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im no expert but i got some info on this.. from an expert.
he said there is no need to install an extra oil cooler for street cars.
if you do the oil pressure will drop due to the extra distance the oil has to travel.
additional oil cooler is only useful if u r a regular at the track, where the engine operates on high rpm most of the time.
if u have disposable cash, its better to do mods that add value to ur street car, like removing catalyc converter.
but ur car is auto correct? how powerful is the auto actually?
i only have opinion from a 2nd hand car dealer who recently brought in an auto unit, he said no pickup, lost to satria gti.. is it like this or is it just his car?
he said there is no need to install an extra oil cooler for street cars.
if you do the oil pressure will drop due to the extra distance the oil has to travel.
additional oil cooler is only useful if u r a regular at the track, where the engine operates on high rpm most of the time.
if u have disposable cash, its better to do mods that add value to ur street car, like removing catalyc converter.
but ur car is auto correct? how powerful is the auto actually?
i only have opinion from a 2nd hand car dealer who recently brought in an auto unit, he said no pickup, lost to satria gti.. is it like this or is it just his car?
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Originally Posted by jaii13
Is it an open track day? How many cars?
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Originally Posted by theboy
when i almost click buy in japanparts.com my friend call me up and told me that.
having another oil cooler might cause unsmoothness of gear shift. because the atf might not be hot enough. is this true?
basically the only problem with our 4AT is that the atf cooler "volumn" & "surface" is not sufficient to produce a cold gearbox.
but it is good for racing when the gearbox heat up fast because it produce faster gear shift. however no one of us know how much heat the gearbox can take. so when u are driving agressively will the gearbox crack? thats another issue.
pro & con?
so what ever u decided to do. there will be effects both way.
Pros out there please teach me something here.
having another oil cooler might cause unsmoothness of gear shift. because the atf might not be hot enough. is this true?
basically the only problem with our 4AT is that the atf cooler "volumn" & "surface" is not sufficient to produce a cold gearbox.
but it is good for racing when the gearbox heat up fast because it produce faster gear shift. however no one of us know how much heat the gearbox can take. so when u are driving agressively will the gearbox crack? thats another issue.
pro & con?
so what ever u decided to do. there will be effects both way.
Pros out there please teach me something here.
This is really making me laugh......
Atf cooler dont need to be big, as long you have one, it will be sufficient to cool the gearbox, it's better than not having one.....
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Originally Posted by lennon
There are 2 sessions JSOC given.... one is 1st Jan 7-9am, another one is 8-10pm same day...... Maybe the night session is taken by JSOC, so only the morning session..... Limited space.........
Lennon,
Guess I'm in with the JSOC crowd then. Will be with my MR2. What about you? Going?
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Originally Posted by lennon
What is the corellation between ATF cooler and oil cooler?? Nothing at all...... How can an engine oil cooler make the gearshift unsmooth??? This is really making me laugh...... Atf cooler dont need to be big, as long you have one, it will be sufficient to cool the gearbox, it's better than not having one.....
This is really making me laugh...... Atf cooler dont need to be big, as long you have one, it will be sufficient to cool the gearbox, it's better than not having one.....However, it may be tiny and looks like the ATF Cooler is cooled by our water instead of aftermarket ones which is cooled by air.
I've also been thinking of either an additional Oil Cooler or just get an ATF cooler. Since the AT only has single Oil Cooler vs the MT having double, us AT fella's can afford to have either.
Anyone care to comment?
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Originally Posted by Goober8
Lennon,
Guess I'm in with the JSOC crowd then. Will be with my MR2. What about you? Going?
Guess I'm in with the JSOC crowd then. Will be with my MR2. What about you? Going?
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Originally Posted by lennon
What is the corellation between ATF cooler and oil cooler?? Nothing at all...... How can an engine oil cooler make the gearshift unsmooth??? This is really making me laugh...... Atf cooler dont need to be big, as long you have one, it will be sufficient to cool the gearbox, it's better than not having one.....
This is really making me laugh...... Atf cooler dont need to be big, as long you have one, it will be sufficient to cool the gearbox, it's better than not having one.....
