o5 mustang gt no match for RX8
04-08-2005, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by shaolin
Mustangs are cool cars...they're like the cheap girl that you hooked up with at a bar for a one night stand, for cheap thrills and animal sex....not very refined, but they make you feel like you've got a big d!ck. I think it's similar to the SRT-4, but better in that it's RWD, and a true sports car rather than an economy car.
The RX-8 is like the sexy sophisticated woman who is good at everything she does, and does it in a classy way. However, it takes more of a man to know how to handle this kind of woman and get good results...
Sorry if I offended any women here, but I look at cars alot like personalities of women...
The RX-8 is like the sexy sophisticated woman who is good at everything she does, and does it in a classy way. However, it takes more of a man to know how to handle this kind of woman and get good results...
Sorry if I offended any women here, but I look at cars alot like personalities of women...
04-08-2005, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bmcc49er
I would take a Mustang to go alongside my 8 no problem. Wish my wife wanted that instead of the Mazda 6. Hmmm, time for a trade? Only thing I don't like is from the mid to back. Its too long. The front end looks great on the GT but they extended the back too much IMHO.
04-08-2005, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
Buckeye is going to be buckeye. Take it with a grain of salt.
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04-08-2005, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RX8_Buckeye
Reactionary, inciting flame wars as usual... on his way to being banned for the 11th time.
I started here with legitimate thread topics for which I was attacked relentlessly on a personal level. If anybody in this forum understands what it means to be attacked unprovoked, it is me. That's why Zoom44 assured me crackdowns from now on would be more equitable.
Anyone can say anything about any car and should not get attacked personally.
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04-08-2005, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
Whatever. You get too aggressive. You take Ford comments personally. I'm backing him up because he can say anything he wants about the Mustang. Period.
I'm not inciting anything, If anybody's doing it, it's you. I mean why did you find the need to needle him with the comment "....I hope for your sake that you don't have a marketing or sales background"? That was a totally unnecessary and caustic comment (that may deserve a warning from a mod). That's why I advised him to take your comments with a grain of salt and not fall into your trap. Nothing more, nothing less.
Similarly, just a little above, I back up Shaolin when Shiri gets personal on him. If you're anything other than a Women's Studies major, you understand Shaolin's metaphor is exactly right on. I simply call it as I see it. I reward good clear unbiased thinking and avoid taking comments personally when there is no reason to. Are you going to say I'm tryng to incite something with Shiri? Give it a break. You're the one inciting. Period.
I'm not inciting anything, If anybody's doing it, it's you. I mean why did you find the need to needle him with the comment "....I hope for your sake that you don't have a marketing or sales background"? That was a totally unnecessary and caustic comment (that may deserve a warning from a mod). That's why I advised him to take your comments with a grain of salt and not fall into your trap. Nothing more, nothing less.
Similarly, just a little above, I back up Shaolin when Shiri gets personal on him. If you're anything other than a Women's Studies major, you understand Shaolin's metaphor is exactly right on. I simply call it as I see it. I reward good clear unbiased thinking and avoid taking comments personally when there is no reason to. Are you going to say I'm tryng to incite something with Shiri? Give it a break. You're the one inciting. Period.
I don't take comments about Ford or any of the Big 3 personally. It only seems that way to you because some forum members come off as being extremely biased towards Japanese cars, and assume that anyone with a dissenting opinion is totally out of line.
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04-08-2005, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
Be very careful what you say. I'm not tolerating anything anymore. I started here with legitimate thread topics for which I was attacked relentlessly on a personal level. If anybody in this forum understands what it means to be attacked unprovoked, it is me. That's why Zoom44 assured me crackdowns from now on would be more equitable.
In the Honda Ridgeline thread, I gave my opinion on the Ridgeline and F-150. You didn't like my comment and went after me. Fact. I tried to chill things down, sometimes with humor. You still didn't like it. You felt I stabbed you in the back later on in the thread. However, earlier, I just wanted to avoid anymore personal problems. I should have lashed back at you earlier in the thread and you know it. This is not the Ford Frat Boys Forum. Anyone can say anything about any car and should not get attacked personally.
