for sure, BP is the fourth largest company in the world. They need to get a message though (loss of revenue gets oil guru's attention). I think it's funny in the US BP markets themselves as Beyond Petrolium. wtf? They can't even let americans know thay are Britain Petrolium? BP is also the biggest polluter among the corporate collaboration in Albera in the oil sands region. Let's not forget that Canada is America's biggest oil supplier. The environment they trash is our environment. They sometimes seem to be lawless worldwide.
edit--even if you purchase gas from another supplier that resells BP fuel, BP earns much less revenue being a distributor to a US run gas station than as a distro/retailer. I hate BP and use Petro-Canada/Shell. My boycott goes nowhere fast b/c I already started 4 years ago. F-BP.
edit--even if you purchase gas from another supplier that resells BP fuel, BP earns much less revenue being a distributor to a US run gas station than as a distro/retailer. I hate BP and use Petro-Canada/Shell. My boycott goes nowhere fast b/c I already started 4 years ago. F-BP.
06-05-2010, 10:40 AM
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Funny every single tv and magazine ad I have seen in the past two-three years totally eliminate the word british.
see for yourself-new ads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rklKyFMUME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8liOn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhxFn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZiEM...eature=related
see for yourself-new ads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rklKyFMUME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8liOn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhxFn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZiEM...eature=related
06-05-2010, 11:39 AM
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That MSNBC video at the front there is pretty amazing. I didn't know about that (before my time) it is amazing what the news does to us these days. Curious though, did it go up the east coast of florida last time?
06-05-2010, 11:56 AM
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Yea its ARCO out here in SoCal they have a very small graphic on the sign that says "A BP Company". I stopped using ARCO gas a long time ago. Now only Shell or Chevron.
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06-05-2010, 11:41 PM
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haha^^
Just saw on the perfectly correct unbiased information filled news that theres some dumbasses in ATL (im in metro) out front of some BP stations saying the US government needs to seize BP to make up for environmental damage
Just saw on the perfectly correct unbiased information filled news that theres some dumbasses in ATL (im in metro) out front of some BP stations saying the US government needs to seize BP to make up for environmental damage
06-06-2010, 12:57 AM
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06-12-2010, 01:51 PM
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HAHAHA!
BP is a HUGE international company. This spill will not even make a 2% bump in their bottom line.
Nor are they really the ones at fault. The drilling company that didn't allow the concrete to set for the proper length of time are at fault.
But because BP was leasing this well they are stuck with the blame.
boycotting the company will do nothing.
BP is a HUGE international company. This spill will not even make a 2% bump in their bottom line.
Nor are they really the ones at fault. The drilling company that didn't allow the concrete to set for the proper length of time are at fault.
But because BP was leasing this well they are stuck with the blame.
boycotting the company will do nothing.
Yay Green Peace!
06-12-2010, 02:02 PM
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Yay Americans!
06-12-2010, 02:13 PM
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There is plenty of blame to spread around on this one.
This was on someones list as the 43rd largest in history. By the news reports, you would think it was the end of the Earth. A few years ago, the Mexicans had a larger one in the Gulf. You didn't hear about that one. There was no political gain.
...and the hundreds of thousands of signatures on petitions by us resedents that didn't want to see them because their property value would go down and it would be unsightly. Robotic machinery is needed, 11 have died and they can't afford any more. Fixing a well is totally different underwater.
Yay Americans!
Yay Americans!
06-12-2010, 02:17 PM
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Politicians pass laws based upon whether or not they will get re-elected so Green peace puts it in peoples heads that shallow water drilling is not good for anyone and these residents and votes then use this sentiment to get politicians to do as they please.
06-12-2010, 02:19 PM
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There is plenty of blame to spread around on this one.
This was on someones list as the 43rd largest in history. By the news reports, you would think it was the end of the Earth. A few years ago, the Mexicans had a larger one in the Gulf. You didn't hear about that one. There was no political gain.
This was on someones list as the 43rd largest in history. By the news reports, you would think it was the end of the Earth. A few years ago, the Mexicans had a larger one in the Gulf. You didn't hear about that one. There was no political gain.
This is already on the top ten list of off shore oil disasters (don't know where you are getting the 43rd from). Use the re-estimates of what was actually spilling vs. what BP said or NOAA said.
06-12-2010, 03:20 PM
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I don't frequent BP, so there is nothing to boycott...
With that said, the cleanup cost is estimated to be around 1 billion by some, others state it will be 5 billion when it's all said and done.
Example:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/ju...l-spill-costs/
If true, BP can wipe their *** with that amount of cash. Furthermore BP doesn't owe a lot of money, so they could borrow it if they had to.
On the other hand, some people think this is going to end up costing them 80+ billion. I wouldn't be as optimistic on the company if it is that far in the red.
With that said, the cleanup cost is estimated to be around 1 billion by some, others state it will be 5 billion when it's all said and done.
Example:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/ju...l-spill-costs/
If true, BP can wipe their *** with that amount of cash. Furthermore BP doesn't owe a lot of money, so they could borrow it if they had to.
On the other hand, some people think this is going to end up costing them 80+ billion. I wouldn't be as optimistic on the company if it is that far in the red.