RojoOcho

If you don't wanna get beat by a Camry in a straightaway, get FI. There we go.

DailyDriver2k5

You can use FIif you want , honestly from my experience on my highway commute to and from work, I encounter all type of vehicles , especially 4 door sedans that have anywhere in the range of 220HP-300HP. These can be from Lexus IS300 to Acura Tl's to current Nissan Maximas with 290HP and everything in between . And I have never seen the rear tailights of these cars yet, minus a STI /EVO. Even a 220HP WRX is weak on the top end spectrum... The only 4 door sedan that can really give or has given me problems in that HP range has been the 2002/2003 Nissan Maxima's. There power to weight ratio are very nice and makes that a potent 4 door sedan to deal with. I use to own one too, there very capable of embarresing a RX-8 if the driver of the 8 is unskilled behind the wheel, for that matter even skilled. Oh also a SE-R Altimas have given me problems, there very potent too.

The rest of the sedans look pretty on paper , but are rarely a threat on highway runs. Many of those cars , have weak 3rd and higher gears, they just fall flat on there face it seems, especially the Acura 2001-2003 TL-S ,there snooze city after 2nd gear.

Vasichko

iTrader: (1)

True, but most of the looiks are from people wanting some and id rather not waste my gas in a loss.

YaXMaNGTO

BlueEyes and playdoh saw that I was talking about 0-100mph, not the quarter mile. My source is the Road and Track Road Test Summary chart they print in every issue where they include the 0-100mph statistic. I was actually giving the RX8 the benefit of the doubt by posting a 0-100mph time of 15.9 seconds. A follow up test they did shows a 0-100mph time of 16.1 seconds.

I trust R&T numbers and their testing methodologies. All things equal, the Camry SE V6, which shows a 0-100mph time of 14.5 seconds, should beat an RX8 from a 70 roll.

YaXMaNGTO

I've included the links to the data panels as a reference

For the Camry SE V6
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...data_panel.pdf
0–100 mph 14.5
0–90 mph 11.6
0-80 mph 9.5
0–70 mph 7.7
0–60 mph 6.1
0–50 mph 4.8
0–40 mph 3.5
0–30 mph 2.5

For the RX8
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...2003171557.pdf
0–100 mph 15.9
0–90 mph 12.8
0–80 mph 10.0
0–70 mph 8.0
0–60 mph 5.9
0–50 mph 4.5
0–40 mph 3.2
0–30 mph 2.1

JRichter

A Camry can't hold a 30-50 degree angle drift out of a left turn on to an intersecting street at a mere 30 mph with only one hand on the wheel and no cause for concern by its driver.

RojoOcho

Odds are the people you "encountered" weren't going hard... and if they were, they probably weren't the best driver.

YaXMaNGTO

From 0-60mph, the RX8 is .2 seconds faster than the Camry... this is a function of lower curbweight and a better launch with RWD. Once you pass 60mph, it's the RX8 that "falls flat on it's face", and the Camry runs away with a 1.4 second advantage to 100mph. This is a function of higher power and torque overcoming the handicap of a 490lb curbweight difference and crappy FWD.

Both cars cross the quarter mile mark in 14.5 seconds, but the Camry is actually reeling in the RX8 and going 4.3mph faster at the line. If the race kept going past the quarter mile, the Camry would showing the RX8 it's tail lights.

crimson-rain

about the fourth paragraph: http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=1411

crimson-rain

FI is not needed to beat a camry. A well thought-out, modded NA 8 can very well take out most sedans on the road. If an 8 is FI'd, then we should be talking Audi RS4, IS-F and C63 AMG if you want to race sedans.

The 8 stock isn't as quick as most on the lot, but it's not slow by no means.

YaXMaNGTO

Again, look at how fast a 2007 Acura TL Type S goes from 60-100mph
I'm trying to show you how bad a stock RX8 is from a roll. The claims that an RX8 is fast from 60mph up are complete garbage.

0–100 mph 14.3
0–90 mph 11.9
0–80 mph 9.3
0–70 mph 7.6
0–60 mph 5.7
0–50 mph 4.4
0–40 mph 3.5
0–30 mph 2.2

saturn

It was a joke people. I think you can get a sense of humor on Amazon.com now.

solito77

There is truth to this.

