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Old 06-03-2010, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AJRx892
thanks i am enlightened to my shortcomings on this subject.
Sorry, not trying to be a smart@ss. I've just been wrapped up in this stuff at work for the last 5 weeks and I can't seem to escape it. It just irks me when I see bad information. No offense, just trying to clear the air to anyone who does not know how this stuff works.

That being said, I'm still using BP gas. I think this is more to blame on Transocean than BP, they were the drillers in the operation and should be held responsible for their short-cuts. Much like a car company can be held liable for faulty equipment installed in a car that they sell, regardless if the car is actually owned by you or leased from the bank.
Old 06-03-2010, 09:59 AM
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oh its no problem id rather have someone point out where im wrong then walk around believing im right
Old 06-03-2010, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ODDDOOD
Sorry, not trying to be a smart@ss. I've just been wrapped up in this stuff at work for the last 5 weeks and I can't seem to escape it. It just irks me when I see bad information. No offense, just trying to clear the air to anyone who does not know how this stuff works.

That being said, I'm still using BP gas. I think this is more to blame on Transocean than BP, they were the drillers in the operation and should be held responsible for their short-cuts. Much like a car company can be held liable for faulty equipment installed in a car that they sell, regardless if the car is actually owned by you or leased from the bank.
BP had a Supervisor on site that was telling them what to do. There has been reports that the Transocean personnel wanted proceed in a different manner, before the explosion, than they were being directed to by the BP "company man".
What I don't understand is they were trying to shutdown the well. And, there is all this oil still there?
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nevermind i was wrong. but the reports about the supervisor ive heard

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Old 06-03-2010, 04:00 PM
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Well i only buy Shell V-Power.... but if i can't then i go Sunoco.


Im pretty sure BP will be selling off a significant portion of their assets to stay in the game. If they do, that usually means they are coming to the end of their line and will most likely be bought out.

I just hope that the damn oil stays away from the east coast of Florida.... THAT's WHERE I VACATION!!!!! DAMMIT!
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im goin to the pensacola in the panhandle in a couple weeks its where all my family is... i hope it doesnt affect thos ebeaches too bad not becuase ill be there but its becuase its my home
Old 06-03-2010, 04:18 PM
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Yea the part thats mostly going to hurt them the most here is all the people sueing them. All those fisheries ruined, all the tourist attractions that no one will want to come see this summer because of all the oil on the beaches...

But i agree, not buying BP gas is only hurting small business owners who have nothing to do with this, they are just trying to make a living and support their families.
Old 06-04-2010, 03:47 AM
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Really sick of hearing about this oil spill, people complaining about it. Jesus, like you aren't using the **** to drive to work everyday. This is the 34th biggest oil spill in history; didn't hear anyone complaining about the 91 spill that covered 4000 square miles and was 4 inches thick. Guess because it wasn't on the coast of poor poor New Orleans; no one notices till it's on our front doorstep.....grow up.

I have never used BP anyway...there are none in my area.
Old 06-04-2010, 04:42 AM
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I'm boycotting them simply because of their half *** attempt to block it. They want to pump it out not cap it. I believe their faliure to stop it was not very honest. And 34th so far on the all time list is huge when it is in the water with hurricane season on the way. This kind of **** is a disgrace.
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Originally Posted by faith&firepower
I have never used BP anyway...there are none in my area.
ARCO is a BP brand. There are BP/ARCO stations all over the US.
Old 06-04-2010, 11:21 AM
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Largest Oil Spills: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_spi...est_oil_spills

Is there a classified list of oil spills somewhere that makes Deepwater Horizon the 34th largest oil spill?
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Speaking for myself, I hold BP responsible for the damages of this spill. Having said that, I'm strongly rooting for them to cap an oil well a mile underwater just to shut Barack "Been There From Day One" Obama's mouth. While the federal government has a regulatory role in this, they've done exactly jack to help solve the problem and are arguably at least as culpable as BP for damages. The Obama administration has used this as a thinly, poorly veiled excuse to pull and deny offshore drilling permits, and there is good argument to be made that the policies of environmental activists have pushed oil drilling out into deep water where problems are more difficult to handle than shallow water or land-based drilling. If this well had popped in ANWAR, I guarantee it would be capped in no time at all. As it is, I think they're doing a passable job at addressing the problem considering the conditions they have to work under. I pray for everyone's sake that this is resolved before hurricane season makes it impossible to maintain ships on station.

