Rx8 Or 350Z..
12-17-2003, 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by zthang
I guess i'll chime in here about the Z...
I love my Z. Not only does it look way better than the RX-8, but will out accellerate it easily. :D
I guess i'll chime in here about the Z...
I love my Z. Not only does it look way better than the RX-8, but will out accellerate it easily. :D
I love my 94 Rx-7. Not only does it look way better than the 350Z, but will out accellerate it, out brake it, out handle it, pull better skid pad #'s, Murder the 350Z on any track, much more fun to drive, 500 lbs lighter, better slalum numbers, Several catagories above the 350Z in the SCCA Handling rankings (actually the TOP catagory, SS). Oh yea and thats just in stock form, a modded one like mine makes even a bigger joke of the 350Z.
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12-17-2003, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by zerobanger
Let me chime in here.
I love my 94 Rx-7. Not only does it look way better than the 350Z, but will out accellerate it, out brake it, out handle it, pull better skid pad #'s, Murder the 350Z on any track, much funner to drive, better slalum numbers, Several catagories above the 350Z in the SCCA Handling rankings (actually the TOP catagory, SS). Oh yea and thats just in stock form, a modded one like mine makes even a bigger joke of the 350Z.
Let me chime in here.
I love my 94 Rx-7. Not only does it look way better than the 350Z, but will out accellerate it, out brake it, out handle it, pull better skid pad #'s, Murder the 350Z on any track, much funner to drive, better slalum numbers, Several catagories above the 350Z in the SCCA Handling rankings (actually the TOP catagory, SS). Oh yea and thats just in stock form, a modded one like mine makes even a bigger joke of the 350Z.
12-17-2003, 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by 350z Driver
I totally agree, I heard lots of nitemare storys of servicing the RX8's and the issues they are having unless they drive like a woman in it
I totally agree, I heard lots of nitemare storys of servicing the RX8's and the issues they are having unless they drive like a woman in it
12-17-2003, 12:27 PM
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I looked hard at both cars and went with a Z Roadster.
The two big issues for me were -
1. back seat - I don't want one at all. Advantage Z
2. torque - 159 lb/ft for the rx8 is really weak imo. Advantage Z
The two big issues for me were -
1. back seat - I don't want one at all. Advantage Z
2. torque - 159 lb/ft for the rx8 is really weak imo. Advantage Z
12-17-2003, 12:33 PM
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Hey Okinawan Majik,
How about letting all of us know what Mazda dealer that you work for. I think everyone on this forum should know this so no one would bring their car to you for sevice since everyone there hates the RX8.
What a great attitude, maybe you should be working at the Nissan dealer instead? They will need all the help they can get when they start replacing cam sensors.
How about letting all of us know what Mazda dealer that you work for. I think everyone on this forum should know this so no one would bring their car to you for sevice since everyone there hates the RX8.
What a great attitude, maybe you should be working at the Nissan dealer instead? They will need all the help they can get when they start replacing cam sensors.
12-17-2003, 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Bigcat44
Lets see you are incorrect when you say there are 4 total, my car had the crank sensor, headlights, MAFS, Ignition coils, Sunroof noise and I can keep going if you would like. I had an SE and the reason for the difference in recalls even though they are the same generation is because Nissan classifies it's generations off of body styles and not engines. They changed from the VQ30 to the VQ35DE in 2k2 and then as you could tell changed body styles but kept the engine for 2k4.
Lets see you are incorrect when you say there are 4 total, my car had the crank sensor, headlights, MAFS, Ignition coils, Sunroof noise and I can keep going if you would like. I had an SE and the reason for the difference in recalls even though they are the same generation is because Nissan classifies it's generations off of body styles and not engines. They changed from the VQ30 to the VQ35DE in 2k2 and then as you could tell changed body styles but kept the engine for 2k4.
The headlights issue isn't really a recall. It's pseudo-recall if you live in high HID theft areas (like NY and NJ) where they put on data dots and I think change the brackets. If you don't live in a high HID theft area, you don't get it.
How many recall notices did you get in the mail? I assert you received 3 (or 4 if you count the lights, but you don't live in a high HID theft area) at most.
Correct they changed engines in at the 2K2 model year. But, the one that affected a limited # of GLEs wasn't engine related, nor was the transverse link one.
