hmm, with a returnless fuel system as it is now they could very well inject the oil in the fuel rail to be mixed and atomized by the injectors, basically a premix.

is direct injection returnless?

 

Ianetti doesn't "machine" seals. he grows them

 

read the thread in the first link below mr. repeats himself

links for the previous discussions

 

crazy ideas man crazy

 

oh it wasn't mr . repeatshimself. still its an old bit

 

I'm taking bets on how many parts revisions occur in the first model year ...

 

I'll take "Over 1" for $10,000.

 

You can be damn sure I won't be buying the first model year this time. I learned my lesson with my '04. I'll give em at least 1 year to find out what bugs and issues pop up so I know what I'm getting into next time.

 

now that was good thinking Team! You are absoulutely right.
But if a 3 rotor does by chance get produced it will be hard not too!
OD

 

Where do I sign up to volunteer as test dummy for the first engine's then?

Can't go downhill much further...

 

If they did, i'd be standing in line regardless of first year or not.

 

3 rotor would blow my mind. But from the (rumoured) articles i've seen they're using the 16x with turbos? Can anyone else confirm this...... a pre-turbo'd RX will be the cat's ***.

 

Whatever happens, Mazda needs to do something with this next car so that is has to be taken seriously. Jeez, the 2012 Civic SI now has 201 hp and 170 torque. Could probably outrun the current 8 or be damn close. Pathetic.

 

I take my car seriously.



and.... I find that is the only opinion that has any merit in my car choice.



Actually, scratch that.


I find my car ridiculously fun, and am usually smiling every second of every mile. That doesn't sound like it's very serious to me in retrospect.

 

The hyundai genesis coupe 3.8 track with 330 hp and a 10/100K mile warrenty for about 30K is very hard to beat. Mazda has to step up if they want a marketable performance car.
A 3 rotor would do that and not have to be forced induced. I can only wish!

 

there hasnt been one single mention of the 16x with any forced induction.

 

Nope i havent seen one mentioned either but for a new rotary engine to be in the competition it will need more that 300hp. Or IF they can be satisfied with a 10/1 hp/wgt ratio in some type of way.
To make it the rotary is going to have to stand out. It cannot be just "almost as good". Things have changed and there are too many good engines out there.

 

bring the old rx7 back and cheaper

 

They can't, even if they wanted to...

1: No longer meets crash safety standards
2: No longer meets pedestrian impact standards
3: No longer meets emissions standards


As for cheaper, that isn't going to happen either...stuff costs more now than it did in 1993... Including building, shipping, liability (warranty), etc...

 

zoom44, here are a few that i've come across just by typing in "new mazda rx7 rx9" into google. they're almost all saying FI 16x engine. and in my opinion i don't think they will be able to get the mileage out of a 3 rotor NA.



http://www.design42day.com/2010/07/mazda-rx9-turbo/

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11011042...details-emerge

http://car-japan.blogspot.com/2010/0...oupe-rx-9.html

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/mazda/2...e-ar99495.html

http://www.rx8blog.com/mazda-rx9-2012-new-info/

 

I notice none of them are from Mazda's mouth. Just "Our informant in Mazda", "Rumor has it", etc....

 

true. i guess you're right there.

Does anyone have information that has come from mazda? This car is driving me crazy. I'm actually getting ready to sell my 8 if/when this car comes out and if it hasn't lost the RX'ness i'm going straight for it... if not i guess ill keep my 8 for another year or two and then my rotary days will most likely be over.

 

The only things that have come from Mazda are:
- 16x patents
- hybrid technology patents and licensing from toyota (may or may not be related to the rotary)
- Son of RX-7 designer "wants to design the RX-7" (which implies that if a rotary is on the way, it's not the "RX-7")
- The Shanari is a design language, so what is under the skin for the rolling model has no meaning...but the design of it has LOTS of rotary shapes, indications, and references.


...and that's about it.

Everything else is from an unnamed source that magazines or forum members can't quote directly or specifically point out.



At the end of the day, Mazda's current tag line is certainly true (in my sig).

Get a car that excites you. Whatever make or model that is. Don't settle for less.

 

Fingers crossed. I guess if the new model isn't up to (my personal) par, I could always just turbo my 8 and go from there.... esmeril interests me VERY much

 

Awesome! Good info and website.