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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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Yups....agree with david with regards to many successfull 20B project. But, all those projects came with a heavy price. Which, in my opinion isn't really worth it. I don't think i have the heart to cannibalise my 8 just to shoehorn a 20B. I will admit though that only a decade ago i was very seriously considering doing it to my FD..... Prolly, the only conversion that ive been giving some thought to is a FD 13B engine transplant...... Performance figures for this engine are acceptably high. Mounting it should'nt be a prob. Main concern would prolly be whether all the wiring, dashboads electrics, Rx8 meter cluster etc etc works after the transplant. But that in itself is fixable, will just take a lot of work (and a very good wireman).......

And i also agree with most of what david said..... I'm only thinking "bang for bucks", the amount of money needed to do all those mods will easily drive you into GTR 700bhp modding territory. Plus, i don't want to re-live those days where my RE spent most of its time in the workshop instead of in my garrage.

For now, nothing that will involve taking the engine apart. Bolt-on stuff will do just fine for now tq. Maybe somewhere down the road id dabble in more serious mods. Maybe even getting a tuned motor shipped from Japan (need to get it retuned to run in our climate). Till those days come, i'll be happy in the notion that ive learnt from my past mistakes and took my time to do mods on this one.........

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by yohji
Bro,I'm so innocent ler....David lah,he's the 1 who said ur house got money printer ler and he's the ink supplier somemore but i doubt that ler coz the money printer actually at ur office not at ur house hahahahah
wahahahahah :P
Old Feb 18, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by effie
Yups....agree with david with regards to many successfull 20B project. But, all those projects came with a heavy price. Which, in my opinion isn't really worth it. I don't think i have the heart to cannibalise my 8 just to shoehorn a 20B. I will admit though that only a decade ago i was very seriously considering doing it to my FD..... Prolly, the only conversion that ive been giving some thought to is a FD 13B engine transplant...... Performance figures for this engine are acceptably high. Mounting it should'nt be a prob. Main concern would prolly be whether all the wiring, dashboads electrics, Rx8 meter cluster etc etc works after the transplant. But that in itself is fixable, will just take a lot of work (and a very good wireman).......

And i also agree with most of what david said..... I'm only thinking "bang for bucks", the amount of money needed to do all those mods will easily drive you into GTR 700bhp modding territory. Plus, i don't want to re-live those days where my RE spent most of its time in the workshop instead of in my garrage.

For now, nothing that will involve taking the engine apart. Bolt-on stuff will do just fine for now tq. Maybe somewhere down the road id dabble in more serious mods. Maybe even getting a tuned motor shipped from Japan (need to get it retuned to run in our climate). Till those days come, i'll be happy in the notion that ive learnt from my past mistakes and took my time to do mods on this one.........
i don't think the clusters will be a problem, keep the original ecu intact for abs/ac/clusters . and use a microtech to control the new engine .
Old Feb 18, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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btw, anyone know of a carbon fibre aftermarket side mirrors that can flip ? i saw the ganador cf one , petty nice but it can't flip
Old Feb 18, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by davidykhor
i don't think the clusters will be a problem, keep the original ecu intact for abs/ac/clusters . and use a microtech to control the new engine .
When you change the engine, the ecu must come along, thus your cluster will be completely useless liao, it cant make you Meters work even you're using Motec......

Then you have to worry about the driveshaft, it's not just plug and play...... And then who is experience enuff to do that here?? You bring in the US guys???
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:24 AM
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oh, there was a puerto rican guy with 20B installed in his vehicle, he kept the original ecu intact to control abs/ac/meter . and piggy back microtech lt12s to control the engine
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by davidykhor
oh, there was a puerto rican guy with 20B installed in his vehicle, he kept the original ecu intact to control abs/ac/meter . and piggy back microtech lt12s to control the engine
You're refering rgonza rite!!!!! then i'll consider 13b or better up coming 15b....... Yum Yum........ Maybe not, i suffered to much liao for turning NA to turbo....... Better invest on next car....
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:35 AM
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well

there is turbo for 330ci :P
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by davidykhor
well

there is turbo for 330ci :P
That car must drive stock....... It's heavy and the SMG can't much more power......
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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i know where u can do reinforcement for smg gearbox, and guess what, cheaper then a rx8 lsd ...

btw do u have the SMG1 or SMG2 ?

