RX8 VS Mazdaspeed 3
06-13-2007, 12:31 PM
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Sweet...more fodder from sir-back pedal...
OHHH REALLY??? Then why mention it if I was asking him a question and clearly you could see I never said it was there? Nice attempt to back pedal...
So from this post...
AND this one...
YOU managed to miss the "IF ITS A RED ONE" you know...as in asking a question...since in his original post that I read...he stated...
Which lacked color information and since I WAS NOT there I was curious if it was the same one...
HOWEVER you somehow got to this...probably because you lack reading comprehension and intelligence...
Yea...your lame excuses dont work here buddy especially with people who know how to read properly...
Thats mainly because I dont create "THREADS" I "POST"...and usually only constructive things when its a useful thread...unlike this one which is filled with the fanboi gang acting like jackasses...
Umm...dude hate to break it to you but we've been doing drives for a hell of a lot longer then you have or probably will...
Altho you made me cry a little bit cause I wasnt invited to your party haa haa haa...
Leave the playground threats at your preschool...but stay in school as you need the literacy skills...
That was never disagreed with...why you feel that you had to troll is beyond me...at this point just stfu go back to your other forums and stop making yourself look stupid...
By the way...your not invited to my birthday party either! OOOOOOO BUUURRRRNNNNN!!!! HAA HAA HAA
So from this post...
Meh...
Yeah they are fast...and after driving one that had a FMIC and EMU work done to boost power...I came away thinking that it felt..."peppy"...too heavy and I could feel it...
The only one that I could say was decent was at TWS...a heavily modded red one...
Still doesnt do it for me...
Yeah they are fast...and after driving one that had a FMIC and EMU work done to boost power...I came away thinking that it felt..."peppy"...too heavy and I could feel it...
The only one that I could say was decent was at TWS...a heavily modded red one...
Still doesnt do it for me...
If its a red one I know who you are talking about, and YEAH homie is NOT stock at all. Good guy, went out on a hill country drive with thier group and a handful of MS6's and my buddy's STI...fun was had by all...
If your goin to da ranch "Cresson" I'll see you there, you can meet up with the other local RX track *****...ha
If your goin to da ranch "Cresson" I'll see you there, you can meet up with the other local RX track *****...ha
At TWS this weekend there was a modded MS3 running in my group. I'd say he'd have been able to keep up if I hadn't just thrown on the RPF-1's, new tires, and HP+'s.
I was very impressed, it's got a lot more going for it than most people give it credit for.
Then again, he was passing C4S's on the back straight, so you know that he's far from stock. And by passing, I mean buttraping.
The MS3 is the new Neon SRT-4, unfortunately.
I was very impressed, it's got a lot more going for it than most people give it credit for.
Then again, he was passing C4S's on the back straight, so you know that he's far from stock. And by passing, I mean buttraping.
The MS3 is the new Neon SRT-4, unfortunately.
HOWEVER you somehow got to this...probably because you lack reading comprehension and intelligence...
Altho you made me cry a little bit cause I wasnt invited to your party haa haa haa...
Leave the playground threats at your preschool...but stay in school as you need the literacy skills...
By the way...your not invited to my birthday party either! OOOOOOO BUUURRRRNNNNN!!!! HAA HAA HAA
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06-13-2007, 02:27 PM
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Um no, you see the date would end when I noticed he was having trouble reading the menu and started making wild unfounded accusations for no reason...
I cool with anyone trying to "smoke me out"...just duno how we can hotbox your big wheel...
I cool with anyone trying to "smoke me out"...just duno how we can hotbox your big wheel...
06-13-2007, 02:40 PM
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I think I'll be making a thread in Suggestions that would propose a mechanism to disallow people from signing up JUST to troll a thread. It's a waste of bandwidth.
We should institute a fishbowl period. If you don't do something constructive in your first 5 posts your account gets reviewed, and consequently deleted if you suck at life.
Eviltwinkie, you're a bit harder on the Evo than you need to be. I've liked my experiences driving them. I wouldn't go as far as to say they're God's gift to the car community, but they're certainly worthy of being considered in the same strata as an RX-8. I know that people like [insert resident troll here] make that hard to see, but by stooping/stopping to argue about it he's putting the RX-8 on par.
In addition, I've got to say that this argument isn't going to fulfill your mental aerobics for the day by a LONG shot. Your brain's going to get fat.
