Official GT-R info (pricing!)
10-16-2007, 10:42 PM
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The GTR may beat the ZO6 but not destroy it. Give the ZO6 a little room so the LS7can stretch it's legs and you might have a different outcome. I just don't see the big deal when it comes to the GTR, Nissan will finally bring a car to the US that can outshine the Z. Don't get me wrong I respect the GTR as it is a very capable machine but at the same time I think the GTR is being thrown into an already crowded class of super cars.
10-16-2007, 11:03 PM
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shrug, to each hes own. i think what will ultimately make or break its legacy will depend on what tuners can do with it. i think the GT-R is more known for its tunability than its stock performance. well see, i like it but its too much $ for me, id rather put that kinda dough toward a condo
10-16-2007, 11:15 PM
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I do wonder how much more the tuners will be able to get out of the GTR's engine. I'm guessing their of course will be chassis and suspension mods as well, although the GTR seems to already stick to the road like it's tires are wraped in glue.
10-16-2007, 11:19 PM
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shrug, to each hes own. i think what will ultimately make or break its legacy will depend on what tuners can do with it. i think the GT-R is more known for its tunability than its stock performance. well see, i like it but its too much $ for me, id rather put that kinda dough toward a condo
10-17-2007, 08:47 AM
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I am going to have to agree with you. Given the choice i would take the GTR.
However, i don't see how it could take a Z06 around a track.
Lets assume that the GTR weights 3500lbs and makes 450hp, that would put it at about 7.78 pounds per hp.
The Z06 weights in at 3160lbs and makes 505 crank hp so that puts it at 6.26 pounds per hp.
Thats not a small difference when you talk about going around a race track.
This is also not taking into account what each makes at the wheels, and a AWD system eats up a more power than a RWD layout.
Thats if the GTR weights 3500lbs, and i don't think it will.
I don't see how a car that weights almost 400 pounds more and has 50 less hp is going to go around a track faster than a Z06.
It is not like the GTR badges give it some magical power over physics.
That said, i REALLY want one.
However, i don't see how it could take a Z06 around a track.
Lets assume that the GTR weights 3500lbs and makes 450hp, that would put it at about 7.78 pounds per hp.
The Z06 weights in at 3160lbs and makes 505 crank hp so that puts it at 6.26 pounds per hp.
Thats not a small difference when you talk about going around a race track.
This is also not taking into account what each makes at the wheels, and a AWD system eats up a more power than a RWD layout.
Thats if the GTR weights 3500lbs, and i don't think it will.
I don't see how a car that weights almost 400 pounds more and has 50 less hp is going to go around a track faster than a Z06.
It is not like the GTR badges give it some magical power over physics.
That said, i REALLY want one.
Most important thing, what the car was *originally* build for.
In this case, the GT-R, was designed to be a super sports car. who can turn well on even high speed driving. Well Porshce was their target car so go figure.
Vette .... another pathetic attempt from Chevy .... *muscle car*
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10-17-2007, 08:57 AM
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Wow...that's dead wrong. The base C6, and the C6 Z06 have very little in common and shared architecture. So much so that the Z06 probably shouldn't even be called a Vette.
I find myself sticking up for the Z06 so much on this site...sigh. It's way more than a "muscle car".
I find myself sticking up for the Z06 so much on this site...sigh. It's way more than a "muscle car".
10-17-2007, 09:32 AM
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Wow...that's dead wrong. The base C6, and the C6 Z06 have very little in common and shared architecture. So much so that the Z06 probably shouldn't even be called a Vette.
I find myself sticking up for the Z06 so much on this site...sigh. It's way more than a "muscle car".
I find myself sticking up for the Z06 so much on this site...sigh. It's way more than a "muscle car".
but if u ask me to rate it, it is still in the muscle car category.
Meaning, I dont mind to have 1 for free. but if you want me to buy it. nahhhhhHHH
10-17-2007, 09:38 AM
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10-17-2007, 10:10 AM
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nycgps,
im going to try to be respectful here.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DRIVEN A 06-08 z06 yet. believe me there is no way stock for stock the Sti can hold the Z's jockstrap in anything. ive driven both cars.. and yes if its a very tight course a z06 wont get the power down.. but who drives like that?
im saying this from a person who OWNS a 07 black z06.
you dont know what your talking about.
gooodday.
im going to try to be respectful here.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DRIVEN A 06-08 z06 yet. believe me there is no way stock for stock the Sti can hold the Z's jockstrap in anything. ive driven both cars.. and yes if its a very tight course a z06 wont get the power down.. but who drives like that?
im saying this from a person who OWNS a 07 black z06.
you dont know what your talking about.
gooodday.
10-17-2007, 10:49 AM
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nycgps,
im going to try to be respectful here.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DRIVEN A 06-08 z06 yet. believe me there is no way stock for stock the Sti can hold the Z's jockstrap in anything. ive driven both cars.. and yes if its a very tight course a z06 wont get the power down.. but who drives like that?
im saying this from a person who OWNS a 07 black z06.
you dont know what your talking about.
gooodday.
im going to try to be respectful here.
HAVE YOU ACTUALLY DRIVEN A 06-08 z06 yet. believe me there is no way stock for stock the Sti can hold the Z's jockstrap in anything. ive driven both cars.. and yes if its a very tight course a z06 wont get the power down.. but who drives like that?
im saying this from a person who OWNS a 07 black z06.
you dont know what your talking about.
gooodday.
I never drove one I know.
but it was published on one of the best motoring video. STi kicked the Z06's ***. I was surprised too.
maybe not all the tracks. especially ones with a lot of straights.
Dont make it sound like I made stuff up. go look at the video
*sigh*
10-17-2007, 11:07 AM
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I'm talking about straights, my bad man, and, I hate to say this over and over, but 1 video doesn't really justify it as a whole, but hell, a corvette vs an STI, stock vs stock..............STI win just doesn't compute