12-17-2003, 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by FritzMan
Until it goes KABOOOM! Your time will come as 80% of the other FD owners out there (myself included). I still kept the car and dealt with the issues, but be realistic about it's "advantages" eh.
Until it goes KABOOOM! Your time will come as 80% of the other FD owners out there (myself included). I still kept the car and dealt with the issues, but be realistic about it's "advantages" eh.
When it goes "KABOOOM" again in a few years (or sooner), I will pay it again. I never said anything about reliability, but I will say my roommates 350Z which he baby's has had 3 ECU's, atleast 3 recalls, brake problems, tire problems, replaced shocks/struts and some other things with less than 7K miles on the car.
Cars are about compromise, if you cant afford to maintain an Rx-7 get a less sportscar like a 350Z.
12-17-2003, 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by zerobanger
sooner)but I will say my roommates 350Z which he baby's has had 3 ECU's, atleast 3 recalls,.
sooner)but I will say my roommates 350Z which he baby's has had 3 ECU's, atleast 3 recalls,.
Perhaps some people here don't know the meaning of "recall". Regardless, it sounds like his was a lemon.
12-17-2003, 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by cwerdna
What are you talking about? There aren't even 3 recalls on the 350Z! There's only 1, and it's only on the 03 for the crankshaft position sensor. It supposedly only affects 171 of them. See http://www.cars.com/news/stories/103...y&aff=national .
Perhaps some people here don't know the meaning of "recall". Regardless, it sounds like his was a lemon.
What are you talking about? There aren't even 3 recalls on the 350Z! There's only 1, and it's only on the 03 for the crankshaft position sensor. It supposedly only affects 171 of them. See http://www.cars.com/news/stories/103...y&aff=national .
Perhaps some people here don't know the meaning of "recall". Regardless, it sounds like his was a lemon.
12-17-2003, 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by cwerdna
You talked about recalls, not other problems. There are NO recalls on the MAF, coils and sunroof. The crank sensor doesn't affect all 2K2s. Nissan told me that my particular VIN is unaffected. Go look at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...callsearch.cfm and look up the 2K2 Max. You'll see only 3 recalls: 1 for the accelerator stopper, 1 for tranvserse link, and 1 for the crankshaft position sensor.
The headlights issue isn't really a recall. It's pseudo-recall if you live in high HID theft areas (like NY and NJ) where they put on data dots and I think change the brackets. If you don't live in a high HID theft area, you don't get it.
How many recall notices did you get in the mail? I assert you received 3 (or 4 if you count the lights, but you don't live in a high HID theft area) at most.
Correct they changed engines in at the 2K2 model year. But, the one that affected a limited # of GLEs wasn't engine related, nor was the transverse link one.
You talked about recalls, not other problems. There are NO recalls on the MAF, coils and sunroof. The crank sensor doesn't affect all 2K2s. Nissan told me that my particular VIN is unaffected. Go look at http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...callsearch.cfm and look up the 2K2 Max. You'll see only 3 recalls: 1 for the accelerator stopper, 1 for tranvserse link, and 1 for the crankshaft position sensor.
The headlights issue isn't really a recall. It's pseudo-recall if you live in high HID theft areas (like NY and NJ) where they put on data dots and I think change the brackets. If you don't live in a high HID theft area, you don't get it.
How many recall notices did you get in the mail? I assert you received 3 (or 4 if you count the lights, but you don't live in a high HID theft area) at most.
Correct they changed engines in at the 2K2 model year. But, the one that affected a limited # of GLEs wasn't engine related, nor was the transverse link one.
12-17-2003, 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by zerobanger
Cars are about compromise, if you cant afford to maintain an Rx-7 get a less sportscar like a 350Z.
Cars are about compromise, if you cant afford to maintain an Rx-7 get a less sportscar like a 350Z.
12-17-2003, 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by FritzMan
...or and RX-8. Your previous posting is not applicable to just the 350Z.
...or and RX-8. Your previous posting is not applicable to just the 350Z.