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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by davidykhor
btw, anyone know of a carbon fibre aftermarket side mirrors that can flip ? i saw the ganador cf one , petty nice but it can't flip
I think only ganador side mirror wif cf or if u don't mind my suggestion again just put cf sticker on ur original side mirror somemore can flip wah...perfect...see i so good everything plan for u muahahaha
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 05:52 AM
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wahahahhahahahaa ... okay la i may buy the ganador , buddy desmond @ N1 giveme good price for it.
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by davidykhor
wahahahhahahahaa ... okay la i may buy the ganador , buddy desmond @ N1 giveme good price for it.

Uncle david,how old are u?married?got son?if u don't mind i can be ur godson....don't sell the brabus la better give me after i be ur godson and i don't mind to call u "papa" U really got so many lobang hor...next time want anything can call u.Anyway,Nothing is perfect in this world,sometime u need to sacrifice...u want nice go for ganador,u want flip just stay on and don't change anything.My personal opinion original side mirror is nice for me liao
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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i know the guys in sunway way before they were famous , all of them , including jaafar ... when jaafar is still learning from his sifu mr tur** s**** last time.

just that i haven't c anyone for a long time except for jaafar cause he does exhaust. all my cars have exhaust upgrades .

back to the days when i was driving my saga/iswara/wira i always go sunway too haha :P
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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wah david seems u very old ler. not that i discriminate uncles. just that like yohji say i also wanna be your grandson! hahahah!
to me, to have someone do a 20b before me is a great news. why don't you try aussie guy. they have really good experience with 20b and it cost u cheaper. if u see how their car jump off the ground with a 20B u will be woo wee!

how much does a new renesis engine cost?
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by lennon
That's Chee Meng's shop........ It must be those Indon workers that mess it up...... I hope you learn a lesson, never ask a Indon or Bangla who don't even have a driving lesson to treat you car......
can anyone borrow me a gun? wanna go shoot the bangla!

haha..

eh.. i heard david has money printer? can borrow? hehe
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by CoMBo8
can anyone borrow me a gun? wanna go shoot the bangla!

haha..

eh.. i heard david has money printer? can borrow? hehe

Hi bro,Thing can be simple.For me if i send my car to a workshop and know who is the shop sifu's wif more experience i will allow him to touch my car otherwise stay away from my car.Since i believed the shop sifu so much and if he let other ppl to do the job i really willl screw him up!!!Unless,i just need to change something like oil filter or engine oil otherwise...........Like what kean said workmanship is very important.Or why don't u send back ur car and ask them to re-do the thing and only ask for the sifu not those bangla!!!Not to say i look down them u know....i do really sympathy them and i buy coke and pay tips for those guys who wash my car at damansara last time and **** happen!Got 1 smart fella from other planet he use thinner to help me removed dirty thing from my front bumper OMG,forget to tell him that earth is very dangerous and pls go back to their planet......
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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waa.. bad incident u had.

sending back to that shop after cny. and i will buy them some cokes and ask them to stay away from my car.. hehe..
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by davidykhor
i know where u can do reinforcement for smg gearbox, and guess what, cheaper then a rx8 lsd ...

btw do u have the SMG1 or SMG2 ?
What type of reinforcement?? Clutch upgrade??? Mine belongs to the first generation....
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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wah david seems u very old ler. not that i discriminate uncles. just that like yohji say i also wanna be your grandson! hahahah!
to me, to have someone do a 20b before me is a great news. why don't you try aussie guy. they have really good experience with 20b and it cost u cheaper. if u see how their car jump off the ground with a 20B u will be woo wee!

how much does a new renesis engine cost?
Wah..... You guys call him UNCLE UNCLE, he's just 2 or 3 years older than you guys leh....