Solve the problem first, dispense blame later. There is no freaking excuse to have the head of Homeland Security commenting on this. Statesmen know the problem is everyone's and work to fix it; political wonks point fingers lay blame, making the going all that harder for those trying to fix the problems. Very obvious which ones we have directing national policy and response right now; they're the ones actively making the environmental impact worse by refusing to act on good plans such as those by LA Gov. Bobby Jindal to build sand barriers to hold the oil off the marshes; again, there is no excuse for such foot dragging in such an emergency unless it involves incompetence, politics, or both.

I'm still buying BP. Of the major brands, my cars seem to like it the best, and I want to be double certain none of my money goes to Venezuala. I don't believe for a second any of the other oil companies are any less likely to have a similar problem. Boycotting BP is going to do nothing to see that the Louisiana (and Alabama, and Florida) coastal regions and economies are compensated and redressed. BP deserves to be held accountable, but first, they need all the support that can be given to stem this flow.

Just sayin'.

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NO, I love BP gas, or at least my 8 does ! ! !

I hope everyone else does so they can lower the gas price for me ! ! !
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I've got no problem with drilling. I've got no problem with deep-water drilling. What I have a problem with is the obvious lack of risk management going on. That's BP, Transocean, and the Feds who want to regulate everything these days but didn't seem to mandate any kind of plan for this. Face it, there are ZERO workable alternative energies available to replace oil*, not now, not in 10 years barring something unforeseen. Yes, we should be researching this, and we are, but it's a complete farce to think we can just stop using oil. If we're not drilling, we'll be shipping it, which I think is generally more prone to spills. And if we're shipping it, it's being drilled somewhere. Hell, we've got the Chinese down by Cuba, "drinking our milkshake." Anyone honestly think they're going to be more safety-conscious than BP?

*There should be an exception. Nuclear energy...only the people who keep clamoring about getting off oil are also violently opposed to the construction of new nuclear reactors. Had we not as a nation completely overreacted to Three Mile Island, we might not have been so dependent on oil now, but that ship has sailed.
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Originally Posted by faith&firepower
Really sick of hearing about this oil spill, people complaining about it. Jesus, like you aren't using the **** to drive to work everyday. This is the 34th biggest oil spill in history; didn't hear anyone complaining about the 91 spill that covered 4000 square miles and was 4 inches thick. Guess because it wasn't on the coast of poor poor New Orleans; no one notices till it's on our front doorstep.....grow up.

I have never used BP anyway...there are none in my area.
Amen, bro, amen.
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Originally Posted by Mazurfer
Of course no matter what the Government says..............we all know who's going to end up paying for most of this in the long run right?
Let me take a wild guess...
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That being said, I don't think it matters on our end. BP is finished. Their stations and fuel will live on in whatever company buys them, but they will not be able to recover from this. Exxon took 20+(?) years to recover from Valdez, if they really have at all, and that was a massive spill that was relatively contained by a geologically small bay. Sure, it crippled the people of Valdez, and that is lamentable, but the length of affected coastline and the number of affected people, and the size of the affect on individual industries was negligible compared to this mess.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...anies/profits/

I think its pretty safe to say that Exxon Mobil has recovered. Highest profits in the world in 2009, and second highest revenue.
Old 06-04-2010, 01:29 PM
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I also have no Arco or what ever that company is called.
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Originally Posted by AJRx892
im goin to the pensacola in the panhandle in a couple weeks its where all my family is... i hope it doesnt affect thos ebeaches too bad not becuase ill be there but its becuase its my home
Too late



I feel it's like the pot is calling the kettle black (in my case). They need to be held responsible for the oil spill, just as I need to be held responsible for running w/ no cat and polluting the atmosphere. Sure it's on a different catastrophic level, but I am making a conscientious decision to pollute where maybe the arrogant bastard of a BP person on the oil rig made an accidental decision and now we are stuck with this dilemma.

