Grifter11

What are you thoughts on the 08-09 Dodge Challenger ?

Clavius

If my 8 dies on me it will be a challenge between this and the G8 for a new car. thats all for now since i havent driven it yet.

Scottyman

I think it looks great, but I can't believe it weighs 4150 pounds. That's almost as much as the Charger, and that thing is huge. Do these cars really need to be this big and heavy?

tiggerlee

Not sure until I get to drive one. btw there's a another thread in here somewhere on the Challenger.

Big_Mike_4488

Base Price is $40K+. Havent read much about this or the new Camaro as far as performance though. Is the challenger going to out perform the Camaro enough to be able to justify mid to high $40's??

Razz1

Nice. Maybe the Buick will have to be replaced by this.

ShAdOwFoX

challenger is alright but id rather go for the new camaro.

tiggerlee

My understanding is that 40k is the SRT8 pricing (plus 2k gas guzzler tax.). Only making a limited number of these. This will be followed by less expensive V6 and V8 models.

Skitzerz

Of course Chevy would come out with the V6 grocery getter for grandma.
Takes away from the whole essence of the car.

I love the design for the new camaro (except for the giant *** tires. Who do they think they are, Chip Foose?) but with the production plans they have I'll be sick of seeing them like those damn cobalts.
American car companies don't get it. Thats why they keep downsizing and loosing sales. The designers are sitting with thumbs up their asses making the same crap (I dont understand how the charger, magnum, and dakota can all have the same front end. Nitro too) and expect people to buy it.

I'll rant about this some other place.

But yeah the new challenger is nice but it's not supposed to out preform the camaro in any way but the straights. TOO big..

Pak

Any muscle car that weighs more then 3,500 lbs isn't even worth considering. It's a boat on wheels and a real disappointment. And automatic transmission only in the SRT8? Pathetic.

chancejat

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they are making these cars the way they used to....with big engines, automatic trannys, and just plain big.....i remember my dad telling me about his slapstick auto transmission he had in his cuda.....thats just how they liked it so auto companies are gonna stay true to the classics and not ruin there image.....its just a diff kind of car.......... so theres no reason to talk down on the classics....

Rootski

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chancejat

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jerkoff....

Rootski

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You're just spouting Detroit ad copy rubbish. Ford and Chrysler are both going broke and that's the only reason they're "making them like they used to." That's all they know how to do- they have no idea how to design a decent product anymore so Chrysler is using the Mustang strategy: build a car like you did in the sixties, and sell it to old guys who remember them as better than they were and young guys who think they look cool and don't know what a live real axle is. Shame this car is gonna suck like a dimestore hooker, but feel free to shell out forty large for lead sled with a tractor engine in it. It'll be another American point-and-shoot city bus with a lunch tray interior. And everybody's gonna love it. Since I for one know that a several ton vehicle with a jillion horsepower is more commonly known as a garbage truck, I'll pass.

chancejat

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im just saying that there different cars then what we dirve/like......theres no reason to talk **** about them....your a racist.....your an american car hater...

Rootski

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Yes. American cars are a race.

SlayerRX8

I highly doubt it will outperform the Camaro in the straights, either. They will have equal power, and GM would have to TRY and make the Camaro as heavy as the Challenger is. The Challenger looks neat, but it's too much weight for a performance vehicle.

Grifter11

Here are some performance numbers for the dodge challenger.


A 0–60 mph time in the low 5-second range, 0—100—0 mph in less than 17 seconds, a 1/4-mile elapsed time of less than 14 seconds, 60—0 mph braking distance of approximately 100 feet, and a skid pad performance of 0.88 g.

Rhawb

It seems I'll be sticking to my "Jap crap" for the foreseeable future. The American automakers are getting pretty pathetic, it's a sad thing to watch. It seems the only division that even has a chance of getting a hold on some appreciable market share is Pontiac, and I don't think they're doing a very good job of getting the word out about their new lineup.

Clavius

So true they havent yet. They have pretty much realized that they can rape Holden for their designs/cars and hence save a boat load on development cost's and all they have to do is slap on a new front bumber (sadly its always the corprate grill bah!). The G8 is coming soon and the only advertising I've seen for it so far was durring Speeds airing of the 24hr Rolex race. A awsome commercial say durring the SuperBowl ala Audi's would of had people talking and looking into this car.

The Challenger well its definatly relying on its old school memories but thankfully they didnt go the Pontiac route and just rename a awsome car from AU/EU that looks nothing like the orginal (to me why the GTO failed). I see the Challenger working only if they are able to allow full option buying. Keep away from packaged b.s. and let the customers well "Customize" their cars. What I always remember from shows like "American Muscle" is that they could pretty much order cars ANY way they wanted. Imagine being able to order the SRT8 version without the leather seats, no radio, no A/C and why the hell not no backseat? It wouldnt have the SRT8 name badge but just being able to order the engine package and whateva else you wished would be a boon for them but they wont claiming it would cost to much and blah blah blah not realizing that is what we want. 'eh I'm starting to rant haha.. later

Rootski

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Those numbers are.... okay, I guess. They're not worth $40k, though. Kind of sad when the best new American offering is still beat by a 350Z.

rled

4 piston Brimbo brakes with 14.2 '' rotors in the front,13.8 in the rear,, 20"wheels, 245/45 front, 255/55 rear, 13 speaker system with 500 watts total , 200 watt sub,push button start,touch screen system 30 gig hard drive ,voice recognition,bluetooth, onboard performance electronics for 0-60 time, 60-0 time, g force, and quarter mile times.rear 5 link independent suspension, ESC, ABS, tire pressure monitors,all speed traction control, 5 passenger seating,425 hp, 420 ft lb torque,13.8 1/4 mi.time, .9 G skidpad, 170 mph top speed, 0-60 ,4.9 secs, 0-100-0 in 16.5 seconds, $37,320 plus $675 destination charge and $2,100 guzzler tax=$40,095. Sounds pretty damn good to me. Imagine what a few mods would turn it into!

Mech_head

I think Dodge nailed it with this car. It looks just like the concept and i think it looks great. It will sell on its good looks alone. HOWEVER it is WAY too heavy. I thought that Ford had messed up when their SVT stang weighed in at about 38##lbs but this car is stupid heavy (a least it has IRS). And not offering it in a stick?!?! Whats the point of all that power if you can't use it?

Performance wise i see GM cleaning up with the Camaro. It will be about the same weight as a stang GT and have an LS X motor which IMO is the best V8 out their right now.

Gauge

Quiet possibly my next car...in 10 years when the price drops lol.I kid.. but this thing is gonna be a beast at the track..One supercharger please.

IcarusX8

Personally I hate it. Numbers are decent but I think it is THE ugliest thing I have ever seen. Plain, simple, boring, Chrysler never fails at terrible appearance.