Wish I am faster than a Camry V6
07-15-2008, 09:41 PM
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07-15-2008, 10:08 PM
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^ nothing wrong wth losing to a wagon. God knows how many bmws, g35s, <all manner of Hondas including s2000>, etc got stunned by my family grocery getter wagon. Then again, it's all engine. I don't consider stomping on the gas pedal a highly demanding driver skill. But it's always fun to toy with the mind.
07-15-2008, 10:10 PM
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Oh really , you need to ride shotgun in one of my highway runs, I will show you how wrong you are. No, the 8 will no dominate everything,I am not saying that, but in the 220HP-300HP range, especialy going against family sport cruisers, the 8 can hold its own lovely. Being in the right gear helps too...if your starting from a roll from 20mph don't be in 2nd,be in 1st, if your starting from 45mph don't be in 3rd be in 2nd , if your starting from 70 mph, don't be in 4th , be in 3rd.....as a rotary expert told me, with a rotary car, always be a gear down . If your starting from a stand still don't rev her at 3000k rpm like a piston, rev her high and let her fly(6k +)! And you know what , his tips work.
But like you said, I enjoy my baby for what she can do best, and that is to go around corners very fast , and to look good. Can you tell i get alot of use out my car more than the average RX-8 owner would put there RX-8 through?
Yet she runs like a charm with her 81k miles on her!
But like you said, I enjoy my baby for what she can do best, and that is to go around corners very fast , and to look good. Can you tell i get alot of use out my car more than the average RX-8 owner would put there RX-8 through?
Yet she runs like a charm with her 81k miles on her!
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Promise you all this: One day someone will sell their 2005 GTO to get a newer, more powerful Camry. Then, he will remain on the GTO internets just looking and waiting for opportunities to show them up with powerful Camry numbers. "Quiz time. Think your GTO is fast? Wrong. My Camry is faster in 0-100."
What goes around... we all know the games these peoples are trying to play on the rx8clubz. See through their games like a window.
People will soon be "Camry is mad tyte, will smoke you"...
What goes around... we all know the games these peoples are trying to play on the rx8clubz. See through their games like a window.
People will soon be "Camry is mad tyte, will smoke you"...
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07-16-2008, 12:57 AM
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Promise you all this: One day someone will sell their 2005 GTO to get a newer, more powerful Camry. Then, he will remain on the GTO internets just looking and waiting for opportunities to show them up with powerful Camry numbers. "Quiz time. Think your GTO is fast? Wrong. My Camry is faster in 0-100."
What goes around... we all know the games these peoples are trying to play on the rx8clubz. See through their games like a window.
People will soon be "Camry is mad tyte, will smoke you"...
What goes around... we all know the games these peoples are trying to play on the rx8clubz. See through their games like a window.
People will soon be "Camry is mad tyte, will smoke you"...
I don't like disinformation. I never have and I never will. I know EXACTLY where I rank in the pecking order as far as power and speed are concerned, and therefore, I am humbled by the knowledge, and more importantly, the experience that there are a HELLUVA lot of cars out there that will absolutely blow my car's doors off. I learned this through ownership of the GTO, where a majority of the local owners I know have cars that are between 500 to 900 hp. There is no tolerance for bullshit. You do your mods, get it tuned on a dyno, and then immediately go race and prove it. That culture doesn't exist here. If I had not traded in the RX8, I would also still be in the state of denial that permeates this forum regarding power and acceleration.
I thought this was a cool discussion that highlights why certain cars can out accelerate another. It also identifies that the RX8 is weak in comparison to many other so-called lesser automobiles. I'm tired of owners thinking 3rd gear in an RX8 is invincible when it's not. I'm disappointed that the RX8 after 5 years of production isn't any faster now than it was. The reason for discussing this topic is because it will raise awareness, and drive change. Mazda needs to get off its ***, spend some money, and get the rotary to point where it beats its competitors on the back straightaway. It will also start making the aftermarket accountable to the claims they make. I've never seen so many people that are so trusting that they'll plunk down $10,000 for engine mods, and yet have never seen a time slip that proves it. That would be considered ridiculous in the Viper, Vette, Cobra, GTO, Evo, STi world. I don't like the fact that the RX8 has the "chick car" reputation among other car enthusiasts. That's not fair... it's a brilliant sports car, except it doesn't make enough power, and doesn't even have the potential of making much power. And it never will unless the customer demands it.
