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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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What about the new McLaren MP4-12C supercar?

Haven't seen anyone talk about the new McClaren or even compare it to the new Ferrari 458.

When the Ferrari 458 pics first came out in mags, I acknowledged it as probably the most beautiful supercar in a long time, miles better looking than the awful looking Ferrari California.

Then the pics of the McLaren came out and I was impressed but not awed initially. But I now think it's an absolutely beautifully understated car. I love the dark mask trick on the front airdam (458 is the only other car I know that does that too). Love the integrated rear spoiler (Ferrari has never come up with something like that). And about the interiors, well, Ferrari interiors are beautiful but there seems to be a common theme over the last 10 years and so I can't say they're innovative anymore. But the McClaren interior IS innovative, beautiful in its own right, and totally different from Ferrraris.

I was dismayed to notice that at some three-quarter angles, the Ferrari 458 looks kind of weird. It's just too bad that the 458 is overall such a beautiful design that could have been the most perfect-looking car since the Lamborghini Miura, but it's not quite there. I feel the McLaren has fewer weak spots, even though the overall design is not as flashy as the Ferrari.

Cosmetically, for me, the only design weakness is that double shark grille on the side. Functionally, I don't like the gullwing doors; I feel it's unnecessary.

Over the last month, as I've allowed both designs to sink in, I'm surprised that I think I actually prefer the McLaren!
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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it looks like a lotus evora to me. obviously not exactly alike, but close enough.




then again, they all look alike these days.

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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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They're planning to run it at Lemans, I think.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 02:14 AM
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the mclaren is hott but id take the 458
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 07:42 AM
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I would take the Evora over all of them...
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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i would take a tesla over all of them.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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I would take whatever they would give me. I'm not picky
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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I'd take the Lambo LP640-4. The new version of the yellow lambo pictured in the post.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Why must supercars looks so subtle these days?
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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PAGANI ZONDA

Or the Koeniggseggseggseggseggsegg

I like the hypercar look.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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I'll take the lightweight race version of the McLaren....I'll call it the F2.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 10:52 PM
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most super cars look alike, i would take one and sell it to buy a house
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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I'm a big fan of the new McLaren design. The 458 is nice, but I think they overdid some details...
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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Wheels on that thing are weak, very...blah. Also has too much wheel gap for a supercar IMO. Dont get me wrong, its badass and i would take it in a heartbeat, but those 2 things would def be changed first thing
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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Am I the only ******* that thinks Lamborghinis are hideous? Even worse in person too...
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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not hideous, but not attractive either.

Originally Posted by EMart11b
Am I the only ******* that thinks Lamborghinis are hideous? Even worse in person too...
i'd much, MUCH rather take an original McLaren F1 over any of these jokers. 627hp, naturally aspirated...in 1993! bmw can sure make a motor. S70/2 ftw.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ArXate
Then the pics of the McLaren came out and I was impressed but not awed initially. But I now think it's an absolutely beautifully understated car. I love the dark mask trick on the front airdam (458 is the only other car I know that does that too). Love the integrated rear spoiler (Ferrari has never come up with something like that). And about the interiors, well, Ferrari interiors are beautiful but there seems to be a common theme over the last 10 years and so I can't say they're innovative anymore. But the McClaren interior IS innovative, beautiful in its own right, and totally different from Ferrraris.
Yeah, at first I thought it was kind of bland but the more I looked at different pics at different angles I noticed the subtle beauty. I love the creased front fenders. The interior design looks really good, too. Side by side you can start to see the family resemblance to the F1 but one thing I really liked about the F1's styling was the huge side strake from just behind front wheel. The side of the MP4-12C looks tame in comparison. I also like the clean look to the rear and how they did the venting around the rear glass. It's not in the same class as the F1 but almost puts up almost similar hp and torque figures but w/ more weight I believe. I think this car will give 458 some good competition.

Hopefully this car will be successful and bring home enough bacon to develop a new version of something similar to the F1 but I don't think there will ever be another car like that.

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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Am I the only ******* that thinks Lamborghinis are hideous? Even worse in person too...
I agree with you. Both Lamborghinis are outdated on the outside and inside. It's almost as if Lambo has lost its creativity and can only rehash its two current designs. An example of a rehash is the hideous Reventon. The Murcielago is a strange illusion because it looks bubbly and bloated but when you go up to it, it's really pretty damn low. They need the Murcielago replacement asap.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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I'm a big fan of the new McLaren design. The 458 is nice, but I think they overdid some details...
Yeah, one thing I think Ferrari overdid on the 458 are the low doors with the angular creases. We've had so many sports cars over the last 10 to 15 years incorporate the high door sill, compacted side-glass look. The very first car to do this was, if you remember, the last Toyota Supra. I remember back then when a major car mag wrote that the top portion, strangely, appeared to be at 3/4 scale relative to the rest of the car. So I think Ferrari is purposely leading a reverse-direction trend here. But the sharp creases make the already-low door sill oddly appear even lower.

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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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i love the reventon! lol
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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I'd take the McLaren over the 458, much better looking in IMO
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