RX8 VS Mazdaspeed 3
06-07-2007, 05:21 PM
#176
Check the walls in your room, are they padded? I ask because you seem to be arguing with an imaginary person. I guess that imaginary person is feeling bad about his car and reaching for support. Maybe you and that person can start another thread. Or you can just take your meds like you're probably supposed to and all the voices in your head will just go away.
06-07-2007, 07:18 PM
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good Lord this thread sucks, I can't believe some of the responses I'm reading. So fwd is not the end of the world, yes, ok, we get it. Find me the last fwd car to win Lemans, a cart race, or even nascar. Jeebus, this a fwd drive car that is boosted, so what's the f-in shocker it has more power than the 8 and it might be faster. I have an idea, how about we find a faster 1.3 liter stock NA motor with more hp per liter than the 8 has, show me that, please. one of the trolls said, "how is the renesis better than the 2.3 etc.?" Well there's several reasons it's better, it's smaller, probably lighter, revs higher, can produce ridiculous power numbers with only 3 moving parts and 1.3l to work with, without FI, there's also the advantage of it operating more smoothly due to less moving parts which in turn causes less vibration under idle which is nice, if you're into that kind of thing, I won't even get into the exhaust note it produces etc etc. So okay, it's thirsty, ANY car driven hard is thirsty, and it's not like the rotary engine is renowned for fuel efficiency anyway. Yes it burns oil as part of the way its designed, cry me a river that you have to keep an eye on the oil level, people should be doing that anyway regardless of engine to begin with. So the boosted 4 banger has higher HP, well f-in duh, it's almost double the displacement AND it has a turbo (albeit a poorly designed one), of frickin' course it will have more power, it's just simple logic that it will, it's not rocket science here. Bottom line, they're both cool cars, they both do what they were designed to do well, you really can't go wrong with either one, so pick whatever you like and be done with it, simple. I might add, if your car buying decision is based on other people's (especially the interweb...yikes) opinions, then maybe you have bigger issues than what car to buy next. /thread
06-07-2007, 09:42 PM
#182
i pwn therefore i am
If you cant laugh at yourself then your a sad sad little man...moving on...
Nothing is wrong with an econobox with a turbo slapped on...hell the honda ricers do it all the time! You go boys!
And of course you can say the same things about the evo and sti...altho at least the WRX was designed with AWD in mind and was not born from a lancer...
EVO = Lancer + Turbo...haa haa...its still a lancer...
Good to know you can at least acknowledge that fact...or was that another sad attempt at seriousness?
Nothing is wrong with an econobox with a turbo slapped on...hell the honda ricers do it all the time! You go boys!
And of course you can say the same things about the evo and sti...altho at least the WRX was designed with AWD in mind and was not born from a lancer...
EVO = Lancer + Turbo...haa haa...its still a lancer...
Good to know you can at least acknowledge that fact...or was that another sad attempt at seriousness?
06-08-2007, 02:22 AM
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So okay, it's thirsty, ANY car driven hard is thirsty, and it's not like the rotary engine is renowned for fuel efficiency anyway. Yes it burns oil as part of the way its designed, cry me a river that you have to keep an eye on the oil level, people should be doing that anyway regardless of engine to begin with. So the boosted 4 banger has higher HP, well f-in duh, it's almost double the displacement AND it has a turbo (albeit a poorly designed one), of frickin' course it will have more power, it's just simple logic that it will, it's not rocket science here.
06-08-2007, 12:32 PM
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I personally don't care if a car is based off a retarded squirrel with a penchant for eating rocks -- if it makes me happy what difference does it make? There are so many different characteristics a car has that determine its worth to any one person that the idea of considering where the design started as even something worth mentioning is extremely bizarre to me.
06-08-2007, 07:14 PM
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Any car with a shared platform, I can see where compromises were made, usually for the worse. It may not mean much to you, but the 8 would be a very different car is it was based off a Mazda 6, or a Miata off a Mazda 3, etc. Conversely, a 350z would be a much better car if it was designed from the ground up.
06-08-2007, 10:26 PM
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i'm with the "let the MS3 lovers enjoy their ride and i'll enjoy my RX8" view. Whether one is faster than the other but less fun to drive or vice versa is not what i get caught up in. I like the experience a RWD sporty car gives me and the high revving rotary is what i like....other guys would rather sacrifice the fun to have the power. Whatever gets you going. I wish i was rich enough to buy more cars and drive everything but i'm not so i prioritize what i like and the RX8 fit the bill.
06-08-2007, 11:16 PM
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Again, I own a Speed 3, which I purchased after the lease on my 8 came up. Here's the best insight I can provide:
There's no need to be so defensive about the 8 not being the fastest car on the road. It's a fantastic car and it fits the driver like a glove. Yes, it is far from the fastest thing out there, but you're simply not driving it right if the thing doesn't plaster a smile all over your face every time you leave the house, and that's what really matters with cars like this.
The MS3 is a great car on its own merits. The thing goes like hell, and it handles so well you'll forget it's an FWD car. Problem is, it lacks refinement and the greenhouse feels clunky and awkward around the driver due to the car being originally built for practicality, economy and comfort rather than performance.
So, basically, the 3's faster, but the 8's a better drive. The end.
There's no need to be so defensive about the 8 not being the fastest car on the road. It's a fantastic car and it fits the driver like a glove. Yes, it is far from the fastest thing out there, but you're simply not driving it right if the thing doesn't plaster a smile all over your face every time you leave the house, and that's what really matters with cars like this.
The MS3 is a great car on its own merits. The thing goes like hell, and it handles so well you'll forget it's an FWD car. Problem is, it lacks refinement and the greenhouse feels clunky and awkward around the driver due to the car being originally built for practicality, economy and comfort rather than performance.
So, basically, the 3's faster, but the 8's a better drive. The end.
06-11-2007, 07:19 PM
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It's a Cavalier
I honestly secretly enjoy the RX8 vs "fill in the blank", and the MS3 threads are the most entertaining. The fact that you guys incessantly fret about how the RX8 compares to other cars is one of the tenets of RX8club's culture.
06-11-2007, 08:11 PM
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06-11-2007, 09:33 PM
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06-12-2007, 01:08 AM
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