Mazda RX-VISION Concepts
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With days left - my 3cents for the reveal:
1) Weight? Duh! Miata-like, but gussied up hardtop, wider & longer, adding ~100kg, if weight is even spec'ed.
2) Rotary? Somehow, yes. Main engine, doubtful, but rotary something, maybe e-assist?
3) Tech? Toyota technology swap could mean a Sporty 'Prius-like' drivetrain - think micro-Tesla w/rotary SkyActive Technology? Android or iOS integration?
4) Power? Mazda has never failed to "disappoint" on HP, so less than hoped...esp. if a hybrid technology, but P/W ratio in line for Mazda's 'fun -to-drive' sport vehicles.
5) Price? It's a concept - so priceless.
5) Raison d-etre? JDM's mid-to-late-life crisis seems hell bent on reintroducing some sport cars just because. Seems out-of-touch w/mass market reality, sadly.
1) Weight? Duh! Miata-like, but gussied up hardtop, wider & longer, adding ~100kg, if weight is even spec'ed.
2) Rotary? Somehow, yes. Main engine, doubtful, but rotary something, maybe e-assist?
3) Tech? Toyota technology swap could mean a Sporty 'Prius-like' drivetrain - think micro-Tesla w/rotary SkyActive Technology? Android or iOS integration?
4) Power? Mazda has never failed to "disappoint" on HP, so less than hoped...esp. if a hybrid technology, but P/W ratio in line for Mazda's 'fun -to-drive' sport vehicles.
5) Price? It's a concept - so priceless.
5) Raison d-etre? JDM's mid-to-late-life crisis seems hell bent on reintroducing some sport cars just because. Seems out-of-touch w/mass market reality, sadly.
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Pretty simple really IMO if it is not a ROTARY ENGINE as a main POWER SOURCE then it is not an RX-9....and frankly Mazda would be pretty stupid to call it one, even though RX means 'Rotary Experiment', confusing the marketplace is the worse known marketing/planning any brand/product can do.(ask Ad Agencies).
I can see it now, here is the all new RX-9, blah blah, owners go over car looking to buy and 'Oh wait' it is a hybrid/whatever electric whatever thing, every other RX- has had a RE under the bonnet as its main engine.
Sort of like, here is the all new 2017 CX-9, showroom traffic are then told it has a turbo 4, OK "but I thought it came with a V6", not now it don't.
It is just dumb, I don't know ANY car maker who has changed down to a 'smaller' engine and called it the same name without it becoming a bit of a laugh and a sales flop...Current/Last CX-9 (run-out) is having best ever sales, everywhere it is sold.
I can see it now, here is the all new RX-9, blah blah, owners go over car looking to buy and 'Oh wait' it is a hybrid/whatever electric whatever thing, every other RX- has had a RE under the bonnet as its main engine.
Sort of like, here is the all new 2017 CX-9, showroom traffic are then told it has a turbo 4, OK "but I thought it came with a V6", not now it don't.
It is just dumb, I don't know ANY car maker who has changed down to a 'smaller' engine and called it the same name without it becoming a bit of a laugh and a sales flop...Current/Last CX-9 (run-out) is having best ever sales, everywhere it is sold.
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I was just about to say this and look what came through.............!
''Mazda has no plans for a market release of the sports car at this point. It will gauge the response during the event, which opens at the end of next week''
All will depend on what people think, how much, etc...can they get the volume they need?
Tokyo Motor Show: Mazda resurrects rotary engine for sport concept- Nikkei Asian Review
''Mazda has no plans for a market release of the sports car at this point. It will gauge the response during the event, which opens at the end of next week''
All will depend on what people think, how much, etc...can they get the volume they need?
Tokyo Motor Show: Mazda resurrects rotary engine for sport concept- Nikkei Asian Review
No surprise there. Everything has been far too silent for even a pre-production unveiling. 3 years or more out, because they would actually have to ... you know ... build it.
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Here's my prediction, going on the teaser photo -
It's too big to be named an RX. It's based on a RWD variant of the Mazda 6 chassis. It's going to be a grand tourer instead of an out and out sports car. It will be called the Cosmo.
It's too big to be named an RX. It's based on a RWD variant of the Mazda 6 chassis. It's going to be a grand tourer instead of an out and out sports car. It will be called the Cosmo.
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I was just about to say this and look what came through.............!
''Mazda has no plans for a market release of the sports car at this point. It will gauge the response during the event, which opens at the end of next week''
All will depend on what people think, how much, etc...can they get the volume they need?
Tokyo Motor Show: Mazda resurrects rotary engine for sport concept- Nikkei Asian Review
''Mazda has no plans for a market release of the sports car at this point. It will gauge the response during the event, which opens at the end of next week''
All will depend on what people think, how much, etc...can they get the volume they need?
Tokyo Motor Show: Mazda resurrects rotary engine for sport concept- Nikkei Asian Review
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this concept will be just an "idea" of a possible future of rotary engine matched with a car. just to show to people and observing the reactions.
My interest is for the technical sheet....i'm pretty sure that nothing of mechanic will be showed...but if is hybrid (in theory ) or not will be interesting.
this is a sort of RX-evolv (1999)...
in brief:
1)interested to overall style (evolution of Kodo)
2) interested about prototype specs...(if is hybrid or not and in which way)
Special customer events 'Be a driver. Experience at Tokyo Motor Show'
Mazda will hold a number of special events for customers at the stand throughout the show. In addition to explanations about the vehicles on display and Mazda's vehicle engineering philosophy, the attendees will have the opportunity to meet and talk to some of the engineers who developed the vehicles on display.
Please visit the following site for details of the events, including how to apply. (Please note that the website is only available in Japanese)
Mazda will hold a number of special events for customers at the stand throughout the show. In addition to explanations about the vehicles on display and Mazda's vehicle engineering philosophy, the attendees will have the opportunity to meet and talk to some of the engineers who developed the vehicles on display.
Please visit the following site for details of the events, including how to apply. (Please note that the website is only available in Japanese)
I was just about to say this and look what came through.............!
''Mazda has no plans for a market release of the sports car at this point. It will gauge the response during the event, which opens at the end of next week''
All will depend on what people think, how much, etc...can they get the volume they need?
Tokyo Motor Show: Mazda resurrects rotary engine for sport concept- Nikkei Asian Review
''Mazda has no plans for a market release of the sports car at this point. It will gauge the response during the event, which opens at the end of next week''
All will depend on what people think, how much, etc...can they get the volume they need?
Tokyo Motor Show: Mazda resurrects rotary engine for sport concept- Nikkei Asian Review
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haha you'll have missed the announcement then. its on the 28th in Japan which for me in PST (gmt -8) makes it the 27th @ 4:30 pm local time. thats the 27th @ 7:30pm for you on the east coast
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You can watch the unveiling tomorrow, 10/27/15 here at 7:30pm EDT:
Inside Mazda ? Tokyo Motor Show | Mazda USA
Inside Mazda ? Tokyo Motor Show | Mazda USA
I have to admit I am excited. I'm like a crack addict in downtown Detroit. I will spend every dollar I have and sell my body to buy one more fix of Mazda rotary-powered crack.
