RojoOcho

It's suppose to be about comparing acceleration... not racing.

Rotary Rasp

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I'm not going to take the time to read all 70ish posts. Looking at the interwebs for your facts means nothing to me because I've raced several on the freeway. They were all the v6 version and at highway speeds they are slow.

jones75254

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Well, I took the time to read the title and it comes down to this:

Dont run against a Camry, or any cars similar, its a lose/lose situation. If you beat it, big deal, its a Camry and u wasted gas and looked like a fool. If you lose, you just got beat by a Camry, wasted gas and looked like a fool.

If ur gonna be bold enough to make a run against something (in a safe environment) just for some fun, at least make it something you dont look completely ridiculous losing to and one that you MAY have a chance at keeping up with and on occasion, besting (ie. Z's, G's, GTI's/R32's, Si's, ect.).

playdoh43

this article is not about running vs car X or car Y on the street, its just about that family cars like camery v6s are now faster than the rx8 in the straight line. which imho is only natural, in a few years they will be faster than the 350z etc also. it dosnt mean anyone need to go out and start racing them.

RojoOcho

all these racing posts... we are talking about accelerating not racing... you're trying to get this thread killed

Kafka

As the OP I can say my post bring out the "A live my life a quarter pounder at a time" folks from the closet.

I was thinking everyone should just read the article, have a good laugh and move on since we all know Rx8 is not about straigline speed. The highlight was the R8 vs AMG Wagon race...

However, since everyone getting so defensive, I have no choice but to ask the mod to close this thread.

I apologize for bringing out the worst in some of you...the insecure part

Until then, I wish I am faster than a <insert any family sedan with V6 cira 2008> :P

RojoOcho

It's all good man...

DailyDriver2k5

Isn't ironic that we buy mods for our car to go fast, but once these mods are installed we still drive like grandma's? I know i am assuming! But i think its so funny we buy fast cars/sports car/performance car and the only place we can drive fast is at the track?

News flash people you can kill people if your going 5 mph or your going 150mph. Yes i don't recommend going fast, racing , or playing cat and mouse in heavy traffic, or heavily pedestrian areas, etc. Its all about having a sound mind, and knowing when to go fast or not to go fast. One of you mentioned that its immature not to turn down a invite to speed. Most of the time, i do, esepcially if its unsafe . But I am no saint either , I like to speed. Unlike the majority of you hear who preach about"I don't race my car or I don't drive fast out in public" for some reason i highly doubt it.....

Its like me buying my Z-06 just to go back and forth to the grocery store..... Then i just blew a load a cash on the right car for the wrong purpouse. And to me that is criminal....

jzief128

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I enjoy driving my car hard and having a good time on the road, but you don't need to be racing to do that. You are talking about winning or losing races on public streets. Drive hard all you want, just don't race others and endanger the lives of everyone around you. Also, everyone speeds, that is true, but when you are talking about about going 135 mph to "win a race", that is a bit excessive.

Also, please tell me how the following isn't dangerous:

Please, take it to the track.

RojoOcho

I agree. Again. We are talking solely about acceleration. Not racing.

DailyDriver2k5

Doing the 135 was on a open highway between cities,very little if any traffic was present , dangerous yes, i won't argue that. The cat and mouse situation, was more dangerous...shouldn't have been doing that. Like I said ,I am working on it....

Like you said soon looking to get back at some track action.... but i think i will be getting back into 120mph touch and go go-cart action real soon. Hopefully this should curve my speed addiction some....

seattle

like this site.

http://www.turbominivan.com/

i'm ricing up a Rondo that will sneak up on your 8 and eat you alive.

be jealous. this is about massive acceleration.

Rems31

I wish I too am faster than a Camry V6...but I lose steam after about 400m. I get a good jump the first few meters but after the Camry picks up, I get smoked. Maybe I need better shoes?? I do a standing start...maybe I should go on blocks??

delhi

tiew.... a wrx or a camry, souped-up mazda3 & SRT10 truck is also faster than a miata,TT ,cayman and s2000 as well. Do you seriously think those cayman/s2k drivers go home and weep? Guess which one is the envious bunch at the end of the day? Why are cars these days so single dimension in performance?