I'm not taking BP's side, they are fully responsible, and IMO they won't go bankrupt.
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BP is one of the largest oil companies in the world. This is a setback but in no way are they going to go out of business over it. This stuff unfortunately happens. You can get mad at them for not being able to stop it or you can get off your ***, climb in your submarine, and use your own solution to stop it. It's really that simple. It's easy to get mad when you aren't the one trying to do the work 5000 feet under water where pressure is about 2200 psi. Don't get mad at the company. Get mad at the incompetent workers who did shoddy work in the name of being lazy and wanting to take shortcuts. This happens at every business in every line of work. The difference is that most of the time people get away with it and the consequences usually aren't that serious which is why they do it in the first place. I'm not happy about the spill but I am realistic about it. It's an accident. No one intends for accidents to happen. When they do you can only deal with it the best you can.

I for one am watching BP stock like a Hawk as it drops. I know good and well that they are still going to be around when this is finally over and that at some point in the future that stock is going to go flying back up again. They are also one of the biggest players in the alternative energy arena so they will still exist long after oil is phased out.
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I'm not boycotting BP.
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Originally Posted by rotarygod

...I for one am watching BP stock like a Hawk as it drops. I know good and well that they are still going to be around when this is finally over and that at some point in the future that stock is going to go flying back up again. They are also one of the biggest players in the alternative energy arena so they will still exist long after oil is phased out.
My thoughts exactly. While I believe they are liable for the damages of this accident, I don't think the company is a fraction as bad as they are being portrayed to be. I think of them as the Distraction of the Week, much like Toyota was a month ago, sort of a shiny media object to distract attention from other extremely consequential and decidedly more important issues.
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Agreed^^

Originally Posted by BlackRX82006
Too late




not really im not saying let my visit to my family be messed up but the beaches in the long run its not too late for that although in time it probably will be latest reports say its only a couple miles offshore
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I am not Boycotting BP...my 8 likes it and Mobil..

BUT, what gets me is the USA can fly a man to the moon (many times), go to mars, but BP and those in the know can't or were not prepared for any real deep water oil/crude incident.

For whatever reason their blow out/off valve (s) failed, ALL the "methods" to Stop this have been used BEFORE and have failed, so what is next BP?.

What I can't understand is why is there not a Company or Oil Companies which have a fleet of Surface Collection Tankers?, you can't tell me to engineer and design a large tanker with some form of hydraulic opening gate at the bow which could scoop and separate the oil and sea water collecting the crude.

Sure you won't get 100% of the Oil but they could aim for 70%, sure a lot depends on Weather conditions and location etc.

To let ALL this oil just beach itself and seeing ALL the wildlife dieing with crude all over them is what will kill BP..

DON'T underestimate the Power of Images....

BTW...Why is it that Gas prices have not rocketed because of this event...It usually does, so what is different??
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I think it's strange that so many americans are not boycotting a foreign company that has caused such a travesty. BTW, this is THE projected biggest oil spill ever in the world, and you have 17 states (started by the us government) boycotting Canadian oil because it causes too much pollution! Honestly I am really pissed that no control valves were installed in the first place, they have them on the offshore rig off the coast of New Brunswick. And the Sandtar fields in Alberta are a mess but nothing like this would ever happen. Hopefully they have some shutoff valves on the Mackenzie Valley Pipeline.
With all of the American Companies to choose from you should really be ashamed of yourselves for the continuing support of a foreign company that doesn't want to compromise profit over commiting to stopping the flow. They seem to do whatever to keep it flowing so they can continue to pump from that well in the future.
Let me say this again, the US gov has restrictions and states such as California boycotts Canadian oil because of the harm to the environment, but no such feelings toward the UK for this.
Money over matter. More and Faster. Bigger and Better. Cost of Control. The American Way!

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