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Originally Posted by Goober8
Lennon - Standard AT already has an ATF cooler. See attached pic I got from the RX8 Workshop manual. Part No.5 is the ATF cooler.
However, it may be tiny and looks like the ATF Cooler is cooled by our water instead of aftermarket ones which is cooled by air.
I've also been thinking of either an additional Oil Cooler or just get an ATF cooler. Since the AT only has single Oil Cooler vs the MT having double, us AT fella's can afford to have either.
Anyone care to comment?
However, it may be tiny and looks like the ATF Cooler is cooled by our water instead of aftermarket ones which is cooled by air.
I've also been thinking of either an additional Oil Cooler or just get an ATF cooler. Since the AT only has single Oil Cooler vs the MT having double, us AT fella's can afford to have either.
Anyone care to comment?
I do think ATF should come first, Wood do feel the cabin is cooler after installing it....
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Originally Posted by lennon
We meet last week friday to sign up for the track day, we ask those who are not going to sign up too in order to get more time slot...... Mickey is friend of JSOC sure have to jio him..... I'm going but not tracking, i'll be passenger...
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Originally Posted by Goober8
Lennon - Standard AT already has an ATF cooler. See attached pic I got from the RX8 Workshop manual. Part No.5 is the ATF cooler.
However, it may be tiny and looks like the ATF Cooler is cooled by our water instead of aftermarket ones which is cooled by air.
I've also been thinking of either an additional Oil Cooler or just get an ATF cooler. Since the AT only has single Oil Cooler vs the MT having double, us AT fella's can afford to have either.
Anyone care to comment?
However, it may be tiny and looks like the ATF Cooler is cooled by our water instead of aftermarket ones which is cooled by air.
I've also been thinking of either an additional Oil Cooler or just get an ATF cooler. Since the AT only has single Oil Cooler vs the MT having double, us AT fella's can afford to have either.
Anyone care to comment?
ok so i have my driver site cooler space occupied... don't worry here's more.
On ATF. i haven't install mine but, what i am looking for is comfort on the 4AT after installing the ATF cooler. i heard a lot telling me that it will reduce the console heat which u can feel every drive. the problem with our 4AT ATF is the design of the cooler. like what goober8 show.
weakness:
1. its just a small oil-rail, slower heat distribution propety with out meshing.
2. volumn distribute into the oil-rail is limited, might not be as good compare to other ATF cooler. limited circulation.
3. Outlets design of the oil-rail. does this seem like there is no circulation? since there are so close together.
So when your mind is still wondering where to put the ATF after installing the Extra oil cooler...... congratulation, RE amemiya have an ATF cooler that can be place infront the radiator with all the braket.
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Originally Posted by theshortshortman
Malaysian RX8 Owners (pls post your nickname and contact no).
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1) theshortshortman 012 28666 99 (Marcus) RX8 Club Malaysia President
2) burnog 012 3719 987 (Aaron)
3) seanlft 012 3928 333 (Sean)
4) boonyloh 019 3883 113 (Adrian)
5) voyager18 012 3870 600 (Steven)
6) lennon 012 2338 484 (Kean)
7) Boykichap 012 2206 411 (Nor Izham)
8) vincent 012 2010 175 President of JSOC (not registered in this site yet)
9) Rimman 012 2262 080 (Richard)
10) amelia 012 2865 601 (Amelia)
11) jihan 012 2096 264 (not registered in this site yet)
12) KC Lee/Audrey 012 3326 554 (not registered in this site yet)
13) K.O Lai 012 2094 448 (not registered in this site yet)
14) ShamuTheGreyFrog 012 3858 705 (Dayang)
15) Fabian 012 3773 333 (not registered to this site yet)
16) Chong 012 2882 588 (not registered to this site yet)
17) Esgot 016 2551 418 (not registered to this site yet)
18) Ken 012 3958 410 (not registered to this site yet)
19) Sean1212 012 3096 616 (Sean Low)
20) chonghm 012 2897 272 (Chong)
21) david 012 3990 900
22) Mr Bing 012 2019 026 (Darul)
23) Kong (Sabah) 016 8260 084 (Kong)
24) Diablo 012 2785 104 (Amir)
25) Jaii13 012 3377 411 (Jaii)
26) Jtan 012 3719 037 (Alex)
27) theboy 016 8100 005 (Benny) Rx8 Club Malaysia Sabah President
28) rx_king6668 016 9732 661 (Zamri)
29) kienhong83 012 2175 231 (Kent)
30) Devin 012 3990 900 (not registered to this site yet)
31) bitbit 012 4947 805 (Ah Shin)
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33) mrhjb 012 7868 168 (Rasheed)
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51) Zildjian 012 6804 003 (Nori)
52) Alan Ng 016 8199 494 (Alan)
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Originally Posted by lennon
Engine oil got 7liter in total, AT transmission oil got 12liter if i'm not wrong....... If the No.5 is the ATF cooler, than believe me it's useless as a cooling tool....... Most of the time, our water is 90 degree above, heat transfer will be minimal, it might end up overheating the engine.......... So if put a cheap cheap ATF cooler like Hayden or customade, engine and transmission will have independent cooler...... add one Mazdaspeed oil cooler, your engine will feel like a fridge.... heheh
I do think ATF should come first, Wood do feel the cabin is cooler after installing it....