Revvittupp

That SRT-10 truck is almost IMPOSSIBLE to get to hook up... ridiculous. It's hard to drive in a parking lot... ANY gas and the rear wants to kick out.

r-enzyme

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That is why I must save about $7K!!!

delhi

Don't know. But according to the specs it does 0-60 in under 5 ticks. That's already faster than the sti, evo and 350z. And it can carry plywood and armoires too!

Revvittupp

According to someone that has driven it(me) it is the HARDEST car I have ever driven to get to hook up. Once you get moving IT GETS MOVING, but it would take some serious driving to launch it easily... That said, I drove one with 4 miles around the lot and pulled it into the showroom... Just a little less driving then my experience in the SRT10 ragtop...

User24

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What you said clarifies a great many things. You're on the fringe on many levels, as am I, which is why I understand your motives better than most.

Surely not if you have a normal frame of reference. I drive everyday and look on the streets at what is out there. There is not a "helluva lot of cars out there" that will be able to do that. Come back down to earth for a minute if you still can still visualize what it looks like.

Don't mistake denial for merely ignorance and lack of interest to experience something else. Most people's frame of reference regarding power and acceleration, are much lower than you realize. The rx8 demographic is mostly made up of a slower paced world that you have only forgotten or fail to realize still exists.

3rd gear rx8 is very, very fast and powerful to me. Maybe not to you and the extreme niche, but the rx8 is so powerful that at times I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it out with my soul intact.

This is a common problem for enthusiasts of all kinds. Due to how much we know about certain things, we try to raise awareness and get brands to change their products. We realize how poor of a performance many people get by purchashing certain brands and products... when in reality it is merely our own twisted frame of reference that makes their decisions seem foolish. It can be fun to turn people's worlds upside down with knowledge outside of the mainstream consciousness, but that is only one part noble cause, two parts pride and one-up manship. People detect the differences, and I would not act surprised when they do.

Can't fight the mass market mentality, not with the tool known as internet post/reply.

Agree to disagree. One day I learned, that helping people doesn't always involve showing them higher performance, or higher quality. But rather, helping them enjoy, to the fullest extent possible, what they currently have and to maximize that enjoyment not with objective facts, but to share along with their own jaded eyesight and pure fervor for the dreamworld in which they live.

Razz1

A modded NA RX8 is alot faster.

Yes, it is sad you have to pay thousands of dollars to beat a Camary.

Flashwing

Wow, interesting how this thread developed quickly!

Performance is highly subjective and no two opinions are a like. I agree the Car and Driver article made it's point that we're seeing family sedan like vehicles starting to out perform previously faster sports cars. You have a growing market of people who have been forced to trade in their sports cars for family sedans to lug the wife and kids around while also blending in at work.

While I sold cars I met many people who were more interested in what "image" their car produced for them rather than whether they enjoyed the vehicle or not.

So what you have are people that want to have their cake and eat it too. Sure, the Camry might out accelerate the RX8 but you won't find a soul on this planet that will say the Camry is a "sports" car and nobody is going to come into the office saying "DUDE, SWEET CAMRY!"

Still, getting caught up in publications like this and taking offense to it is just silly. The RX8 cannot be measured in JUST horsepower, or JUST 1/4 mile times, or JUST curb weight. It's got to be compared on all levels with the final result being calculated.

For the same reasons that you cannot compare a pure drag car, and the RX8 to determine which is "faster" you can't compare a family sedan and the RX8. These cars are built for a specific purpose, and the RX8 was not designed with a long straight road in mind. It was designed with the back mountain roads, twisty highway ramps and quick in-town corners.

People quickly get caught up comparing two things that don't go together.

Like I said, great the Camry can get to the end of the 1320 faster than the RX8. I hope there's not a turn at the end.

9krpmrx8

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playdoh43

at least the camry does have some racing pedigree :p in nascar
thats more than you can say for most cars

RojoOcho

All this "get them in the twisties" is well and good but we are talking about acceleration.