The reason I didn't include the Rx-8 is because the the Rx-7 out shines the 350Z in every catagory. Even gas mileage is decent (I get 16-18 city, 23-25 highway). The Rx-8 on the other hand has features you cant get in an Rx-7 or Z such as a back seat, practical use and comfort.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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no i am not there still...but i was a month and a half ago...its off the hook....i am trying to get a job there and move back there!!!!!
i lived there for 7 years...left in 90 and its completely diff from when i was there!!!
i lived there for 7 years...left in 90 and its completely diff from when i was there!!!
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Originally posted by Sea Ray
Hey Okinawan Majik,
How about letting all of us know what Mazda dealer that you work for. I think everyone on this forum should know this so no one would bring their car to you for sevice since everyone there hates the RX8.
What a great attitude, maybe you should be working at the Nissan dealer instead? They will need all the help they can get when they start replacing cam sensors.
Hey Okinawan Majik,
How about letting all of us know what Mazda dealer that you work for. I think everyone on this forum should know this so no one would bring their car to you for sevice since everyone there hates the RX8.
What a great attitude, maybe you should be working at the Nissan dealer instead? They will need all the help they can get when they start replacing cam sensors.
ohh land rover... we are ranked 5th in the nation mazda service..so they know what they are doing ...3rd gm cadillac service..1 land rover service...we know what we are talking about....but the car..sucks regardless of how good we piece them back together!!!
out techs are good..they just dont like working on ****!!!
12-17-2003, 01:25 PM
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I called the mazda dealer to see how much a reman installed in my rx7 was and they said "It depends on how many valves we have to replace".
yea they know what they are doing, sure.
yea they know what they are doing, sure.
12-17-2003, 01:26 PM
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"Ok, so you are admiting that the rx8 is a sportscar then, right? I did use the term sporstcar, and you did say it applies to the rx-8 also."
I didn't know that it came down to me having to "admit" anything. I don't really care about the exact "sport cars" definition, IMO it can have 4 doors even.
I think the only clearing up you need zerobanger is to justify to yourself that the RX-8 suits your future needs.
I will stick to my earlier assessment that the 350Z felt more sporting to me. May not be the case for the orginal thread author, but everyone has their own unique needs.
BTW, some JDM FDs have a back seat. I seriously considered getting one shipped to me when my son was a new born
I didn't know that it came down to me having to "admit" anything. I don't really care about the exact "sport cars" definition, IMO it can have 4 doors even.
I think the only clearing up you need zerobanger is to justify to yourself that the RX-8 suits your future needs.
I will stick to my earlier assessment that the 350Z felt more sporting to me. May not be the case for the orginal thread author, but everyone has their own unique needs.
BTW, some JDM FDs have a back seat. I seriously considered getting one shipped to me when my son was a new born
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cueball..
if you are a moderator...you should be smart enough to tell a question from a hatchet job troll....i had an honest question....YOUR members got out of hand...not my fault....and a search would not have answered my questions....you should know...you are the moderator....so tell me why did you buy one?
RX7 was flawless.....not engine..we all know that..but it was off the hook...almost 10 years later..its still pimped.....mazda will never be able to repeat that success!!!
RX7 was flawless.....not engine..we all know that..but it was off the hook...almost 10 years later..its still pimped.....mazda will never be able to repeat that success!!!
12-17-2003, 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by FritzMan
"Ok, so you are admiting that the rx8 is a sportscar then, right? I did use the term sporstcar, and you did say it applies to the rx-8 also."
I didn't know that it came down to me having to "admit" anything. I don't really care about the exact "sport cars" definition, IMO it can have 4 doors even.
I think the only clearing up you need zerobanger is to justify to yourself that the RX-8 suits your future needs.
I will stick to my earlier assessment that the 350Z felt more sporting to me. May not be the case for the orginal thread author, but everyone has their own unique needs.
BTW, some JDM FDs have a back seat. I seriously considered getting one shipped to me when my son was a new born.
"Ok, so you are admiting that the rx8 is a sportscar then, right? I did use the term sporstcar, and you did say it applies to the rx-8 also."
I didn't know that it came down to me having to "admit" anything. I don't really care about the exact "sport cars" definition, IMO it can have 4 doors even.
I think the only clearing up you need zerobanger is to justify to yourself that the RX-8 suits your future needs.
I will stick to my earlier assessment that the 350Z felt more sporting to me. May not be the case for the orginal thread author, but everyone has their own unique needs.