We should institute a fishbowl period. If you don't do something constructive in your first 5 posts your account gets reviewed, and consequently deleted if you suck at life.
Eviltwinkie, you're a bit harder on the Evo than you need to be. I've liked my experiences driving them. I wouldn't go as far as to say they're God's gift to the car community, but they're certainly worthy of being considered in the same strata as an RX-8. I know that people like [insert resident troll here] make that hard to see, but by stooping/stopping to argue about it he's putting the RX-8 on par.
In addition, I've got to say that this argument isn't going to fulfill your mental aerobics for the day by a LONG shot. Your brain's going to get fat.
06-13-2007, 02:48 PM
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I think I'll be making a thread in Suggestions that would propose a mechanism to disallow people from signing up JUST to troll a thread. It's a waste of bandwidth.
We should institute a fishbowl period. If you don't do something constructive in your first 5 posts your account gets reviewed, and consequently deleted if you suck at life.
We should institute a fishbowl period. If you don't do something constructive in your first 5 posts your account gets reviewed, and consequently deleted if you suck at life.
Eviltwinkie, you're a bit harder on the Evo than you need to be. I've liked my experiences driving them. I wouldn't go as far as to say they're God's gift to the car community, but they're certainly worthy of being considered in the same strata as an RX-8. I know that people like [insert resident troll here] make that hard to see, but by stooping/stopping to argue about it he's putting the RX-8 on par.
Agreed, however it does give me an opportunity to post more cat pics and try to get this lame thread closed...heh
06-13-2007, 02:52 PM
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I think I'll be making a thread in Suggestions that would propose a mechanism to disallow people from signing up JUST to troll a thread. It's a waste of bandwidth.
We should institute a fishbowl period. If you don't do something constructive in your first 5 posts your account gets reviewed, and consequently deleted if you suck at life.
Eviltwinkie, you're a bit harder on the Evo than you need to be. I've liked my experiences driving them. I wouldn't go as far as to say they're God's gift to the car community, but they're certainly worthy of being considered in the same strata as an RX-8. I know that people like [insert resident troll here] make that hard to see, but by stooping/stopping to argue about it he's putting the RX-8 on par.
In addition, I've got to say that this argument isn't going to fulfill your mental aerobics for the day by a LONG shot. Your brain's going to get fat.
We should institute a fishbowl period. If you don't do something constructive in your first 5 posts your account gets reviewed, and consequently deleted if you suck at life.
Eviltwinkie, you're a bit harder on the Evo than you need to be. I've liked my experiences driving them. I wouldn't go as far as to say they're God's gift to the car community, but they're certainly worthy of being considered in the same strata as an RX-8. I know that people like [insert resident troll here] make that hard to see, but by stooping/stopping to argue about it he's putting the RX-8 on par.
In addition, I've got to say that this argument isn't going to fulfill your mental aerobics for the day by a LONG shot. Your brain's going to get fat.
However, the RX-8 is not even remotely on par with the Evo. If you can't come to terms with that I don't know what to tell you (this isn't directed specifically at you Michael just in general). My best friend drives an evo that with barely any modifications dyno'd 330whp on monday, I drive the car a lot and it's just a far better performance machine than the rx-8. Before anyone starts saying oh bla bla bla but you're comparing a tuned evo vs. your mildly tuned rx-8 you should know we bought our cars within 2 weeks of each other. We've both been letting each other drive our cars since day 1 stock for stock... and we both agree the evo is the better all around performer but the rx8 is the better daily you can consistantly have fun with despite it's gas mileage...
can't we just let it go?
06-13-2007, 02:59 PM
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However, the RX-8 is not even remotely on par with the Evo. If you can't come to terms with that I don't know what to tell you (this isn't directed specifically at you Michael just in general). My best friend drives an evo that with barely any modifications dyno'd 330whp on monday, I drive the car a lot and it's just a far better performance machine than the rx-8. Before anyone starts saying oh bla bla bla but you're comparing a tuned evo vs. your mildly tuned rx-8 you should know we bought our cars within 2 weeks of each other. We've both been letting each other drive our cars since day 1 stock for stock... and we both agree the evo is the better all around performer but the rx8 is the better daily you can consistantly have fun with despite it's gas mileage...
NOPE...any other questions?
Man...this thread keeps flailing...I keep pumping magical silver thread-killing bullets into this thing and it keeps on going...its bleeding all over the place and it keeps on living...