07-16-2008, 02:35 AM
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I don't think that's fair. Where did I compare my GTO to the RX8? I'll save you the trouble of reading... I didn't. You know why? Because it doesn't matter to me.
I don't like disinformation. I never have and I never will. I know EXACTLY where I rank in the pecking order as far as power and speed are concerned, and therefore, I am humbled by the knowledge, and more importantly, the experience that there are a HELLUVA lot of cars out there that will absolutely blow my car's doors off. I learned this through ownership of the GTO, where a majority of the local owners I know have cars that are between 500 to 900 hp. There is no tolerance for bullshit. You do your mods, get it tuned on a dyno, and then immediately go race and prove it. That culture doesn't exist here. If I had not traded in the RX8, I would also still be in the state of denial that permeates this forum regarding power and acceleration.
I thought this was a cool discussion that highlights why certain cars can out accelerate another. It also identifies that the RX8 is weak in comparison to many other so-called lesser automobiles. I'm tired of owners thinking 3rd gear in an RX8 is invincible when it's not. I'm disappointed that the RX8 after 5 years of production isn't any faster now than it was. The reason for discussing this topic is because it will raise awareness, and drive change. Mazda needs to get off its ***, spend some money, and get the rotary to point where it beats its competitors on the back straightaway. It will also start making the aftermarket accountable to the claims they make. I've never seen so many people that are so trusting that they'll plunk down $10,000 for engine mods, and yet have never seen a time slip that proves it. That would be considered ridiculous in the Viper, Vette, Cobra, GTO, Evo, STi world. I don't like the fact that the RX8 has the "chick car" reputation among other car enthusiasts. That's not fair... it's a brilliant sports car, except it doesn't make enough power, and doesn't even have the potential of making much power. And it never will unless the customer demands it.
I don't like disinformation. I never have and I never will. I know EXACTLY where I rank in the pecking order as far as power and speed are concerned, and therefore, I am humbled by the knowledge, and more importantly, the experience that there are a HELLUVA lot of cars out there that will absolutely blow my car's doors off. I learned this through ownership of the GTO, where a majority of the local owners I know have cars that are between 500 to 900 hp. There is no tolerance for bullshit. You do your mods, get it tuned on a dyno, and then immediately go race and prove it. That culture doesn't exist here. If I had not traded in the RX8, I would also still be in the state of denial that permeates this forum regarding power and acceleration.
I thought this was a cool discussion that highlights why certain cars can out accelerate another. It also identifies that the RX8 is weak in comparison to many other so-called lesser automobiles. I'm tired of owners thinking 3rd gear in an RX8 is invincible when it's not. I'm disappointed that the RX8 after 5 years of production isn't any faster now than it was. The reason for discussing this topic is because it will raise awareness, and drive change. Mazda needs to get off its ***, spend some money, and get the rotary to point where it beats its competitors on the back straightaway. It will also start making the aftermarket accountable to the claims they make. I've never seen so many people that are so trusting that they'll plunk down $10,000 for engine mods, and yet have never seen a time slip that proves it. That would be considered ridiculous in the Viper, Vette, Cobra, GTO, Evo, STi world. I don't like the fact that the RX8 has the "chick car" reputation among other car enthusiasts. That's not fair... it's a brilliant sports car, except it doesn't make enough power, and doesn't even have the potential of making much power. And it never will unless the customer demands it.
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07-16-2008, 03:06 AM
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Oh really , you need to ride shotgun in one of my highway runs, I will show you how wrong you are. No, the 8 will no dominate everything,I am not saying that, but in the 220HP-300HP range, especialy going against family sport cruisers, the 8 can hold its own lovely. Being in the right gear helps too...if your starting from a roll from 20mph don't be in 2nd,be in 1st, if your starting from 45mph don't be in 3rd be in 2nd , if your starting from 70 mph, don't be in 4th , be in 3rd.....as a rotary expert told me, with a rotary car, always be a gear down . If your starting from a stand still don't rev her at 3000k rpm like a piston, rev her high and let her fly(6k +)! And you know what , his tips work.
"Who cares?"
