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Old 06-12-2007, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by YaXMaNGTO
I honestly secretly enjoy the RX8 vs "fill in the blank", and the MS3 threads are the most entertaining. The fact that you guys incessantly fret about how the RX8 compares to other cars is one of the tenets of RX8club's culture.
Isn't that that case on all car forums?
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
Which is stupid but obviously important to turblown-econoboxen...
Whooping your *** around a twisty track is pretty important as well. Being able to do so with 330whp from basic boltons, 4 wicker chairs for the patio in the back seat, and a new lawn mower to keep the yard nice and pretty iin the trunk, and getting better gas mileage is just gravy. Have I mentioned how well my car handles in the snow?
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Originally Posted by Ike
Whooping your *** around a twisty track is pretty important as well. Being able to do so with 330whp from basic boltons, 4 wicker chairs for the patio in the back seat, and a new lawn mower to keep the yard nice and pretty iin the trunk, and getting better gas mileage is just gravy. Have I mentioned how well my car handles in the snow?

classic!

But not 1/2 as funny as these misguided individuals you have quoted:

Originally Posted by dbb
Sure, the Evo is quick. But it isn't a drivers car. It's a point and shoot low-rent high-price go-kart. No soul, no driver feedback
Originally Posted by RX8_GT
Seems to me that the engines in the STI/Evo are basically max'ed out
Originally Posted by trusterotary307
i drove a new 06 speed 3 and its not half as fast as an 8.they suck in my opinion very uncomfortable and slow.

Now, that's entertainment!
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Originally Posted by Ike
Whooping your *** around a twisty track is pretty important as well. Being able to do so with 330whp from basic boltons, 4 wicker chairs for the patio in the back seat, and a new lawn mower to keep the yard nice and pretty iin the trunk, and getting better gas mileage is just gravy. Have I mentioned how well my car handles in the snow?
Meh...you still dont impress me with your turblown-econobox...you still drive a lancer...you go boy...keep thumpin that insecure chest of yours...its funny and turning me on...
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At TWS this weekend there was a modded MS3 running in my group. I'd say he'd have been able to keep up if I hadn't just thrown on the RPF-1's, new tires, and HP+'s.

I was very impressed, it's got a lot more going for it than most people give it credit for.

Then again, he was passing C4S's on the back straight, so you know that he's far from stock. And by passing, I mean buttraping.

The MS3 is the new Neon SRT-4, unfortunately.
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The longer I own my Evo and the more I've tuned the engine and the suspension, the less apt I am to care about those who have no idea what I'm driving and what it can do. It's their loss.
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Originally Posted by Michael
At TWS this weekend there was a modded MS3 running in my group. I'd say he'd have been able to keep up if I hadn't just thrown on the RPF-1's, new tires, and HP+'s.

I was very impressed, it's got a lot more going for it than most people give it credit for.

Then again, he was passing C4S's on the back straight, so you know that he's far from stock.

The MS3 is the new Neon SRT-4, unfortunately.
If its a red one I know who you are talking about, and YEAH homie is NOT stock at all. Good guy, went out on a hill country drive with thier group and a handful of MS6's and my buddy's STI...fun was had by all...

If your goin to da ranch "Cresson" I'll see you there, you can meet up with the other local RX track *****...ha

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Old 06-12-2007, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
The longer I own my Evo and the more I've tuned the engine and the suspension, the less apt I am to care about those who have no idea what I'm driving and what it can do. It's their loss.
Funny I feel the same way...wierd no?
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
If its a red one I know who you are talking about, and YEAH homie is NOT stock at all. Good guy, went out on a hill country drive with thier group and a handful of MS6's and my buddy's STI...fun was had by all...

If your goin to da ranch "Cresson" I'll see you there, you can meet up with the other local RX track *****...ha
It was a silver MS3. Looked stock except for the exhaust. I think he was on OEM tires as well, which adds to how impressive it is.

But then again, the driver matters most.
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
If its a red one I know who you are talking about, and YEAH homie is NOT stock at all. Good guy, went out on a hill country drive with thier group and a handful of MS6's and my buddy's STI...fun was had by all...

If your goin to da ranch "Cresson" I'll see you there, you can meet up with the other local RX track *****...ha
Ok, This thread has gone nowhere... and I honestly don't think you know what you are talking about. The "red" car as you say you "tested" has NEVER gone to a track event!!! I know the owner and I have driven this car as well. I know where the car is and what is being done to it.

