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Old 10-14-2007, 08:42 PM
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After working out with my gyro ball, I can shift gears faster than these f1 trannies with my manual 8. Although, I do have redline mt-90.
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
The SST trans in the 2008 Evolution MR is far more advanced than the german DSG trans, for starters it allows left foot braking during throttle use, the DSG won't

all the reviews have been extremely positive, the SST outlaps the manual
What's your source for saying the SST outlaps the MT?
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http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/16/2...f-motor-trend/
0-60 3.5s
1/4 mile 11.7s
top speed 192mph

wonder what the tunners will do after they get their hands on it

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Originally Posted by shaunv74
- Base: $66,675 alloy wheels
- Black Edition: $68,580 forged wheels, black/red leather seats
- Premium Edition: $71,870, forged wheels, side airbags, Bose,

1/2 the price maybe...
Are these for U.S. prices or Japan market prices?
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
After working out with my gyro ball, I can shift gears faster than these f1 trannies with my manual 8. Although, I do have redline mt-90.
Uh so you can clutch/shift 10 times in a 1 second?

That is the SLOWEST one, the fastest one would do 25 shifts (engaging and disengaging the clutch each time) in 1 second
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no offense but i forsee alot of dead people from this car. If anyone has driven a z06 its just scary fast. and in the wrong hands can be deadly. if alot of fanboi fast and furious nerds buy this car its going to be deadly.

and no offense to you gtr lovers but i think the z06 has WAY more style.

this wont last long if this car is faster than a Z. chevy will retune the z06 or put a blower on it. *from what people at our chevy store say its already been talked about heavily*
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:58 AM
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holy god, I really really want one of these!! but with the extra 60k I think I could buy a 20B swap it in and make it work @.@
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Originally Posted by VarneyMazda
no offense but i forsee alot of dead people from this car. If anyone has driven a z06 its just scary fast. and in the wrong hands can be deadly. if alot of fanboi fast and furious nerds buy this car its going to be deadly.

and no offense to you gtr lovers but i think the z06 has WAY more style.

this wont last long if this car is faster than a Z. chevy will retune the z06 or put a blower on it. *from what people at our chevy store say its already been talked about heavily*
except that Z06 cant even beat an STi on the track. and STi has what about only 2/3 of Z06's hp.

Im completely opposite of you, I think Z06 looks like crap, just like all of its older brothers.

I dont really like the new GT-R either.

the tranny shifts faster than any human being, but I still wont buy it unless they have MT option.

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Originally Posted by tajabaho1
holy god, I really really want one of these!! but with the extra 60k I think I could buy a 20B swap it in and make it work @.@
Im fairly sure with 20b you can get to the stock GT-R's performance.

but as soon as tuners around the world lay their hands on the new GT-R ...
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I am really concerned about the weight of this car. I think we can all agree the Nissan is not very good about keeping their cars very light *cough Z cough*.

I am fairly sure (and correct me if i am wrong) a Z weighs in at about 3200-3400lbs?

They both are baised of the same platform yet the the GTR has a lot more hardware under the hood (turbos, intercooler, pipeing,).

A not so light AWD system.

It is longer and wider than a Z.

It will also have more of the conveyances that come with a 70K car (sunroof, electric everything, sat. nav. nice stereo system)

That figure of 3500lbs is starting to look kind of optimistic.
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Originally Posted by Mech_head
I am really concerned about the weight of this car. I think we can all agree the Nissan is not very good about keeping their cars very light *cough Z cough*.

I am fairly sure (and correct me if i am wrong) a Z weighs in at about 3200-3400lbs?

They both are baised of the same platform yet the the GTR has a lot more hardware under the hood (turbos, intercooler, pipeing,).

A not so light AWD system.

It is longer and wider than a Z.

It will also have more of the conveyances that come with a 70K car (sunroof, electric everything, sat. nav. nice stereo system)

That figure of 3500lbs is starting to look kind of optimistic.
its about 3.5K lbs. a bit more if you want the premium package. but it will be under 3600.