This testosterone spewing, street racing garbage does not speak very well of the driver. It tells me he's a whiney immature brat who can't handle the slightest heat. So what if a Camry tried to race you? And beat you? Street racing proves nothing, and you shouldn't have anything to prove to an idiot in his mom's Camry.
07-16-2008, 04:49 AM
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There is no tolerance for bullshit. You do your mods, get it tuned on a dyno, and then immediately go race and prove it. That culture doesn't exist here. If I had not traded in the RX8, I would also still be in the state of denial that permeates this forum regarding power and acceleration.
I DO agree that I see a totally different behavior within the rotary community which insist on not putting your money where your mouth is. We have shops putting out products but we don't see these shops putting their RX8's on the race track and showing their products in action. We see a couple dyno pulls, maybe a video with 20 seconds of footage and that's it.
I've seen people claiming (x product gave me 300whp!) with no dynographs, time slips, or any kind of proof of performance. We're given excuses that they are happy and that's all that matters...they don't need to prove anything to anybody.
I'd really like to start seeing people call BS to claims of power or performance.
Still, there's not a widespread state of denial regarding power and performance. What you have is two different worlds of performance seperated by speciality built cars. I've had numerous arguments with a friend with a 600 hp Mustang Cobra over this very issue. The only playground he will play on is the drag strip to which I'm smoked even if he drove in reverse! Yet I have invited him numerous times to the auto cross track or road course and he always turns me down.
No doubt, cause I'd smoke that Cobra 6 ways from sunday. It's a specialty built drag car, and my car is a specialty built road course car. Trying to make a determination of which of us is "faster" is impossible because it's relative. It's not making excuses, it's pointing out the dynamics of performance go WAY beyond horsepower and acceleration.
Ok, so here we have a situation where a Camry could and does outperform an RX8 in a 1/4 mile test. Sure, but looking at the braking capability and the skip pad test we see this thing stops like a pig and handles like one to. Does that still mean the RX8 is "slower" because the Camry gets to the end of the 1320 faster?
Maybe, but for the Camry's sake I hope there's not a hairpin at the end!
I'm not of the camp that the RX8 is THE best sports car on the market. I love it for it's uniqueness, it's grace, styling and overall fun factor. Still, being unique means dealing with a lack of upgrade options and that's something I choose to live with.
Still, you think being beat by a Camry is bad? Try being that Audi R8 driver getting beat by a WAGON!
07-16-2008, 07:34 AM
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516 ft lbs of torqe would have that effect on a person in the opposite ride! LOL
07-16-2008, 07:56 AM
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I think you missed my point. So to reiterate in a short sentence:
"Who cares?"
This testosterone spewing, street racing garbage does not speak very well of the driver. It tells me he's a whiney immature brat who can't handle the slightest heat. So what if a Camry tried to race you? And beat you? Street racing proves nothing, and you shouldn't have anything to prove to an idiot in his mom's Camry.
"Who cares?"
This testosterone spewing, street racing garbage does not speak very well of the driver. It tells me he's a whiney immature brat who can't handle the slightest heat. So what if a Camry tried to race you? And beat you? Street racing proves nothing, and you shouldn't have anything to prove to an idiot in his mom's Camry.
1. I am not a child, 16 years of driving should give you a clue that i am 32 years of age. 2. Yes occasionally i do get into highway races with my daily driver, win ,lose, or enjoying the sense of speed. 3. A camry never beat me, that was the origional poster. 4. I just don't have fun on the highway but i also dibble and dab in professional motorsports, I participate in touch and go go-cart sprint races here in Fl, spec car races for the SCCA, even driven spec 1985 RX-7 for my buddy Mr.Woodruff back in the 90's ,drove a Formula Ford (open wheel) at Sebring twice for a buddy of mine who passed in 2000,by the name of Don Jonson. In the near future soon to be a IMSA participant(non driver related) , fingers crossed on that one.....
So I have my fun on and off the track, if you can't handle it tuff.... also assuming makes you look like a real A-hole.
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07-16-2008, 08:13 AM
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I don't think that's fair. Where did I compare my GTO to the RX8? I'll save you the trouble of reading... I didn't. You know why? Because it doesn't matter to me.
