GI: Feeler for Install Meet on May 24 Weekend
05-16-2008, 10:11 AM
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Also, I only have a set of four stands, and a 2 ton jack pump. If anyone can bring a set of stands that would really help. rx8thunder i believe is bringing a compressor and impact wrench, in case worst case scenario the bolts are on too tight and liquid wrench cant free them. Wcs can you bring your torque wrenches or anyone for that matter, I know its not needed, but just in case. i havent invested in a set, and dont want us stranded midway during an install. Do you guys think a blow torch is also needed, the portable ones using propane? Let me know. Just wanna make sure everyone comes here and leaves modded.
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05-16-2008, 10:15 AM
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For lunch/dinner let me know what you guys wanna do. I got an old bbq we could grill up on in the front yard, or we could grab a few snacks during the installs and head out to a pub/bar. If you non Markham/Richmond Hill people are interested we can head out to All Star Wings. If we order a 100 wings, it works out to 50 cents a wing. Plus they have over a 100 different flavours of wings, including the Armageddon there, where SERIOUSLY a WAIVER needs to be signed on for them to make you a batch, which you cant take home, but gotta eat there. Get a decent time, and get on the WALL OF FLAME. Also they got some awesome nachos there. Or we could go out to the local furken, on the Mainstreet in Unionville. The All Stars Place is in the same parking lot of the timmies meet from the morning. Let me know.
05-16-2008, 10:16 AM
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Awesome sauce. I'm so in. I'll bring beer for whoever wants to help me clean my MAF sensor :D
I'm still a newb since I only got my car at the end of Feb. I'm hoping to learn a lot from you guys!
I'm still a newb since I only got my car at the end of Feb. I'm hoping to learn a lot from you guys!
05-16-2008, 10:44 AM
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I can bring Gran Turismo 5 Prologue , MotorStorm, and DiRT for PS3. If you have a Wii, I have a stack of games too. Is Neo an FD driver? I would seriously cream my pants to sit inside an FD. It's been my favourite car since I was 12 years old.
05-16-2008, 11:06 AM
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Sorry Thief, as Pros has put it, I'll be getting a few parts installed on the Miata that day. Otherwise I would have brought the FD out. Provided of course the weather is nice. 
I'm pretty sure we'll all be busy installing stuff to be worried about gaming. lol
I should be able to make it down for 12pm or so.
I like to sleep. Especially when you get to bed at 4am that same day.
I hope the weather is better next week. I haven't driven the FD since our lapping day at Mosport. I'm missing the power.
I'm pretty sure we'll all be busy installing stuff to be worried about gaming. lol
I should be able to make it down for 12pm or so.
I like to sleep. Especially when you get to bed at 4am that same day.
I hope the weather is better next week. I haven't driven the FD since our lapping day at Mosport. I'm missing the power.
05-16-2008, 12:50 PM
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Also, I only have a set of four stands, and a 2 ton jack pump. If anyone can bring a set of stands that would really help. rx8thunder i believe is bringing a compressor and impact wrench, in case worst case scenario the bolts are on too tight and liquid wrench cant free them. Wcs can you bring your torque wrenches or anyone for that matter, I know its not needed, but just in case. i havent invested in a set, and dont want us stranded midway during an install. Do you guys think a blow torch is also needed, the portable ones using propane? Let me know. Just wanna make sure everyone comes here and leaves modded.
05-16-2008, 06:15 PM
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You're really optimisitc about the outcome of some of these installs! lol
You never know what you'll run into. You think something might take about 20min's. You run into a few road blocks, and before you know it you're at 2hrs. lol
I seriously doubt we'll have any time to do any golfing.
Some gaming and the pub, for sure. But golfing?! I seriously doubt it!
You never know what you'll run into. You think something might take about 20min's. You run into a few road blocks, and before you know it you're at 2hrs. lol
I seriously doubt we'll have any time to do any golfing.
Some gaming and the pub, for sure. But golfing?! I seriously doubt it!
05-16-2008, 08:08 PM
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Got an impact wrench, so will be bringing that... In terms of the food (BBQ stuff), the guys getting stuff installed should be paying for it, not the helpers, right?
05-16-2008, 08:21 PM
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not really, its not like we are paying toinstall stuff, consider this like a motm test run, lol. I guess we can just grab small stuff then head out to the pub at night after the install, unless people have places to be. Just like last time, if everyone pitches in 5 or 10 bucks i think thats more enough.
05-17-2008, 02:23 AM
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rx8thunder,
Getting a lighter wheel will always play to your advantage. That is, if you're still dealing with stock dimensions. The minute you start getting bigger and wider wheels, you'll always have a bit more weight than an aftermarket wheel that has OEM dimensions.
Still, even saving 1.7lbs on a wheel/tire combo that is slightly wider than stock dimensions, you will notice the difference in terms of handling.
Gas consumption will be a different story. You now have more rubber against the pavement so you've saved on wheel weight, but you'll be consuming more fuel due to the added friction.
There's always a compromise.
Take my wheels for example. The stock wheel was 16x8 running a 225/50 rubber. The car had alot of oversteer with the added power I gave it.
Moving up to the OEM optional wheel of 17x8 in the front and 17x8.5 in the back running 245/40 front and 255/40 in the rear has significantly reduced the oversteer tendencies of the car.
I have noticed the slight hesitation now that I'm running an overall heavier wheel/tire combo. So the car feels safer but it has lost a bit of it's go-kart feel.
Don't get me wrong, it still moves very quick on its feet. Just not as fast as it was with the stock size.
