Battle of the 8's: RX-8 vs. Evo VIII
01-07-2004, 01:10 AM
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Hootpot, do you ask your lady friends if they "like foreplay and ****"? I'm sure they really gets em ready for action :D
If you supply the groceries and bring the beer you can have back on the boat RX8-TX, oh and naked women. After all, what's a boat without naked women :p
Oh... and some jello, lots of jello...
And an inflatable kiddie pool...
Whoops, One last thing, a video camera.
Ike
If you supply the groceries and bring the beer you can have back on the boat RX8-TX, oh and naked women. After all, what's a boat without naked women :p
Oh... and some jello, lots of jello...
And an inflatable kiddie pool...
Whoops, One last thing, a video camera.
Ike
01-07-2004, 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
[B]Hootpot, do you ask your lady friends if they "like foreplay and ****"? I'm sure they really gets em ready for action :D
[B]Hootpot, do you ask your lady friends if they "like foreplay and ****"? I'm sure they really gets em ready for action :D
Always check your dipstick before a long ride!
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01-25-2004, 03:59 PM
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This is a real bad comparison IMO. the EVO will beat an RX8 in every category of performance.......
The RX-8, in it's most basic form, is very cool. Not very fast, But cool.
If Mazda took an RX-8, dropped it, put Brembo's and a large single turbo, etc. It would be F'ing AMAZING!
I agree, it's a silly comparison. I think the EVO is ugly, but faster. Since I have no dreams of dying a horrible death in a street race, I prefer to look good. I am building a 2000lb FB with a RENESIS. That will be fast (on the track) but legal for the street.
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02-03-2004, 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by AbusiveWombat
As it stand right now...the EVO plus a little under $4000 can run a 11.6 second 1/4 mile with 380 whp. the $4000 is what it costs for Buschur Racing's stage 4 upgrade. That is economical. that is 200 whp more than the RX8...I don't see the RX8 having anything similar. At a certain point horsepower becomes very expensive. With the EVO, Buschur Racing's stage 4 is about as far as we can take the stock turbo.
As it stand right now...the EVO plus a little under $4000 can run a 11.6 second 1/4 mile with 380 whp. the $4000 is what it costs for Buschur Racing's stage 4 upgrade. That is economical. that is 200 whp more than the RX8...I don't see the RX8 having anything similar. At a certain point horsepower becomes very expensive. With the EVO, Buschur Racing's stage 4 is about as far as we can take the stock turbo.
The reason you aren't driving an Omni is the same reason I'm not driving an EVO (or a monster Miata or a DSM or a...) - I don't want one.
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03-15-2004, 10:17 AM
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Well I thought I would chime in on this tread since I can officially state my opinion on both the RX-8 and the EVO. My roommate just got the RX-8 this weekend and he let me take it out for a drive.
Comfort:
driver seat is very uncomfortable. The bottom of the seat right were my tailbone/lower back is there is some kind of metal bar that digs into me if i set up straight, so definetely not a good long trip cruiser. Back seat is on the other hand very nice. I am 5'9" and I fit perfectly and I love how the back seat is split so it feels like bucket seats in the back unlike the evo, passengers will get thrown side to side if cornering hard. Gauges in the car are very nice compared to the EVO, but the only thing I don't like is the digital speedometer. Gauges can be all amber for comfort or they can be set to look like the ones in the new hondas. Very bright with red needles. (Electroluminescent) Pretty cool!
Power:
Torque??? lol there is NONE! Car just feels very slow compared to the evo. I would say 0-60 is close to 6.5 seconds not 5.8 as in stated in most magazine reviews. Power delivery is on the otherhand very very smooth and linear all the way to redline and the car beeps at you around 8000 rpm to shift. The RX-7 lacks that kick in the butt feeling the evo gives where your body starts sinking in the seat as the turbo raises pressure in the cylinders.
Handling:
Car corners pretty flat, very little body roll, drives smoother over bumps than the evo. Steering response is not immediate as in the EVO. I can turn the steering wheel a little bit and it doesn't have the immediate response in that the EVO has. Feels a lot like my old Integra GSR.
Looks:
Fantastic looking car, very different than most cars on the road and since he got black it has the appearance of some kind of batmobile hehe
Final opinion:
This car is not for me. Too slow, worse gas mileage than the EVO, not as comfortable as the EVO and definetly not as fun to drive overall, but the overall styling is sweet and if looks are what you want this is the one to get.