I don't like disinformation. I never have and I never will. I know EXACTLY where I rank in the pecking order as far as power and speed are concerned, and therefore, I am humbled by the knowledge, and more importantly, the experience that there are a HELLUVA lot of cars out there that will absolutely blow my car's doors off. I learned this through ownership of the GTO, where a majority of the local owners I know have cars that are between 500 to 900 hp. There is no tolerance for bullshit. You do your mods, get it tuned on a dyno, and then immediately go race and prove it. That culture doesn't exist here. If I had not traded in the RX8, I would also still be in the state of denial that permeates this forum regarding power and acceleration.
I thought this was a cool discussion that highlights why certain cars can out accelerate another. It also identifies that the RX8 is weak in comparison to many other so-called lesser automobiles. I'm tired of owners thinking 3rd gear in an RX8 is invincible when it's not. I'm disappointed that the RX8 after 5 years of production isn't any faster now than it was. The reason for discussing this topic is because it will raise awareness, and drive change. Mazda needs to get off its ***, spend some money, and get the rotary to point where it beats its competitors on the back straightaway. It will also start making the aftermarket accountable to the claims they make. I've never seen so many people that are so trusting that they'll plunk down $10,000 for engine mods, and yet have never seen a time slip that proves it. That would be considered ridiculous in the Viper, Vette, Cobra, GTO, Evo, STi world. I don't like the fact that the RX8 has the "chick car" reputation among other car enthusiasts. That's not fair... it's a brilliant sports car, except it doesn't make enough power, and doesn't even have the potential of making much power. And it never will unless the customer demands it.
I don't like disinformation. I never have and I never will. I know EXACTLY where I rank in the pecking order as far as power and speed are concerned, and therefore, I am humbled by the knowledge, and more importantly, the experience that there are a HELLUVA lot of cars out there that will absolutely blow my car's doors off. I learned this through ownership of the GTO, where a majority of the local owners I know have cars that are between 500 to 900 hp. There is no tolerance for bullshit. You do your mods, get it tuned on a dyno, and then immediately go race and prove it. That culture doesn't exist here. If I had not traded in the RX8, I would also still be in the state of denial that permeates this forum regarding power and acceleration.
I thought this was a cool discussion that highlights why certain cars can out accelerate another. It also identifies that the RX8 is weak in comparison to many other so-called lesser automobiles. I'm tired of owners thinking 3rd gear in an RX8 is invincible when it's not. I'm disappointed that the RX8 after 5 years of production isn't any faster now than it was. The reason for discussing this topic is because it will raise awareness, and drive change. Mazda needs to get off its ***, spend some money, and get the rotary to point where it beats its competitors on the back straightaway. It will also start making the aftermarket accountable to the claims they make. I've never seen so many people that are so trusting that they'll plunk down $10,000 for engine mods, and yet have never seen a time slip that proves it. That would be considered ridiculous in the Viper, Vette, Cobra, GTO, Evo, STi world. I don't like the fact that the RX8 has the "chick car" reputation among other car enthusiasts. That's not fair... it's a brilliant sports car, except it doesn't make enough power, and doesn't even have the potential of making much power. And it never will unless the customer demands it.
That is why i really don't trust many car magazines when they drive the RX-8, many of these testers hop in a RX-8 , think the RX-8 is like driving a piston car , rev to 3k rpm , get a crappy 0-60, 1/4 mile and 0-100. Many of the car testers will shift at 7k , not knowing thats when the rotary is coming alive. So many testers get some really lousy times, resulting the RX-8 getting a lousy reputation as a "chick car" or a slow car. Some of these guys faces in faster car or comments after a healthy run is hilarious, i get anything from , I thought the RX-8 was slow, you must have a turbo, your car must be modded to the gills to beat me..... NO, NO and No.... I just know how to drive.
Funny if people put effort in gaining driving skills, going to race school, instead of waisting there money on mods, they may enjoy there car more. Don't get me wrong i love mods to, but nothing can replace driver skill.
My RX-8 is my daily driver, i enjoy my car for what it is, for what it can do, and what it can't do...
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07-16-2008, 08:42 AM
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Well said.... i for one never thought of the RX-8 as a car that can dominate, thats what my Z-06 is for! LOL! But real talk, no gear is invincible in the RX-8, its just being in the right gear that can put you ahead,make you even , or make you lose to your competition. The point of the matter is , many people do not know how to drive a RX-8, case and point , my 483whp TTZ back in the day, i can launch that car from 3k rpm, its sweet spot and net a pretty good time in the 1/4 mile, if I try to launch my RX-8 from 3k,it will lung forward, bog , hick up and sputter , resulting in a horrible time.6500 RPM is the sweet spot for my car..... Thats just one aspect , there are many more.....
