4me2

Ugly is, ugly does.

Not my fault you bought an ugly box.

saturn

If you hadn't fell off the jungle gym when you were 4 you would have realized it's "stupid is as stupid does". I guess for stupid people that's kind of complicated.

Go sit on a bench.

mac11

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refer to my signature quotes. all is well.

4me2

Sensitive about how ugly your cars are? You can always trade it in on a RX8, but be prepared not to get much cash for your car.

saturn

Ok, first of all, I don't own an Evo. However, I would be just as happy to own an Evo as an RX-8.

Second, if you think that the RX-8 resale values can even hold a candle to the Evo's resale values you are out of your mind. Seriously, do you just make this stuff up as you go?

Get on a bench.

Ajax

Let's quit the flame fest.

First off, whether you like the looks of the Evo or the RX-8 for that matter is irrelevant.
To each their own in that department.

Secondly, the Evo is fast and it handles well. It's a damn AWD rally car. It's going to handle well unless they royally **** up something!

Third, the RX-8's resale value sucks. I know. I checked just to check recently. The EVO is much more limited in production and it WILL have better resale value than the 8 because of it.

So chill out before this thread goes away..

Ajax

Are we talking just the WRX or the STI as well? The STI and EVO should be as raw as possible. I realize the world screams for more safety but people who buy these cars pay higher insurance for a reason. They're raw, powerful, rally machines that just barely belong on the street at all.

saturn

I thought the insurance rates were really high on Evo's because of Ike? Haha, I kid, I kid.

As an aside, I checked the rates recently and the Evo was the highest, but not by a ton. The 350Z wasn't too far behind.

Red_X8

I still find it amusing that people who have probably never driven an STI or Evo think they are experts on the matter. Test drive one, then come back and tell me you still think the same. My little brother works for Subaru, and he brought an STI home the other day, my god, I have never had a driving experience like that ever. With a car like that you get over looks real quick.

mac11

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You are kidding, right?

a dealer would give you anRX-8 and CASH if you wanted to leave him an EVO to sell.

Steiner

Just the WRX - if they're even calling it that anymore. I think they may have even renamed the trim levels on the Impreza for MY08. The '08 STI is still a year away based on what I've been reading though. Although the current Impreza looks more like a Camry than last year's model, I'd be absolutely shocked if the forthcoming STI doesn't retain the more aggressive and more traditional flared fenders, hood scoop and some sort of spoiler on the rear of the car.

ivory8

O/T....but i could see some rich *** ricer kid putting 6 exhaust tips on this beast...

mac11

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only 6?

saturn

I think he's saying 6 because there's 6 "slots" in the rear bumper separated by plastic. Makes it very inviting for someone to want to fill each slot with an exhaust tip.

Steiner

I hate the idea of a cosmetic dual exhaust FWIW. On the SRT-4 it was just another bend and then 3 feet of bottleneck. I don't understand the appeal. The Evo has always been about form following function - perhaps moreso than any other performance car in the last 10 years. Little extraneous aesthetic changes like this make me think there's either 1.) been a loss of focus at Mitsubishi or 2.) they're simply targeting a different demographic. I guess we'll know soon enough. The production JDM Evolution X makes its debut at the Tokyo Auto Show in October.

Ike

It's just more nonsense having to do with appealing to the masses and getting a larger market for the car. Having a dual exhaust on a 4 cylinder car is pointless and the fact that the Evo X has one bugs me as well.

Sephiroth

I still think it looks toooo economy. Its a massive improvement over the current one and even the new WRX but it still needs a lot of work.

But im still going to make a final judgement after i see it in person in black!

Rx8urZ

i work at a mitsu dealer and the new lancer is really cool the manual tranny is nice and the cvt one isnt all that bad and no it does not have a launch mode so its kinda slow of takeoff but rolling its actually pretty nice

Ike

The Evo won't have the CVT, it's going to be a similar system to the VAG DSG. I will be buying a manual if I decide to go for the car.

Spinning Sushi

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What about our cars? It goes from one pipe to a dual exhaust.

Ike

Many cars have dual exhausts that do nothing but add more weight, I think it's lame for all of them. But it's especially lame for a car that has a reputation as a performance car with few compromises.

mac11

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I would agree whole heartedly. I do have to point out that the RX-8 didn't have a reputation at all when it came out. It had no predecessor, remember? If you are comparing to the RX-7 (which you are) then I will have to mention that the RX-7s had little few compromises - like you said - but that when you look around you will see the RX-8 has compromises EVERYWHERE.


Great suspension architecture -- Unfathomably low spring rates
HUGE WIDE fenders -- 225 width tires on +50 offest wheels
Good power for an NA rotary -- 10:1 comperssion.

The RX8 seems to have just enough "sports car" to passify the rotary fans and have just enough temperment to passify the wave of averaeg, everyday drivers Mazda obviously wanted to reach with this car. Its not setup like your RX-7 of the past but its not setup like your typical heartless daily driver.

I can't wait so see what Mazda does when they finally reintroduce a no compromises sports car.

4me2

[QUOTE=Ajax;2034393]Let's quit the flame fest.

First off, whether you like the looks of the Evo or the RX-8 for that matter is irrelevant.QUOTE]

Looks is very important, if the 8 was ugly, many of us would not own one.

The EVO and WRX are so plain and ugly, that speed would never justifying owning one. Some of us want a little of all things. Not just speed and forget about the looks and comfort.

And further more, used RX8 prices rock. There is no need to buy new.

Ike

As per usual you're confusing opinion with fact. There are plenty of people out there that think the RX-8 is ugly and people that like the looks of the Evo. Hell, the RX-8 has even shown up on polls put out by publications as among the ugliest cars on the road.

I'll tell you what rocks, being able to sell my Evo for about what I paid for it almost two years and 20k miles ago. I'll take the best resale value in the industry over resale values that drop like a rock any day.

8 Maniac

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[QUOTE=4me2;2039047]Not that this matters all too much, but you should have said "looks are"... Anyways, The evo and wrx arent that bad looking, and if you're looking for a performance car, then their performance would justify buying one. Just cause it's not what you're looking for, doesnt mean no one is looking for it. Take a look at Lotus... pretty much any comfort feature is optional (power windows, floor mats, CD player and such). If you're going to make a point, at least state it properly or make it a good point.