Comfort:
driver seat is very uncomfortable. The bottom of the seat right were my tailbone/lower back is there is some kind of metal bar that digs into me if i set up straight, so definetely not a good long trip cruiser. Back seat is on the other hand very nice. I am 5'9" and I fit perfectly and I love how the back seat is split so it feels like bucket seats in the back unlike the evo, passengers will get thrown side to side if cornering hard. Gauges in the car are very nice compared to the EVO, but the only thing I don't like is the digital speedometer. Gauges can be all amber for comfort or they can be set to look like the ones in the new hondas. Very bright with red needles. (Electroluminescent) Pretty cool!
Power:
Torque??? lol there is NONE! Car just feels very slow compared to the evo. I would say 0-60 is close to 6.5 seconds not 5.8 as in stated in most magazine reviews. Power delivery is on the otherhand very very smooth and linear all the way to redline and the car beeps at you around 8000 rpm to shift. The RX-7 lacks that kick in the butt feeling the evo gives where your body starts sinking in the seat as the turbo raises pressure in the cylinders.
Handling:
Car corners pretty flat, very little body roll, drives smoother over bumps than the evo. Steering response is not immediate as in the EVO. I can turn the steering wheel a little bit and it doesn't have the immediate response in that the EVO has. Feels a lot like my old Integra GSR.
Looks:
Fantastic looking car, very different than most cars on the road and since he got black it has the appearance of some kind of batmobile hehe
Final opinion:
This car is not for me. Too slow, worse gas mileage than the EVO, not as comfortable as the EVO and definetly not as fun to drive overall, but the overall styling is sweet and if looks are what you want this is the one to get.
03-15-2004, 11:21 AM
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Two girls at a party, both are hot to look at. After dancing with each, you know one is hot AND ready to go - fast, the other is hot, but wants to get to know you before opening up more, with more to her than meets the eye.
Bottom line, one is quick fun... the other wants a long term quality relationship that takes time to appreciate.
Make up your mind! :D or if rich enough, take both! :D :D and double your pleasure.
ps. Yea I've driven them both (obv own the 8) and both are addictive in their own wonderful way!
Bottom line, one is quick fun... the other wants a long term quality relationship that takes time to appreciate.
Make up your mind! :D or if rich enough, take both! :D :D and double your pleasure.
ps. Yea I've driven them both (obv own the 8) and both are addictive in their own wonderful way!
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03-31-2004, 11:37 AM
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I just finished reading this thread all the way (took a while), but it appealed to me since this is basically my car choice right now.
I love the styling and interior of the RX8 and the performance of the EVO. And with options and incentives (LOL), they are almost the exact same price.
I can't find a dealer to test drive either. I get the same line ". . . it's a specialty car whose owners will know they want one without a test drive . . ."
Heck, right now, I'd probably get one from whichever dealership will let me drive it.
I wish I could afford both . . . that one guy's pic made me so jealous.
AC
I love the styling and interior of the RX8 and the performance of the EVO. And with options and incentives (LOL), they are almost the exact same price.
I can't find a dealer to test drive either. I get the same line ". . . it's a specialty car whose owners will know they want one without a test drive . . ."
Heck, right now, I'd probably get one from whichever dealership will let me drive it.
I wish I could afford both . . . that one guy's pic made me so jealous.
AC
03-31-2004, 07:57 PM
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I had a problem getting a testdrive of a EVO from a couple dealers, and for a while after they came out. This was from dealers that only had one or two in stock so it's somewhat understandable. However the Mazda dealer was more than willing to let me drive the RX-8 right after release, and every Mazda dealer I've seen has plenty to chose from. Usually them denying a testdrive means they don't have a demo car on the lot and are too cheap to let a new car get some miles on it. But you really shouldn't be having a problem getting a testdrive in the RX-8.
Originally posted by Alacris
I just finished reading this thread all the way (took a while), but it appealed to me since this is basically my car choice right now.
I love the styling and interior of the RX8 and the performance of the EVO. And with options and incentives (LOL), they are almost the exact same price.
I can't find a dealer to test drive either. I get the same line ". . . it's a specialty car whose owners will know they want one without a test drive . . ."
Heck, right now, I'd probably get one from whichever dealership will let me drive it.
I wish I could afford both . . . that one guy's pic made me so jealous.
AC
I just finished reading this thread all the way (took a while), but it appealed to me since this is basically my car choice right now.
I love the styling and interior of the RX8 and the performance of the EVO. And with options and incentives (LOL), they are almost the exact same price.
I can't find a dealer to test drive either. I get the same line ". . . it's a specialty car whose owners will know they want one without a test drive . . ."
Heck, right now, I'd probably get one from whichever dealership will let me drive it.
I wish I could afford both . . . that one guy's pic made me so jealous.
AC
04-21-2004, 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by rx8miami
won't pull the same g's as the 8 or drift as well.
won't pull the same g's as the 8 or drift as well.