That is why i really don't trust many car magazines when they drive the RX-8, many of these testers hop in a RX-8 , think the RX-8 is like driving a piston car , rev to 3k rpm , get a crappy 0-60, 1/4 mile and 0-100. Many of the car testers will shift at 7k , not knowing thats when the rotary is coming alive. So many testers get some really lousy times, resulting the RX-8 getting a lousy reputation as a "chick car" or a slow car. Some of these guys faces in faster car or comments after a healthy run is hilarious, i get anything from , I thought the RX-8 was slow, you must have a turbo, your car must be modded to the gills to beat me..... NO, NO and No.... I just know how to drive.
Funny if people put effort in gaining driving skills, going to race school, instead of waisting there money on mods, they may enjoy there car more. Don't get me wrong i love mods to, but nothing can replace driver skill.
My RX-8 is my daily driver, i enjoy my car for what it is, for what it can do, and what it can't do...
That is why i really don't trust many car magazines when they drive the RX-8, many of these testers hop in a RX-8 , think the RX-8 is like driving a piston car , rev to 3k rpm , get a crappy 0-60, 1/4 mile and 0-100. Many of the car testers will shift at 7k , not knowing thats when the rotary is coming alive. So many testers get some really lousy times, resulting the RX-8 getting a lousy reputation as a "chick car" or a slow car. Some of these guys faces in faster car or comments after a healthy run is hilarious, i get anything from , I thought the RX-8 was slow, you must have a turbo, your car must be modded to the gills to beat me..... NO, NO and No.... I just know how to drive.
Funny if people put effort in gaining driving skills, going to race school, instead of waisting there money on mods, they may enjoy there car more. Don't get me wrong i love mods to, but nothing can replace driver skill.
My RX-8 is my daily driver, i enjoy my car for what it is, for what it can do, and what it can't do...
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1. I am not a child, 16 years of driving should give you a clue that i am 32 years of age. 2. Yes occasionally i do get into highway races with my daily driver, win ,lose, or enjoying the sense of speed. 3. A camry never beat me, that was the origional poster. 4. I just don't have fun on the highway but i also dibble and dab in professional motorsports, I participate in touch and go go-cart sprint races here in Fl, spec car races for the SCCA, even driven spec 1985 RX-7 for my buddy Mr.Woodruff back in the 90's ,drove a Formula Ford (open wheel) at Sebring twice for a buddy of mine who passed in 2000,by the name of Don Jonson. In the near future soon to be a IMSA participant(non driver related) , fingers crossed on that one.....
So I have my fun on and off the track, if you can't handle it tuff.... also assuming makes you look like a real A-hole.
So I have my fun on and off the track, if you can't handle it tuff.... also assuming makes you look like a real A-hole.
And so touchy. I don't remember specifically referring to you in any of my posts. Whoever got beat by a Camry, wagon, or whatever, lose like a man. You shouldn't be street racing in the first place. Fun is great, but being a Fast & Furious wannabe and not being able to refuse a challenge is a sign of sheer immaturity.
07-16-2008, 08:55 AM
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judging by what you said, you appear to be a skilled and good driver, so there should be no suprise that you are beating cars that are supposed to be faster in the straights. im pretty sure mags like c&d and r&t knows how to launch a rx8 properly though, they even talk about it in their rx-8 articles about high rpm launches
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Lots of misinformation here. Funny, the high horsepower types are always the ones to micro analyse this debate yet they still get it wrong. You assume that you can figure everything out with a trap speed, and assume that there is a perfectly linear drop off in acceleration as speeds rise, which is usually the case with most cars and in particular those with a flat torque curve. But the rotary, like the 2 strokes and 600cc bikes that I got used to in my youth, have a power band as narrow as a supermodel's ***.
With the renesis, if you're not in the meatiest part of your power band, you're loosing momentum. Even if you shift at redline, you're dropping into the 6000rpm range at the next shift which has less than a forceful kick. Most small cc sportbikers easily play around with their gearing by simply changing their rear sprockets to match a powerband with a particular track, but there's no such easy mod with the renesis, although shifting at fuel cut off (93-9500rpm) rather than 9000rpm can lessen this effect.