06-13-2007, 03:02 PM
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Find me an occurrence where a rx-8 beats an evo on a track? K thanks. I'll be waiting for a while. 
better just start posting cat pictures and deffer away from this one.
better just start posting cat pictures and deffer away from this one.
06-13-2007, 03:05 PM
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Find me an occurance when your subjective opinion mattered...kthx I'll be waiting a while...better start ranting and becoming abusive mr. anger management problem...
06-13-2007, 03:07 PM
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However, the RX-8 is not even remotely on par with the Evo. If you can't come to terms with that I don't know what to tell you (this isn't directed specifically at you Michael just in general). My best friend drives an evo that with barely any modifications dyno'd 330whp on monday, I drive the car a lot and it's just a far better performance machine than the rx-8. Before anyone starts saying oh bla bla bla but you're comparing a tuned evo vs. your mildly tuned rx-8 you should know we bought our cars within 2 weeks of each other. We've both been letting each other drive our cars since day 1 stock for stock... and we both agree the evo is the better all around performer but the rx8 is the better daily you can consistantly have fun with despite it's gas mileage...
can't we just let it go?
can't we just let it go?
There are several evo's (mostly VIII's, not sure if the generation matters) that run at TWS w/ the Porsche Club and you can't comprehend how frustrating it is to let them pass on the long straight, catch them and pass them in turn 7, only to have them pass on the back straight again. It's the case in every run group, which eliminates the "driver" argument.
I'll put it this way. For a car with AWD, the balance that the car possesses, and the power it comes with from the factory, it should be running circles around me, at least at TWS. Hopefully the Evo X will be able to do that. Mind you, I've also got an AWD platform that I run at the same track, and it's not hindered?
I don't think the RX-8 is a good daily. It's the epitome of a terrible daily. Uncomfortable, terrible AC, rattles, bad gas mileage, cup WARMER, tight visibility, stands out to police, etc. I'm ONLY basing my Evo v.s. 8 observations on PERSONAL TRACK experience, in several venues. I'd actually say that the Evo is probably the better daily, despite the interior. Wingless it hardly stands out (much like a Legacy GT) in the right color.
Question: have you ever actually driven your car in competitive events? I'm not talking about a drag strip. It seems that you should be driving an Evo, by your logic.
06-13-2007, 03:09 PM
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haha just as always, you can't provide any evidence, avoid the real question and go on insulting people to try and make up for it. Great work as always
^ this was to twinkie.
No, I love rear wheel drive too much and the fact that my car never breaks despite my pounding on it and autocrossing it. So I'm just fine with the RX-8. My mission wasn't to buy the absolute fastest car available to me, I wanted something I could enjoy inside and out. That's why I have the RX-8.
^ this was to twinkie.
No, I love rear wheel drive too much and the fact that my car never breaks despite my pounding on it and autocrossing it. So I'm just fine with the RX-8. My mission wasn't to buy the absolute fastest car available to me, I wanted something I could enjoy inside and out. That's why I have the RX-8.
06-13-2007, 03:10 PM
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It's pretty even on even a track like TWS, look at the layout and it's not a tight course at all.
06-13-2007, 03:11 PM
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06-13-2007, 03:13 PM
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I don't think the RX-8 is a good daily. It's the epitome of a terrible daily. Uncomfortable, terrible AC, rattles, bad gas mileage, cup WARMER, tight visibility, stands out to police, etc. I'm ONLY basing my Evo v.s. 8 observations on PERSONAL TRACK experience, in several venues. I'd actually say that the Evo is probably the better daily, despite the interior. Wingless it hardly stands out (much like a Legacy GT) in the right color.
06-13-2007, 03:16 PM
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EDIT: As seen on my z06 clip from TWS...where I FINALLY let him pass thinking that perhaps he was faster only to realize he was not, and then take it back...in that case I'm going to say the driver needed to be better as I'm sure a z06 should have been faster...I would hope...but that long straight...jeeeebus christ that thing can accelerate...
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06-13-2007, 03:18 PM
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I didn't really have any strong feelings about the suspension in the Evo, in the autocross the only real difference was AWD and shorter time in 2nd gear.
I believe that credit should be given where credit is due, so I give the Evo credit for being a hell of a car. But I want someone like Ike or another Evo owner to tell me why it can't keep up, as it's faster on paper, and in a straight line.