Boy, like some other Bro from the forum said, it's not gonna be cheap to put in a 20B....... Lasttime i ask Rotormaster to rebuild a Renesis with 3mm apex seal, they quote me 21k leh..... Of course got used engine lah..... 20B wor must be scary....
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by davidykhor
i know the guys in sunway way before they were famous , all of them , including jaafar ... when jaafar is still learning from his sifu mr tur** s**** last time.

just that i haven't c anyone for a long time except for jaafar cause he does exhaust. all my cars have exhaust upgrades .

back to the days when i was driving my saga/iswara/wira i always go sunway too haha :P
Since you knew Sunway so long, haven't you heard how bad N1/Desmond/Melissa are???
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by yohji
Hi bro,Thing can be simple.For me if i send my car to a workshop and know who is the shop sifu's wif more experience i will allow him to touch my car otherwise stay away from my car.Since i believed the shop sifu so much and if he let other ppl to do the job i really willl screw him up!!!Unless,i just need to change something like oil filter or engine oil otherwise...........Like what kean said workmanship is very important.Or why don't u send back ur car and ask them to re-do the thing and only ask for the sifu not those bangla!!!Not to say i look down them u know....i do really sympathy them and i buy coke and pay tips for those guys who wash my car at damansara last time and **** happen!Got 1 smart fella from other planet he use thinner to help me removed dirty thing from my front bumper OMG,forget to tell him that earth is very dangerous and pls go back to their planet......
Bro, some thinner wasn't harmful to your paint.......
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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wah david seems u very old ler. not that i discriminate uncles. just that like yohji say i also wanna be your grandson! hahahah!
to me, to have someone do a 20b before me is a great news. why don't you try aussie guy. they have really good experience with 20b and it cost u cheaper. if u see how their car jump off the ground with a 20B u will be woo wee!

how much does a new renesis engine cost?
uncle ? i haven't even reach 30 years old fyi. i know theese guys way before i have my driving license.

kayalennon . i know, but still they treat me okay , so i don't mind

as for lennon : there is the disc support reinforcement, basically the piece that holds your clutch in place, and the shaft . the upgrade can hold 800hp easilly. also they will reprogram your tcu as well , reinforce bout 4k+ , reprogram bout 3k+ . thats my cost, once i did it to my m3(which is now sold), the engine blew cause i overboosted it with a pulley upgrade. transmission was fine .. so i ended up fly a half cut m3 engine in, buy a new engine kosong block, machine back the engine number on it and then assemble then sold the car off.

if u want to modify conti cars u can ask me anytime la :P ,japanese cars i am a newbie.

btw, the money printing machine is at lennon's office, go ask him ..

also lennon , i can buy the apex seal , and i am getting some datasheets on how to build a rotary, if u got a spare engine we can experiment ourself, i can rebuild a mercedes v6 engine myself for god sake ... the M112 version . cause i rebuilt my own one for 2 times already, i melted piston once... i overboosted the supercharger... bad habit.
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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david uncle... *cough*... you really expert ah... give us the data sheets also. but do u know we can download the whole engine detail from this forum? every bit and pieces. may be not everything but a lot man.

how much does a new renesis cost?

how much is a set of tein Super street suspension for RX8? still haven't decide what to do to my suspension... =_=''' rosak!
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by davidykhor
uncle ? i haven't even reach 30 years old fyi. i know theese guys way before i have my driving license.

kayalennon . i know, but still they treat me okay , so i don't mind

as for lennon : there is the disc support reinforcement, basically the piece that holds your clutch in place, and the shaft . the upgrade can hold 800hp easilly. also they will reprogram your tcu as well , reinforce bout 4k+ , reprogram bout 3k+ . thats my cost, once i did it to my m3(which is now sold), the engine blew cause i overboosted it with a pulley upgrade. transmission was fine .. so i ended up fly a half cut m3 engine in, buy a new engine kosong block, machine back the engine number on it and then assemble then sold the car off.

if u want to modify conti cars u can ask me anytime la :P ,japanese cars i am a newbie.

btw, the money printing machine is at lennon's office, go ask him ..

also lennon , i can buy the apex seal , and i am getting some datasheets on how to build a rotary, if u got a spare engine we can experiment ourself, i can rebuild a mercedes v6 engine myself for god sake ... the M112 version . cause i rebuilt my own one for 2 times already, i melted piston once... i overboosted the supercharger... bad habit.
HEi.... You don't kacau my BMW, that one just for working purpose..... Stock car is often better, since i'm lazy to fix two car at once........ Choi Choi Choi.......

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