BTW, some JDM FDs have a back seat. I seriously considered getting one shipped to me when my son was a new born.
Also, I have no problem with you feeling like the 350Z is more sporty than the Rx-8. Its all a matter of opinion.
Im just tryin' to have fun on an otherwise boring day
About "JDM" FD's having a back seat, some japanese FD's may have had it as an option, I think some country (New Zealand? Australia?) had it as standard and that was the only reason for the option in Japan. Maybe it was in europe that they came stock with a back seat. Eitherway, I am refering to the US Spec FD.
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i have been looking does this site have a gallery that works..or maybe its my comp..i wanna see some really good looking aerokits.....or a site that has them? help please!! search didnt work.
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Don't forget the cost issue. Adjusting for cost of living increases, the RX7 would be about $50,000. This would be close to the Z06, which would outperform it in most venues and $10,000 more than the Lotus Elise that would offer close performance. In addition, both cars would be much more reliable (yes, even a tempermental british car) and get much better fuel economy.
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Originally posted by OKINAWAN MAJIK
no i am not there still...but i was a month and a half ago...its off the hook....i am trying to get a job there and move back there!!!!!
i lived there for 7 years...left in 90 and its completely diff from when i was there!!!
no i am not there still...but i was a month and a half ago...its off the hook....i am trying to get a job there and move back there!!!!!
i lived there for 7 years...left in 90 and its completely diff from when i was there!!!
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Originally posted by Sea Ray
Hey Okinawan Majik,
How about letting all of us know what Mazda dealer that you work for. I think everyone on this forum should know this so no one would bring their car to you for sevice since everyone there hates the RX8.
What a great attitude, maybe you should be working at the Nissan dealer instead? They will need all the help they can get when they start replacing cam sensors.
Hey Okinawan Majik,
How about letting all of us know what Mazda dealer that you work for. I think everyone on this forum should know this so no one would bring their car to you for sevice since everyone there hates the RX8.
What a great attitude, maybe you should be working at the Nissan dealer instead? They will need all the help they can get when they start replacing cam sensors.
That would be
Bob Moore AutoPlex
Oklahoma City OK 73114
PH 405-749-9000
http://www.mooreautoplex.com
or Bob Moore Auto Group
http://www.bobmoore.com
PH 1-800-361-7702
This guy "isn't very bright". Just ask for the guy who was on vacation in Okinawa a month ago
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Since I own and RX8, I am going to biased and say go with the 8. as most of the good informed posts above, it's more practical (4 seats) handles better and in my opinion looks better + you can get canzoomers ECU mod for and amazing price and out accelerate a Z.
12-17-2003, 03:40 PM
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never out excellerate a Z as for the 8 in oki....didnt see one ..but i am sure they are there...i was there on vacation ..oki and nagoya....and yes if you called..they will transfer you to the mazda building..it stands alone..so to not contaminate the other crap cars we have .....nissan in off site...so they are safe!!!
but oki was a blast...we hung out on international street...mostly..and at the hotel avila nikko up near tori station...man i was a kid when i left...stayed 7 years...lived in sunabe!!
but oki was a blast...we hung out on international street...mostly..and at the hotel avila nikko up near tori station...man i was a kid when i left...stayed 7 years...lived in sunabe!!
12-17-2003, 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by revhappy
Don't forget the cost issue. Adjusting for cost of living increases, the RX7 would be about $50,000. This would be close to the Z06, which would outperform it in most venues and $10,000 more than the Lotus Elise that would offer close performance. In addition, both cars would be much more reliable (yes, even a tempermental british car) and get much better fuel economy.
Don't forget the cost issue. Adjusting for cost of living increases, the RX7 would be about $50,000. This would be close to the Z06, which would outperform it in most venues and $10,000 more than the Lotus Elise that would offer close performance. In addition, both cars would be much more reliable (yes, even a tempermental british car) and get much better fuel economy.
To get a true comparison of cost, look at the other cars of the day. It was motor trend that said "The 1993 Rx-7 will outperform every car under 60K and 2/3's of the cars on the other side of that".
If you want to compare, compare to the ZR1. In every catagory with the exception of Acceleration, the Rx-7 brutally raped the ZR-1. For hell of a lot less. Infact, the Rx-7 was priced at about what the pathetic C4 was.