04-21-2004, 07:17 PM
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Having driven both, on a track no less, I can say the overall speed difference between the two is slight enough to be more than covered by driving skill. In other words: An even slightly better driver can whoop *** on an EVO with an
RX-8. Both are fun to drive, one like a Video game the other much more involving.
On another point: Although the RX-8 brakes were strong and fade free I would take those EVO Brembos any day. Awesome, stiff, pedal feel.
RX-8. Both are fun to drive, one like a Video game the other much more involving.
On another point: Although the RX-8 brakes were strong and fade free I would take those EVO Brembos any day. Awesome, stiff, pedal feel.
04-22-2004, 08:44 AM
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Thanks for the insight on this. I test drove an EVO last night and while it was an awesome car, it didn't amaze me the way I was expecting. Honestly, three weeks on web forums might have talked it up too much. Impressive in every aspect, and of course, I can only test it so much (between no really windy roads and the break-in period). It's still top of my list, but the test drive alone did not close the sale.
That's inspired me to at least try the RX8 out next. I'll have to know or I'll second guess myself forever.
thanks for all the info here,
ac
That's inspired me to at least try the RX8 out next. I'll have to know or I'll second guess myself forever.
thanks for all the info here,
ac
04-22-2004, 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by rlfletch
Having driven both, on a track no less, I can say the overall speed difference between the two is slight enough to be more than covered by driving skill. In other words: An even slightly better driver can whoop *** on an EVO with an
RX-8. Both are fun to drive, one like a Video game the other much more involving.
On another point: Although the RX-8 brakes were strong and fade free I would take those EVO Brembos any day. Awesome, stiff, pedal feel.
Having driven both, on a track no less, I can say the overall speed difference between the two is slight enough to be more than covered by driving skill. In other words: An even slightly better driver can whoop *** on an EVO with an
RX-8. Both are fun to drive, one like a Video game the other much more involving.
On another point: Although the RX-8 brakes were strong and fade free I would take those EVO Brembos any day. Awesome, stiff, pedal feel.
04-22-2004, 02:49 PM
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the evo apparently scoots to 60 mph in 4.9 sec. and the rx8 on a beautiful crisp cool day gets there in 5.9 sec. so it's pretty well understood that in a short sprint the evo kicks our ***. however with the 8 already pulling .90 g's and evo .88-.89 some publication have it at .90 it's a dead heat in a slalom. modify the suspension of the 8 add some aftermarket upgrades to exhaust,engine,ecu and the 8 make sup for the lack of power and overtakes the evo in the cone race quite easily. not to mention since the evo is all wheel drive it can't "drift" like the 8 and boy is that fun to do!
04-22-2004, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by rx8miami
the evo apparently scoots to 60 mph in 4.9 sec. and the rx8 on a beautiful crisp cool day gets there in 5.9 sec. so it's pretty well understood that in a short sprint the evo kicks our ***. however with the 8 already pulling .90 g's and evo .88-.89 some publication have it at .90 it's a dead heat in a slalom. modify the suspension of the 8 add some aftermarket upgrades to exhaust,engine,ecu and the 8 make sup for the lack of power and overtakes the evo in the cone race quite easily. not to mention since the evo is all wheel drive it can't "drift" like the 8 and boy is that fun to do!
the evo apparently scoots to 60 mph in 4.9 sec. and the rx8 on a beautiful crisp cool day gets there in 5.9 sec. so it's pretty well understood that in a short sprint the evo kicks our ***. however with the 8 already pulling .90 g's and evo .88-.89 some publication have it at .90 it's a dead heat in a slalom. modify the suspension of the 8 add some aftermarket upgrades to exhaust,engine,ecu and the 8 make sup for the lack of power and overtakes the evo in the cone race quite easily. not to mention since the evo is all wheel drive it can't "drift" like the 8 and boy is that fun to do!
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Originally posted by rx8miami
it's a dead heat in a slalom.
it's a dead heat in a slalom.
http://www.elisetalk.com/forums/show...&highlight=evo
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Ike,
Don't forget there is now an FQ330 (wasn't around for the test above) and I think Mitusibishi Racing (MR) versions of the FQ300 and FQ330 are coming out soon over the pond, which are generally quite a bit lighter. :D Still, the Spec C, is quite impressive. How about the 135 HP Elise's performance?
Don't forget there is now an FQ330 (wasn't around for the test above) and I think Mitusibishi Racing (MR) versions of the FQ300 and FQ330 are coming out soon over the pond, which are generally quite a bit lighter. :D Still, the Spec C, is quite impressive. How about the 135 HP Elise's performance?