Mazda RX-VISION Concepts
#878
40th anniversary Edition
In that second outside shot, as a professional photographer, I can tell they did some fill flash and exposure tweaking to compensate for the shadows and darker areas of the photo. That overworking gives it that unreal look. It is hard to make a car , people and tree all look good in outside harsh backlight (look at the direction of the shadows) without large reflectors and/or added strobe lighting to fill in the faces and shadows, hence the photoshop fixes, post shooting.
The later shots are more indicative of the natural light at the location, with less post shoot manipulation.
The later shots are more indicative of the natural light at the location, with less post shoot manipulation.
Last edited by gwilliams6; 05-25-2016 at 05:58 AM.
#879
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In that second outside shot, as a professional photographer, I can tell they did some fill flash and exposure tweaking to compensate for the shadows and darker areas of the photo. That overworking gives it that unreal look. It is hard to make a car , people and tree all look good in outside harsh backlight (look at the direction of the shadows) without large reflectors and/or added strobe lighting to fill in the faces and shadows, hence the photoshop fixes, post shooting.
The later shots are more indicative of the natural light at the location, with less post shoot manipulation.
The later shots are more indicative of the natural light at the location, with less post shoot manipulation.
#881
#882
Rockie Mountain Newbie
Honestly, there's only two ways this car is getting made:
1 - You replace all of the decision makers at Mazda with the decision makers at Ford, like yesterday. They like releasing half baked ideas on the world, as soon as they realize someone out there will buy it.
2 - Fiat/Chrysler comes back to Mazda, and says "We want that body to be our next Maserati GranTurismo, and we want 1500 per year."
Other than that, you're looking at the next Furai.
It's going to taunt and tease Mazda fans for a few years, and then die a horrible death at the hands of some idiot.
BC.
1 - You replace all of the decision makers at Mazda with the decision makers at Ford, like yesterday. They like releasing half baked ideas on the world, as soon as they realize someone out there will buy it.
2 - Fiat/Chrysler comes back to Mazda, and says "We want that body to be our next Maserati GranTurismo, and we want 1500 per year."
Other than that, you're looking at the next Furai.
It's going to taunt and tease Mazda fans for a few years, and then die a horrible death at the hands of some idiot.
BC.
#886
Registered
Only an opinion piece, but...
Sorry, rotary fans, Mazda's RX Vision probably won't happen - Autoblog
I do have a problem with this statement from Mazda...
"It's smart to keep developing it in back rooms and to keep the idea on the public's mind."
Sure, then when they keep teasing everyone and stringing them along, then never deliver, they lose credibility and people take their money elsewhere, which most RX-8 owners already have.
Sorry, rotary fans, Mazda's RX Vision probably won't happen - Autoblog
I do have a problem with this statement from Mazda...
"It's smart to keep developing it in back rooms and to keep the idea on the public's mind."
Sure, then when they keep teasing everyone and stringing them along, then never deliver, they lose credibility and people take their money elsewhere, which most RX-8 owners already have.
If one compares the original TopGear article ( Mazda will build the RX Vision if you shout loud enough | Top Gear ) with that autoblog article, one can see that the author only quoted those sentences that suited his no-rotary thesis, and completely ignored the rest.
Perhaps someone told him to make a "no rotary" article to stir some interest?
Showing the Rx Vision was a very clear pro-rotary statement from Mazda. There are very clear hints pointing toward a rotary engine, the first one being the name, as everyone knows what the R in Rx stands for.
They could have rolled out the same concept under the Kodo-vision name, or any other name if they chose to (who cares if a piston engine wouldn't fit? It's a concept), but they used Rx-vision. So they clearly wanted to let everyone know it's a concept for a rotary powered car.
Imho Mazda's directors are not so stupid as to believe that they can release such a pro-rotary statement, then not release anything and easily get away with it. They risk losing quite a few loyal customers if they do that. So if they released that concept, it means that they're very confident that they can indeed make a new rotary car, again imho. So they either already solved the technical hurdles or they are still working but they are in the final steps.
If/when the new rotary car is released, it will not be identical to the Rx-vision (obviously that's just a concept that needs several modifications before one can even think about producing it), but they sure have a styling benchmark to refer to for the production car.
Andrea.
#887
If they cant build it with mass production no stop don't send it to museum or burn like furai.
Come on guys do it ! If you don't have any chance think again and build it with limited production but please build it !
Please build it limited production like Lexus did with LFA.
Make it 500 or 1000 piece get it real. Put it 16x 2 rotor or 24x 3 rotor with hybird powerplant for range extender like all nowadays sports car have.
Come on guys do it ! If you don't have any chance think again and build it with limited production but please build it !
Please build it limited production like Lexus did with LFA.
Make it 500 or 1000 piece get it real. Put it 16x 2 rotor or 24x 3 rotor with hybird powerplant for range extender like all nowadays sports car have.
#888
40th anniversary Edition
Cheers
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#892
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denny can you back up that statement? please say yes
#894
There was a short article in one of my recent Motortrend magazines talking about the "hurdles" and that Mazda was actually testing the new motor and it needed to past the last 2-3 hurdles only. I will look for it, but was in the MT Confidential section if anyone else get a MT subscription.
#895
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#896
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There are a lot of important dates coming in the next few years (2017: 50 years since the 1967 Cosmo Sport and 60 years since the first run of a rotary engine; 2018: 40 years since the first Rx-7; 2020: Mazda's 100th anniversary and the year of Tokyo Olymipic Games; and I'm sure that I'm missing something), Mazda is certainly interested in properly celebrating these recurrences, so a 3 rotor car may not be off the table.
If the flagship is indeed a 3-rotor, however, I wouldn't mind seeing a 2-rotor version being sold alongside the 3-rotor flagship. That would greatly increase the sales volume and better allow to recoup the R&D costs. It would also help fill the huge gap that would form between the Miata and this hypothetical 3-rotor flagship.
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