I think even it is 3600 lbs, its still *light weight*, I would get this over any Porshce or even Ferrari.
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Originally Posted by VarneyMazda
no offense but i forsee alot of dead people from this car. If anyone has driven a z06 its just scary fast. and in the wrong hands can be deadly. if alot of fanboi fast and furious nerds buy this car its going to be deadly.

and no offense to you gtr lovers but i think the z06 has WAY more style.

this wont last long if this car is faster than a Z. chevy will retune the z06 or put a blower on it. *from what people at our chevy store say its already been talked about heavily*
Wow... Are you for real? "In the wrong hands" any car is an accident waiting to happen. In this respect a Volvo Lead Sled would be much more dangerous... At least a GT-R will stop when you slam on the brakes at 100mph

As for the shifting speed debate... 100ms shift on a manual trans is not that outrageous. And no you will not be shifting 10 times in 1 second. There is no reason to do this since you need to wait for the car to speed up or slow down enough to need a gear change.... Any physically, it is much easier to make one 0.1s shift every half a second or so, than 10 0.1s shifts in a row... Once you get the action into "muscle memory" I'm sure 0.1s can be possible, maybe a little less even. Personally I think I am somewhere around 0.3 (and am working on getting that number down...).

BTW, shifting speed is not the end all and be all for driving fast. The smoothness of the shift is much more important. A talented driver can adjust to the needs of the track based on weather, etc... Hence my claim above (which I maintain!) that a good driver should be faster in an MT than in the auto-ish trans...

As for the styling... I am not a big fan of the R35's styling. I think the R34 was much meaner-looking, and sexier... And btw, the Z06 has a fat ***... Not to mention that everyone and their grandmother drives a vette...
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C6 killer maybe, ZO6 killer....not likely.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
its about 3.5K lbs. a bit more if you want the premium package. but it will be under 3600.

I think even it is 3600 lbs, its still *light weight*, I would get this over any Porshce or even Ferrari.

No wayyyyyy..... F430 for me. Heck I still take a 997 Turbo. It's not about how fast one can round the 'Ring (after all do you drive that every moment?) It's the overall driving feel. I've also a feeling that the Porsche and Ferrari will hold better value at Barrett-Jackson than a Skyline. Gosh I see so many imported clunky R32s here. Sure they are prolly faster than a 993 but guess which one would rather drive? Same with this after 10 years.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
except that Z06 cant even beat an STi on the track. and STi has what about only 2/3 of Z06's hp.
What track would that be? I'd love to see that information.

And while we're on the topic of made up facts, where did you get your weight for the GT-R from?
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Originally Posted by CXTKRS1
C6 killer maybe, ZO6 killer....not likely.
not on the drag strip, but its a more capable car @ nurburgring

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Ill have a 911 turbo above it still, but I would want a 20b Turbo rx8 more
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Originally Posted by delhi
No wayyyyyy..... F430 for me. Heck I still take a 997 Turbo. It's not about how fast one can round the 'Ring (after all do you drive that every moment?) It's the overall driving feel. I've also a feeling that the Porsche and Ferrari will hold better value at Barrett-Jackson than a Skyline. Gosh I see so many imported clunky R32s here. Sure they are prolly faster than a 993 but guess which one would rather drive? Same with this after 10 years.
Whatever floats your boat... I would take a Skyline over an equivalently-priced Ferrari or Porsche any day.
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Originally Posted by playdoh43
not on the drag strip, but its a more capable car @ nurburgring
I've never seen independent testing of either the Z06 or GT-R on the nurburgring. It sounds like you have this info?

We all know manufactures lie or embelish, swap tires, etc etc, so I don't think trusting the manufacturers claims is the right way to judge. Besides, IIRC, Nissan lied about the R34 GT-Rs time at the ring
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
What track would that be? I'd love to see that information.

And while we're on the topic of made up facts, where did you get your weight for the GT-R from?
+1

No chance in hell a STi beats a Z06 at the race track. Anyone who thinks thats even a fair car comparison wouldn't even know what a track looks like.
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
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No chance in hell a STi beats a Z06 at the race track. Anyone who thinks thats even a fair car comparison wouldn't even know what a track looks like.
Hillbilly racetrack...

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^ yea, that would definitly work, to lose your license, an arm or a leg that is
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75... sexy!
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Originally Posted by nycgps
except that Z06 cant even beat an STi on the track. and STi has what about only 2/3 of Z06's hp.
Put the pipe down and step away from the internet.


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