In the Honda Ridgeline thread, I gave my opinion on the Ridgeline and F-150. You didn't like my comment and went after me. Fact. I tried to chill things down, sometimes with humor. You still didn't like it. You felt I stabbed you in the back later on in the thread. However, earlier, I just wanted to avoid anymore personal problems. I should have lashed back at you earlier in the thread and you know it. This is not the Ford Frat Boys Forum. Anyone can say anything about any car and should not get attacked personally.
04-08-2005, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
I mean why did you find the need to needle him with the comment "....I hope for your sake that you don't have a marketing or sales background"?
04-08-2005, 09:23 AM
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My roommate has the '05 Mustang while I have the '04 RX-8. He lets me drive it every so often, and let me tell you, that thing is pure muscle. It is a completely different driving experience. I love driving it, there's nothing better than feeling pure speed in a large, solid body. Like a friend of mine said: the Mustang is a muscle car, the RX-8 is a crotch rocket. I love both cars and I don't think the Mustang is nearly as crappy as people claim it is. There are certain things they had to do to keep the costs down, it's just part of the game. But compared to previous years, this is the most upscale Mustang you can get, and it takes a lot to redesign a car from the past, make it look good, and follow all government regulations.
That being said, I prefer my RX-8. It's not as fast, by any means. But it's more fun to drive, I feel like I have more control. And I could drive mine in the winter. Plus, the RX-8 is sold in a lot fewer numbers, so seeing another one on the road is a special event. However, when my lease on my RX-8 is up, I'm going to seriously look into the SVT Mustang or the Shelby GT-500...depending on my finances of course ;-)
That being said, I prefer my RX-8. It's not as fast, by any means. But it's more fun to drive, I feel like I have more control. And I could drive mine in the winter. Plus, the RX-8 is sold in a lot fewer numbers, so seeing another one on the road is a special event. However, when my lease on my RX-8 is up, I'm going to seriously look into the SVT Mustang or the Shelby GT-500...depending on my finances of course ;-)
04-08-2005, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by paradigm
By "high strung" I meant to say that the power comes on very VERY late, and ends abruptly.
This'll help explain.
05 mustang GT peak HP @ 5750 RPMs
05 mustang GT torque peak @ ~4500 RPM's
Redline at 6000 RPMs
The power doesn't hit until VERY late in the RPM range of the engine, and the gearing drops you below that powerband when shifting. Most other big V8s give you power the moment you hit the gas, but the GT makes you wait until just before redline. You can't bury the pedal at 4000 RPM's and expect power in the GT. You have to actually wait for it to come. It felt like driving a vtec honda to me.
I floored the pedal at 3500 RPMs in second gear and my girlfriend had enough time to say "Where's the power? Isn't this a v ei.." before finally feeling anything.
You're right about the numbers. They don't lie. I can't say anything bad about a 13.5 second 1/4 mile, but I didn't FEEL like I was driving a muscle car. And that was what killed it for me.
This'll help explain.
05 mustang GT peak HP @ 5750 RPMs
05 mustang GT torque peak @ ~4500 RPM's
Redline at 6000 RPMs
The power doesn't hit until VERY late in the RPM range of the engine, and the gearing drops you below that powerband when shifting. Most other big V8s give you power the moment you hit the gas, but the GT makes you wait until just before redline. You can't bury the pedal at 4000 RPM's and expect power in the GT. You have to actually wait for it to come. It felt like driving a vtec honda to me.
I floored the pedal at 3500 RPMs in second gear and my girlfriend had enough time to say "Where's the power? Isn't this a v ei.." before finally feeling anything.
You're right about the numbers. They don't lie. I can't say anything bad about a 13.5 second 1/4 mile, but I didn't FEEL like I was driving a muscle car. And that was what killed it for me.
04-09-2005, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by shaolin
Mustangs are cool cars...they're like the cheap girl that you hooked up with at a bar for a one night stand, for cheap thrills and animal sex....not very refined, but they make you feel like you've got a big d!ck. I think it's similar to the SRT-4, but better in that it's RWD, and a true sports car rather than an economy car.
The RX-8 is like the sexy sophisticated woman who is good at everything she does, and does it in a classy way. However, it takes more of a man to know how to handle this kind of woman and get good results...
Sorry if I offended any women here, but I look at cars alot like personalities of women...
The RX-8 is like the sexy sophisticated woman who is good at everything she does, and does it in a classy way. However, it takes more of a man to know how to handle this kind of woman and get good results...