I do think ATF should come first, Wood do feel the cabin is cooler after installing it....
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Originally Posted by theboy
So when your mind is still wondering where to put the ATF after installing the Extra oil cooler...... congratulation, RE amemiya have an ATF cooler that can be place infront the radiator with all the braket.
http://www.blitz-performance.com/Blitz_Aftcooler.htm
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Originally Posted by Zero_Rotary
Blitz also got n can mount in front of the radiator...plus Blitz ATF cooler is thicker, slightly bigger n not forgetting a bit cheaper than RE
http://www.blitz-performance.com/Blitz_Aftcooler.htm
http://www.blitz-performance.com/Blitz_Aftcooler.htm
RE is recommend cause u can get it from local shop and even japanparts.com
avaibility of it.
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Originally Posted by theboy
i don't think its cheaper in malaysia or in even worse in north borneo.
RE is recommend cause u can get it from local shop and even japanparts.com
avaibility of it.
RE is recommend cause u can get it from local shop and even japanparts.com
avaibility of it.
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Originally Posted by theboy
HAH! brunei got!? i got friend going brunei every month to get car card chop. i will ask him. whats the name of the shop?
only 2 shop famous in Brunei for ordering stuffs from Japan...but at the SHH pro shop JUN and HKS tuners at times comes here to tune cars...check out the website below
-Sen Yeong
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-SHH Pro Shop ( http://www.shhproshop.com )
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Originally Posted by lennon
It's conjunction with THE MALAYSIAN BOOK RECORDS attempt to break 50 hours none stop tracking......... If you're interested, you gotta come to the brief tomolo night at 10pm....... Actually there's a bundle of cars going but can confirmed the track wont be jammed....
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From: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Originally Posted by Zero_Rotary
well i got it ordered last year for $600 brunei dollars from a local shop...a tiny bit cheaper than the RE seen in japanparts (including delivery that is) plus its bigger and thicker
What's the exchange rate from Brunei Dollar to Ringgit?
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Originally Posted by Zero_Rotary
yea...even i see malaysian EVOs go here to buy parts and services...but compare to Singapore, there always slightly cheaper la...
only 2 shop famous in Brunei for ordering stuffs from Japan...but at the SHH pro shop JUN and HKS tuners at times comes here to tune cars...check out the website below
-Sen Yeong
&
-SHH Pro Shop ( http://www.shhproshop.com )
only 2 shop famous in Brunei for ordering stuffs from Japan...but at the SHH pro shop JUN and HKS tuners at times comes here to tune cars...check out the website below
-Sen Yeong
&
-SHH Pro Shop ( http://www.shhproshop.com )
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Originally Posted by jaii13
Yeah read about that at zth.com. As much as I'm interested, its on Hari Raya Haji, and registration closed. I'm still wondering how you only get 2 time slots of 4 hours when its a 50 hours attempt. I think slots are given to individuals which then organise their own groups. Right?
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