YaXMaNGTO

I don't think you understand what it would take to beat the cars you've listed.

Mazda Maniac says his car trapped between 109mph and 111mph with the older smaller turbo. We all know his ride is dialed in, and he can drive like a mad man.

RS4? Maybe. It traps 108.1 mph
IS-F? Traps 113.8 mph
C63 AMG? Traps 114.4 mph

The fact is that no one has ever posted a time slip showing an NA RX8 breaking 100 mph in the quarter. Ever.

delhi

...because rx-8 drivers are enjoying track days and country roads?
does stoplight racing that important to you? Oh wait you drive a gto.

DailyDriver2k5

Funny people always say this garbage excuse. Oh the person you were racing wasn't racing.....what flawed logic.

If i used your flawed logic i guess that S2000 I encountered the other day who beat me by half a car, i guess to him I wasn't racing . That 350Z i encountered last week nipping on his heels , I guess he figured I wasn't racing either. The Camry i beat last night I guess I was toying with him too , even though he was nowhere near me at 135mph....
I guess the E63 that chased me through traffic last month and we both got on it when we broke away from traffic, he figured I wasn't racing , i was just going easy on him....

Give me a break.... I have been driving/ racing for the past 16 years , i know when somebody is toying with me like last week when me and a C6 vette was getting off and on the gas , then lets me pull away , then C6 corvette that has twice the Torque and HP. NOW he wasn't racing me, but those other guys trust me they were racing me....

YaXMaNGTO

This thread is about an article that compares distincly different styles of cars in straight line performance. The Camry and RX8 comparison was made, and we've been spending our time discussing and developing conclusions about this topic.

If you don't care to talk about that, go away.

YaXMaNGTO

No reason to get bent out of shape.

BTW, you do realize that the E63 AMG is faster than an LS2 C6 Corvette?

RojoOcho

My point is this: You probably did beat them.

But it's proven that these cars more consistently tested will beat an RX-8. Just like RX-8's will consistently beat other cars. (In Stock Trim)

Yeah, they may have been racing you. But you just said you've been racing for years. People who drive those cars probably don't. So you have the edge based on experience.

delhi

you asked a question but received an answer you didn't like. is that time of the month huh?

RojoOcho

I agree. It's not slow. But the average sedan has caught up. And in many cases surpassed.

dothackRAVE

It's not ******* Midnight Wangan Maximum Tune 3. Don't pretend the 8 is any good in a straightline, and just accept it as a fact. All this highway racing garbage should already be known to all RX-8 owners that the 8 is NO GOOD AT IT!

So what if a Camry gave you a good spankin'? You got spanked. Lose like a man.

Enjoy the car for what it is..., not what you wish it is. That, and remember that the guy in the Camry will never have as fulfilling of a driving experience as you..., nor will he be turning heads anytime soon.

Kafka

The only place I speed nowadays is highway on ramps.

I slowed to a crawl at 45km/h @ 2nd gear entering the ramp, the Carmy V6 following me was furious.

After I am sure I got a clear opening at the ramps, I just stump on the gas and redline 2nd gear while doing the 27-degree turn.

The Camry was nowhere insight after that...

DailyDriver2k5

Yup i do know that, he torched me too, as we got away from traffic.Forgot to mention that in my little rant.

DailyDriver2k5

Oh really , you need to ride shotgun in one of my highway runs, I will show you how wrong you are. No, the 8 will no dominate everything,I am not saying that, but in the 220HP-300HP range, especialy going against family sport cruisers, the 8 can hold its own lovely. Being in the right gear helps too...if your starting from a roll from 20mph don't be in 2nd,be in 1st, if your starting from 45mph don't be in 3rd be in 2nd , if your starting from 70 mph, don't be in 4th , be in 3rd.....as a rotary expert told me, with a rotary car, always be a gear down . If your starting from a stand still don't rev her at 3000k rpm like a piston, rev her high and let her fly(6k +)! And you know what , his tips work.

But like you said, I enjoy my baby for what she can do best, and that is to go around corners very fast , and to look good. Can you tell i get alot of use out my car more than the average RX-8 owner would put there RX-8 through?
Yet she runs like a charm with her 81k miles on her!