The car that went to the event is a silver and IT'S STOCK!!!! even the wheels are stock... so please make sure you get your facts right before you write them here.

I own the MS3 now (I MISS my RX8 no doubt) and I was one of the guys that initiated the MS3 drive near Austin. However this specific day when you "tested" the car I wasn't able to attend otherwise I am sure the only thing you would have been able to see would have been my bumper...

This is just crazy... Why can't we accept that Mazda made a "better" car altogether? As I originally said, looks, engine sound and handling NOTHING compares to the RX8... For the rest... the MS3 is a winner.

Carlos
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Originally Posted by Pololo_RX8
Ok, This thread has gone nowhere... and I honestly don't think you know what you are talking about. The "red" car as you say you "tested" has NEVER gone to a track event!!! I know the owner and I have driven this car as well. I know where the car is and what is being done to it.

The car that went to the event is a silver and IT'S STOCK!!!! even the wheels are stock... so please make sure you get your facts right before you write them here.

I own the MS3 now (I MISS my RX8 no doubt) and I was one of the guys that initiated the MS3 drive near Austin. However this specific day when you "tested" the car I wasn't able to attend otherwise I am sure the only thing you would have been able to see would have been my bumper...

This is just crazy... Why can't we accept that Mazda made a "better" car altogether? As I originally said, looks, engine sound and handling NOTHING compares to the RX8... For the rest... the MS3 is a winner.

Carlos
Umm no...YOU have it wrong...the one that was tested was not the one I claimed was out there (TDE @ TWS 4-21-07)...it was a completely different red MS3 and it was not at the recent PCA event but the prior TDE one...I have the sheet for that day which can prove it as well as pics of his car AND video from the track as he was in my run group...outside of a lack of reading comprehension you have what??

So lets try not to put things in my mouth...mkay...if you would stop being a fanboy long enough and slowly read the post you would have noticed THAT instead of frothing at the mouth and aiming to troll...

Get your own facts straight before calling someone out because all it does is make you look like an *** trying to pick a fight...

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Old 06-12-2007, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pololo_RX8
Ok, This thread has gone nowhere... and I honestly don't think you know what you are talking about. The "red" car as you say you "tested" has NEVER gone to a track event!!! I know the owner and I have driven this car as well. I know where the car is and what is being done to it.

The car that went to the event is a silver and IT'S STOCK!!!! even the wheels are stock... so please make sure you get your facts right before you write them here.

I own the MS3 now (I MISS my RX8 no doubt) and I was one of the guys that initiated the MS3 drive near Austin. However this specific day when you "tested" the car I wasn't able to attend otherwise I am sure the only thing you would have been able to see would have been my bumper...

This is just crazy... Why can't we accept that Mazda made a "better" car altogether? As I originally said, looks, engine sound and handling NOTHING compares to the RX8... For the rest... the MS3 is a winner.

Carlos

Now you see what you did? You posted some facts and angered the local troll.
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Originally Posted by Betelgeuse
Now you see what you did? You posted some facts and angered the local troll.
Now you see what you did? You lacked enough intelligence to read and comprehend at the same time...not that it surprises me...you wear a bib for the drool leaking outta your mouth too?
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
Which is stupid but obviously important to turblown-econoboxen...

Umm. That joke was inreference to the GTO, which is the 3700lb car that was referred to. You swung and missed on that one buddy. Try again!!
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Originally Posted by Ike
Whooping your *** around a twisty track is pretty important as well. Being able to do so with 330whp from basic boltons, 4 wicker chairs for the patio in the back seat, and a new lawn mower to keep the yard nice and pretty iin the trunk, and getting better gas mileage is just gravy. Have I mentioned how well my car handles in the snow?

Alright. This thread is now the EVO vs RX8. Which is better?
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Originally Posted by VikingDJ
Umm. That joke was inreference to the GTO, which is the 3700lb car that was referred to. You swung and missed on that one buddy. Try again!!
Umm no...see going in a straight line fast is ALSO important to the turblown-econoboxen if you havent noticed brainiac...Next time show up to the baseball game ok?

BTW the GTO is pathetic when it comes to doing ANYTHING other than going in a straight line. Looks kinda like a buick...but with alot less creativity...
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Originally Posted by VikingDJ
Alright. This thread is now the EVO vs RX8. Which is better?
Simple...teh crossfire...
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Originally Posted by Pololo_RX8
This is just crazy... Why can't we accept that Mazda made a "better" car altogether? As I originally said, looks, engine sound and handling NOTHING compares to the RX8... For the rest... the MS3 is a winner.