Sorry if I offended any women here, but I look at cars alot like personalities of women...
You say Mustangs are similar to SRT-4's aka skittles? Bah! You must not know that a Mustang will RAPE an SRT-4 * unless heavily modded*. Yes RX-8's do look good but I would go with an RX-7. Stock for stock a Mustang will RAPE an SRT-4. For you to say that Mustangs are similar to SRT-4's you must not know what Mustangs are capable of doing.
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Originally Posted by zomzomp5
Ok, here is the number from the performace test done by Motortrend
Mustang GT RX8
Tested weight
3690 lb 3180 lb
Top speed
est 143 mph 148 mph
0-60 5.3 second 6.1 second
1/4 mile 13.9 14.6
700 ft slalom 64.9 mph 68.4 mph
Braking
from 60 mph.....131 ft 110 ft
from 80 mph.....233 ft 193 ft
Skidpad (200-ft)
0.84g 0.88g
I think the Mustang has the advantage in the straight, but the RX 8 would diffenitly make up some group in the turn and baking. The RX8 is clearly the better sport car, plus it has for door and has more room in the back than the ford. What do you guys think?
Mustang GT RX8
Tested weight
3690 lb 3180 lb
Top speed
est 143 mph 148 mph
0-60 5.3 second 6.1 second
1/4 mile 13.9 14.6
700 ft slalom 64.9 mph 68.4 mph
Braking
from 60 mph.....131 ft 110 ft
from 80 mph.....233 ft 193 ft
Skidpad (200-ft)
0.84g 0.88g
I think the Mustang has the advantage in the straight, but the RX 8 would diffenitly make up some group in the turn and baking. The RX8 is clearly the better sport car, plus it has for door and has more room in the back than the ford. What do you guys think?
http://www.engine-power.com/mazda/rx-8.html >>> RX-8 specs
http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/05fordmustang.html >> 05 GT specs
It would be a driver's desicion.
04-09-2005, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang Lover
You say Mustangs are similar to SRT-4's aka skittles? Bah! You must not know that a Mustang will RAPE an SRT-4 * unless heavily modded*. Yes RX-8's do look good but I would go with an RX-7. Stock for stock a Mustang will RAPE an SRT-4. For you to say that Mustangs are similar to SRT-4's you must not know what Mustangs are capable of doing.
04-11-2005, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Stang Lover
You say Mustangs are similar to SRT-4's aka skittles? Bah! You must not know that a Mustang will RAPE an SRT-4 * unless heavily modded*. Yes RX-8's do look good but I would go with an RX-7. Stock for stock a Mustang will RAPE an SRT-4. For you to say that Mustangs are similar to SRT-4's you must not know what Mustangs are capable of doing.
04-11-2005, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
Shaolin meant that they're both not very refined and are good for cheap thrills. Shaolin is exactly right.
04-13-2005, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DetroitZoomZoom
Are you sure you were driving an '05 Mustang GT? My roommate has one that was built in the very early stages (he got his a week after they started shipping), and that thing FLIES. It's hard to keep it from not taking off at the line. From all your posts, it sounds like you either 1) are confused about the performance, 2) got a Mustang that definitely had some problems, or 3) just plain out of your mind. Whatever it is, your analysis of the '05 Mustang is completely wrong.
I'm positive. I test drove 2. Both the manual and the automatic. I was impressed by neither. Take two B18's, stick them together to make a V8, and you'll get something pretty damn close to the mustang GT power-wise. I actually thought something was wrong at first, but both cars did the same thing. Like I said in my earlier post, the numbers don't lie. The new GT is a pretty fast car in a straight line, but it doesn't FEEL like a muscle car to me. Now my dad's 66 mustang with a 302....THAT feels like a muscle car.
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Originally Posted by paradigm
I'm positive. I test drove 2. Both the manual and the automatic. I was impressed by neither. Take two B18's, stick them together to make a V8, and you'll get something pretty damn close to the mustang GT power-wise. I actually thought something was wrong at first, but both cars did the same thing. Like I said in my earlier post, the numbers don't lie. The new GT is a pretty fast car in a straight line, but it doesn't FEEL like a muscle car to me. Now my dad's 66 mustang with a 302....THAT feels like a muscle car.
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