I bought my RX-8 because I couldn't deal with a 2 seater, because I couldn't deal with the looks of an Evo or STi, and because it was $11,000 cheaper than an Evo or STi. Had I known how beautifully you can get an 04 Cobra to handle on a road course, I might have gone for a different FR to play in. It's about the equivalent of a C5 Z06 after some choice suspension mods.
06-13-2007, 03:33 PM
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Then you'll also be interested to hear that after putting 18x9.5 Enkei RPF1's wrapped in 275/35/18 KDW's, that the ride is UNGODLY smooth. I'm used to the suspension in a 745Li and the ride is night and day, stock wheels v.s. wider wheels. Granted, I'll lose some of that when I properly decamber them (.6* in the front and 1.2* in the back), I couldn't believe the difference they made, as I was expecting no change.
I didn't really have any strong feelings about the suspension in the Evo, in the autocross the only real difference was AWD and shorter time in 2nd gear.
I believe that credit should be given where credit is due, so I give the Evo credit for being a hell of a car. But I want someone like Ike or another Evo owner to tell me why it can't keep up, as it's faster on paper, and in a straight line.
I bought my RX-8 because I couldn't deal with a 2 seater, because I couldn't deal with the looks of an Evo or STi, and because it was $11,000 cheaper than an Evo or STi. Had I known how beautifully you can get an 04 Cobra to handle on a road course, I might have gone for a different FR to play in. It's about the equivalent of a C5 Z06 after some choice suspension mods.
I didn't really have any strong feelings about the suspension in the Evo, in the autocross the only real difference was AWD and shorter time in 2nd gear.
I believe that credit should be given where credit is due, so I give the Evo credit for being a hell of a car. But I want someone like Ike or another Evo owner to tell me why it can't keep up, as it's faster on paper, and in a straight line.
I bought my RX-8 because I couldn't deal with a 2 seater, because I couldn't deal with the looks of an Evo or STi, and because it was $11,000 cheaper than an Evo or STi. Had I known how beautifully you can get an 04 Cobra to handle on a road course, I might have gone for a different FR to play in. It's about the equivalent of a C5 Z06 after some choice suspension mods.
Speaking of cobras w/ IRS...the other vid clip I had was a cobra that got in my way as I was trying to chase down a spec miata...bastard refused to give me the pass because it was the final lap...so I pitched a campfire inside his trunk and got him to break the rear loose a few times...clip showed that exit speed from a corner is more important than raw power...even at WOT he bearly started pulling on the straight...
06-13-2007, 03:47 PM
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Speaking of cobras w/ IRS...the other vid clip I had was a cobra that got in my way as I was trying to chase down a spec miata...bastard refused to give me the pass because it was the final lap...so I pitched a campfire inside his trunk and got him to break the rear loose a few times...clip showed that exit speed from a corner is more important than raw power...even at WOT he bearly started pulling on the straight...
Now I just stick around in their mirror, a couple carlengths back, after the initial "i'm faster than you and you should have waved me by already gtfo of here tailgate"
The Vobra (hehe) that always impresses me is the Red '04 with black powdercoated wheels. He tosses that thing around nicely.
06-13-2007, 04:01 PM
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That was my biggest problem trying to get people to notice me, I'd tailgate too much, thinking it would help expedite the process, and on a turn like corner 6, you **** up your line and lose all exit speed and then they won't wave you by.
Now I just stick around in their mirror, a couple carlengths back, after the initial "i'm faster than you and you should have waved me by already gtfo of here tailgate"
The Vobra (hehe) that always impresses me is the Red '04 with black powdercoated wheels. He tosses that thing around nicely.
Now I just stick around in their mirror, a couple carlengths back, after the initial "i'm faster than you and you should have waved me by already gtfo of here tailgate"
The Vobra (hehe) that always impresses me is the Red '04 with black powdercoated wheels. He tosses that thing around nicely.
Havent had the pleasure of running into that Red one yet...but I'll keep my eyes peeled...I'm trying to convince my friend to take his 03, but his clutch is kinda messed up a bit...a few mods put him past 500whp and now hes bitchin about having to replace the clutch haa haa...
06-13-2007, 04:03 PM
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Again, if you read my post it wasn't directed towards you. It was at twinkie. However it's all relative, but trying to say the rx8 is on par with an evo in terms of sheer performance is just being ignorant. Sorry to say it, but it's true.
06-13-2007, 04:06 PM
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So anger management issues AND attention deficit...nice...