Carlos
BTW, market dynamics created the MS3...its cheaper to make and cater to the fast and furious market on a commonly shared platform...its tremendously less expensive due to shared components in the family line...its more expensive and would have cannibalized sales of the MS3 if they released anything else...

The value proposition for bringing a turblown econobox to the market to compete in the segment is why it exists. Simply going fast in a straight does not make something better in the realm of performance. Had Mazda released a turblown rotary it would have cost them a significant amount of money just bringing it to market due to the single purpose components. Add FI to an RX and it goes fast in a straight line too...thankfully most people dont care JUST about that...except for people in mustangs...and GTO's and stuff...
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I have never seen a single user post so many threads in such short succession with no useful information of any kind.
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HORRIBLE GRAMUR FIXED

FROM:
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I have never seen a single user post so many threads in such short succession with no useful information of any kind.
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Originally Posted by saturn
I have never seen a single user post so many times in a thread in such short succession with no useful information of any kind.
You ever seen the Nalin thread or the toe-ghey thread? Heh...same stuff here...

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Originally Posted by Pololo_RX8
Ok, This thread has gone nowhere... and I honestly don't think you know what you are talking about. The "red" car as you say you "tested" has NEVER gone to a track event!!! I know the owner and I have driven this car as well. I know where the car is and what is being done to it.

The car that went to the event is a silver and IT'S STOCK!!!! even the wheels are stock... so please make sure you get your facts right before you write them here.

I own the MS3 now (I MISS my RX8 no doubt) and I was one of the guys that initiated the MS3 drive near Austin. However this specific day when you "tested" the car I wasn't able to attend otherwise I am sure the only thing you would have been able to see would have been my bumper...

This is just crazy... Why can't we accept that Mazda made a "better" car altogether? As I originally said, looks, engine sound and handling NOTHING compares to the RX8... For the rest... the MS3 is a winner.

Carlos
Please read the post you're referring to. I said he had stock wheels and was on street tires, and that he couldn't keep up, except for on the straights. I was impressed with his driving ability, I gave credit where credit was due. I was helping you out but now you've pissed me off. Get the **** out unless you have something to contribute.

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It was a silver MS3. Looked stock except for the exhaust. I think he was on OEM tires as well, which adds to how impressive it is.

But then again, the driver matters most.

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Originally Posted by Michael
Please read the post you're referring to. I said he had stock wheels and was on street tires, and that he couldn't keep up, except for on the straights. I was impressed with his driving ability, I gave credit where credit was due. I was helping you out but now you've pissed me off. Get the **** out unless you have something to contribute.
Dude its because the fanboi's dont bother to READ things first...hell I even asked a question and said "IF IT WAS RED" because I actually bothered to read the post and thought perhaps you met the same guy. But apparently some people forgot thier hukt on foniks lessons and decided to troll.

I for one am glad he didnt go on the hill country ride that day, those other guys are pretty cool and we had a good time. Had mister jackass went I'm sure it would have ended badly.

I for one was impressed with how well the MS3 did that day when I was at TWS, I totally respect that guy. I'm sure you came away with the same mentality. But I also know that its not the tool, but the driver. Hell even on a kart track with equal karts, the instructors and better drivers still win. Driver makes the car, not the other way around.
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vote ban: eviltwinkie?
Awww...why? Cause you lack the ability to constructively debate without getting your wito fewings hurt or cause your a whiney little emo kid...

Open your legs up a little bit...might help get some of that sand out of your vagina...
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Indeed what Michael said was "It was a silver MS3. Looked stock except for the exhaust" and this is what I was referring to.

Mr Michael: My comment was not directed at you.

Mr Eviltwinkie stated that he "knew the car" that was there and it was RED, and he was referring to last weekend!!! Unless last weekend was in April" I believe the only car that was at TWS was a silver MS3. I know that car as well and I know it's stock!!

Bottom line is that I have NEVER seen anybody ARGUING with everybody on the forum posting SO MANY USELESS threads and making him look MORE AND MORE like an ***...

I am glad I didn't go to the MS3 get together and for once, since I am one of the organizers, and you will NOT be invited back, as your attitude sucks and your level of comprehension obviously lacks any common sense.

Why can't we agree that the RX8 is a DRIVERS car(looks and handling are hard to top!!) and the MS3 is GOOD car(has everything else: power, utility, consumption and reliability)

The MS3 will NEVER be an RX8 and they have their own strengths and weaknesses.

Carlos


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