So, if you're starting from a roll at anything less than 7000rpm against said Camry, more often than not you'd loose momentum which can't be easily reversed, i.e. rolls from the low 60's (early 3rd gear) and low 90's (early 4th) are the best to avoid since you have no choice but to start in the less meaty part of your powerband. Either way, it's not a straight line car, but choose your rolls carefully and you'll find yourself doing well against cars that the "experts" here say you have no business keeping up with.
With the renesis, if you're not in the meatiest part of your power band, you're loosing momentum. Even if you shift at redline, you're dropping into the 6000rpm range at the next shift which has less than a forceful kick. Most small cc sportbikers easily play around with their gearing by simply changing their rear sprockets to match a powerband with a particular track, but there's no such easy mod with the renesis, although shifting at fuel cut off (93-9500rpm) rather than 9000rpm can lessen this effect.
So, if you're starting from a roll at anything less than 7000rpm against said Camry, more often than not you'd loose momentum which can't be easily reversed, i.e. rolls from the low 60's (early 3rd gear) and low 90's (early 4th) are the best to avoid since you have no choice but to start in the less meaty part of your powerband. Either way, it's not a straight line car, but choose your rolls carefully and you'll find yourself doing well against cars that the "experts" here say you have no business keeping up with.
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Lots of misinformation here. Funny, the high horsepower types are always the ones to micro analyse this debate yet they still get it wrong. You assume that you can figure everything out with a trap speed, and assume that there is a perfectly linear drop off in acceleration as speeds rise, which is usually the case with most cars and in particular those with a flat torque curve. But the rotary, like the 2 strokes and 600cc bikes that I got used to in my youth, have a power band as narrow as a supermodel's ***.
With the renesis, if you're not in the meatiest part of your power band, you're loosing momentum. Even if you shift at redline, you're dropping into the 6000rpm range at the next shift which has less than a forceful kick. Most small cc sportbikers easily play around with their gearing by simply changing their rear sprockets to match a powerband with a particular track, but there's no such easy mod with the renesis, although shifting at fuel cut off (93-9500rpm) rather than 9000rpm can lessen this effect.
So, if you're starting from a roll at anything less than 7000rpm against said Camry, more often than not you'd loose momentum which can't be easily reversed, i.e. rolls from the low 60's (early 3rd gear) and low 90's (early 4th) are the best to avoid since you have no choice but to start in the less meaty part of your powerband. Either way, it's not a straight line car, but choose your rolls carefully and you'll find yourself doing well against cars that the "experts" here say you have no business keeping up with.
With the renesis, if you're not in the meatiest part of your power band, you're loosing momentum. Even if you shift at redline, you're dropping into the 6000rpm range at the next shift which has less than a forceful kick. Most small cc sportbikers easily play around with their gearing by simply changing their rear sprockets to match a powerband with a particular track, but there's no such easy mod with the renesis, although shifting at fuel cut off (93-9500rpm) rather than 9000rpm can lessen this effect.
So, if you're starting from a roll at anything less than 7000rpm against said Camry, more often than not you'd loose momentum which can't be easily reversed, i.e. rolls from the low 60's (early 3rd gear) and low 90's (early 4th) are the best to avoid since you have no choice but to start in the less meaty part of your powerband. Either way, it's not a straight line car, but choose your rolls carefully and you'll find yourself doing well against cars that the "experts" here say you have no business keeping up with.
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well im sure if you are skilled enough to time things correctly and pull that off, the rx8 can and should be very competitive vs the average joe in a camry v6 auto stepping it on the gas. driver skill makes a world of difference. at the same time i assure 90210 in the right hands a v6 camry is no joke either.
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The real question I have is when did street racing become okay on this forum? When I used to frequent the forum about a year ago, it was strictly verboten....mods would kill that stuff immediately. Now I see so many people boasting of their street racing conquests. Gotta cut that **** out guys.
EDIT: I see discussing street racing is still NOT cool (https://www.rx8club.com/faq.php?faq=...q_user_conduct, #15)
EDIT: I see discussing street racing is still NOT cool (https://www.rx8club.com/faq.php?faq=...q_user_conduct, #15)