Official GT-R info (pricing!)
10-17-2007, 12:10 PM
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10-17-2007, 12:44 PM
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i watch every episode of best motoring i dont remember any episode of best motoring or hot version that has z06 vs sti, but unless its raining like crazy, i dont see how its possible the sti would even come close to the z06's lap time at tsukuba.
it dosnt make sense because they usually pit cars of the same performance class together, its highly unlikely theyd have stock z06 vs sti on best motoring or hot version in the same race.
it dosnt make sense because they usually pit cars of the same performance class together, its highly unlikely theyd have stock z06 vs sti on best motoring or hot version in the same race.
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10-17-2007, 01:23 PM
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i watch every episode of best motoring i dont remember any episode of best motoring or hot version that has z06 vs sti, but unless its raining like crazy, i dont see how its possible the sti would even come close to the z06's lap time at tsukuba.
it dosnt make sense because they usually pit cars of the same performance class together, its highly unlikely theyd have stock z06 vs sti on best motoring or hot version in the same race.
it dosnt make sense because they usually pit cars of the same performance class together, its highly unlikely theyd have stock z06 vs sti on best motoring or hot version in the same race.
It was the S204 STI and it was the slowest of all the cars on the track in the time attack. The Suby held up the pack for 3 laps so it got the win.
10-17-2007, 01:28 PM
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Uhmm...just to get back on topic for a sec. 
Has any1 seen this?
Curb Weight: 3792 pounds
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../71017001/1065
Maannnn...whaaatt a porker!!! Guess that's to be expected right? <Ahem> Carry on.
Has any1 seen this? Curb Weight: 3792 pounds
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../71017001/1065
Maannnn...whaaatt a porker!!! Guess that's to be expected right? <Ahem> Carry on.
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10-17-2007, 03:25 PM
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Uhmm...just to get back on topic for a sec. Has any1 seen this?
Curb Weight: 3792 pounds
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../71017001/1065
Maannnn...whaaatt a porker!!! Guess that's to be expected right? <Ahem> Carry on.
Has any1 seen this? Curb Weight: 3792 pounds
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../71017001/1065
Maannnn...whaaatt a porker!!! Guess that's to be expected right? <Ahem> Carry on.
10-17-2007, 03:27 PM
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Uhmm...just to get back on topic for a sec. Has any1 seen this?
Curb Weight: 3792 pounds
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../71017001/1065
Maannnn...whaaatt a porker!!! Guess that's to be expected right? <Ahem> Carry on.
Has any1 seen this? Curb Weight: 3792 pounds
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../71017001/1065
Maannnn...whaaatt a porker!!! Guess that's to be expected right? <Ahem> Carry on.
10-17-2007, 04:05 PM
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man.. just go to the homepage and click on it yourself
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage
its got a transaxle mounted on the back, interesting, but how did they make it so heavy? But that just means more potential for a lighter GTR. There are awful lots of gadgets in the GTR, aluminium trim, power seats, etc etc.
it pulls 0.99g too!
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its got a transaxle mounted on the back, interesting, but how did they make it so heavy? But that just means more potential for a lighter GTR. There are awful lots of gadgets in the GTR, aluminium trim, power seats, etc etc.
it pulls 0.99g too!
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10-17-2007, 04:48 PM
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the R-34 is 3672.9 lbs, seems they were never nimble, but this new one really is porky
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3...e-R34-GTR.html
on best motoring they've said that what really makes good handling is linear and predictable progression, what made them not like the c6 vette was due to its unpredictable handling near the limit.
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3...e-R34-GTR.html
on best motoring they've said that what really makes good handling is linear and predictable progression, what made them not like the c6 vette was due to its unpredictable handling near the limit.
10-17-2007, 05:07 PM
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The thing about best motoring is that the results are almost ALWAYS off. In 75% of the races Tsuchiya wins or that one old guy...no matter what car they drive..
type r civic vs STI....civic wins
modded rx8 vs modded civic...civic wins
I love best motoring..but i dont take their results to mean anything
type r civic vs STI....civic wins
modded rx8 vs modded civic...civic wins
I love best motoring..but i dont take their results to mean anything
10-17-2007, 05:32 PM
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The thing about best motoring is that the results are almost ALWAYS off. In 75% of the races Tsuchiya wins or that one old guy...no matter what car they drive..
type r civic vs STI....civic wins
modded rx8 vs modded civic...civic wins
I love best motoring..but i dont take their results to mean anything
type r civic vs STI....civic wins
modded rx8 vs modded civic...civic wins
I love best motoring..but i dont take their results to mean anything
On topic : GT-R was never light, but its potential keep it on the top of the list. and with all the luxury stuff they have in there ... maybe if you take all the stuff out like leather seats and stuff. not hard to get 100 lbs off.
10-17-2007, 09:55 PM
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Uhmm...just to get back on topic for a sec. Has any1 seen this?
Curb Weight: 3792 pounds
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../71017001/1065
Maannnn...whaaatt a porker!!! Guess that's to be expected right? <Ahem> Carry on.
Has any1 seen this? Curb Weight: 3792 pounds
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../71017001/1065
Maannnn...whaaatt a porker!!! Guess that's to be expected right? <Ahem> Carry on.
But still thats just more car to love!
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10-17-2007, 10:55 PM
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Woww... 3800lbs? That's like sticking 5 extra people in the 8 (not including the driver)... Porker is right... I'm hoping alot of that is luxury stuff that can be gutted...
10-17-2007, 11:49 PM
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that is why cars these days are getting more powerful - to offset its increased weight.
10-18-2007, 12:22 AM
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yeah the 3792lbs weight just made me give up on the GTR. Hello Z06! with its quite lean 3132lb weight...
600lbs Lighter! You can't tell me that all wheel drive and LESS power is going to help makeup for that are you?
The unmasking of it... makes me want them to put the mask back on it as well. I'm rather disappointed. Even if they came out with a version thats 300lbs lighter with all fancy carbon fiber this and that - for the price you would pay for all that extra you could buy the Z06 and buy some insane mods and get into 600+HP territory and STILL have money left over.
600lbs Lighter! You can't tell me that all wheel drive and LESS power is going to help makeup for that are you?
The unmasking of it... makes me want them to put the mask back on it as well. I'm rather disappointed. Even if they came out with a version thats 300lbs lighter with all fancy carbon fiber this and that - for the price you would pay for all that extra you could buy the Z06 and buy some insane mods and get into 600+HP territory and STILL have money left over.
10-18-2007, 05:01 AM
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A good driver takes 100 (absolute minimum) to 200 milliseconds to complete each shift, and longer as the race wears down and he gets tired.
A lot slower than an F1 gear box at 30-50 milliseconds but a lot faster than me!
10-18-2007, 05:06 AM
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As for the shifting speed debate... 100ms shift on a manual trans is not that outrageous. And no you will not be shifting 10 times in 1 second. There is no reason to do this since you need to wait for the car to speed up or slow down enough to need a gear change.... Any physically, it is much easier to make one 0.1s shift every half a second or so, than 10 0.1s shifts in a row... Once you get the action into "muscle memory" I'm sure 0.1s can be possible, maybe a little less even. Personally I think I am somewhere around 0.3 (and am working on getting that number down...).