Now the overall weight of the optional wheels has increased the weight by almost 2lbs at each corner. Still very light weight for OEM equipment, but you do notice that additional weight in each corner.
There will always be a compromise if you stray from the OEM wheel dimensions.
Personally, since you haven't added additional power to the car, I would do what Agent008 did. He went with a slightly narrow wheel at 18x7.5 with the stock size rubber. He didn't think he would notice any difference, but he quickly saw what a 18lb wheel feels like compared to the stock 23lb wheel. The car reacts alot quicker now. And the wheel is running the proper wheel size for its width.
Mazda has a tendency to stretch the rubber on a wider wheel than it was intended for.
Ideally for an 8inch wide wheel you should be running a 245 size rubber. 225 is stretch. I'm pretty sure they do this to quicken the reaction of the steering without adding any additional weight to either the tire size or the wheel size.
Getting a lighter wheel will always play to your advantage. That is, if you're still dealing with stock dimensions. The minute you start getting bigger and wider wheels, you'll always have a bit more weight than an aftermarket wheel that has OEM dimensions.
Still, even saving 1.7lbs on a wheel/tire combo that is slightly wider than stock dimensions, you will notice the difference in terms of handling.
Gas consumption will be a different story. You now have more rubber against the pavement so you've saved on wheel weight, but you'll be consuming more fuel due to the added friction.
There's always a compromise.
Take my wheels for example. The stock wheel was 16x8 running a 225/50 rubber. The car had alot of oversteer with the added power I gave it.
Moving up to the OEM optional wheel of 17x8 in the front and 17x8.5 in the back running 245/40 front and 255/40 in the rear has significantly reduced the oversteer tendencies of the car.
I have noticed the slight hesitation now that I'm running an overall heavier wheel/tire combo. So the car feels safer but it has lost a bit of it's go-kart feel.
Don't get me wrong, it still moves very quick on its feet. Just not as fast as it was with the stock size.
Now the overall weight of the optional wheels has increased the weight by almost 2lbs at each corner. Still very light weight for OEM equipment, but you do notice that additional weight in each corner.
There will always be a compromise if you stray from the OEM wheel dimensions.
Personally, since you haven't added additional power to the car, I would do what Agent008 did. He went with a slightly narrow wheel at 18x7.5 with the stock size rubber. He didn't think he would notice any difference, but he quickly saw what a 18lb wheel feels like compared to the stock 23lb wheel. The car reacts alot quicker now. And the wheel is running the proper wheel size for its width.
Mazda has a tendency to stretch the rubber on a wider wheel than it was intended for.
Ideally for an 8inch wide wheel you should be running a 245 size rubber. 225 is stretch. I'm pretty sure they do this to quicken the reaction of the steering without adding any additional weight to either the tire size or the wheel size.
05-17-2008, 06:49 AM
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Qucken the reaction is quite true, saving a few pounds is still saving. However, Agent 008 did go narrower, but I perfer to go wider for that larger stance, essentially giving you more grip on the track. Thats why the 18 x 9.5 RPF1 is popular. Agent008 has been invited for next weeks meet, your free to ask him all types of questions if you like.
05-17-2008, 12:21 PM
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rx8thunder,
Getting a lighter wheel will always play to your advantage. That is, if you're still dealing with stock dimensions. The minute you start getting bigger and wider wheels, you'll always have a bit more weight than an aftermarket wheel that has OEM dimensions.
Still, even saving 1.7lbs on a wheel/tire combo that is slightly wider than stock dimensions, you will notice the difference in terms of handling.
Gas consumption will be a different story. You now have more rubber against the pavement so you've saved on wheel weight, but you'll be consuming more fuel due to the added friction.
There's always a compromise.
Take my wheels for example. The stock wheel was 16x8 running a 225/50 rubber. The car had alot of oversteer with the added power I gave it.
Moving up to the OEM optional wheel of 17x8 in the front and 17x8.5 in the back running 245/40 front and 255/40 in the rear has significantly reduced the oversteer tendencies of the car.
I have noticed the slight hesitation now that I'm running an overall heavier wheel/tire combo. So the car feels safer but it has lost a bit of it's go-kart feel.
Don't get me wrong, it still moves very quick on its feet. Just not as fast as it was with the stock size.
Now the overall weight of the optional wheels has increased the weight by almost 2lbs at each corner. Still very light weight for OEM equipment, but you do notice that additional weight in each corner.
There will always be a compromise if you stray from the OEM wheel dimensions.
Personally, since you haven't added additional power to the car, I would do what Agent008 did. He went with a slightly narrow wheel at 18x7.5 with the stock size rubber. He didn't think he would notice any difference, but he quickly saw what a 18lb wheel feels like compared to the stock 23lb wheel. The car reacts alot quicker now. And the wheel is running the proper wheel size for its width.
Mazda has a tendency to stretch the rubber on a wider wheel than it was intended for.
Ideally for an 8inch wide wheel you should be running a 245 size rubber. 225 is stretch. I'm pretty sure they do this to quicken the reaction of the steering without adding any additional weight to either the tire size or the wheel size.
Getting a lighter wheel will always play to your advantage. That is, if you're still dealing with stock dimensions. The minute you start getting bigger and wider wheels, you'll always have a bit more weight than an aftermarket wheel that has OEM dimensions.
Still, even saving 1.7lbs on a wheel/tire combo that is slightly wider than stock dimensions, you will notice the difference in terms of handling.
Gas consumption will be a different story. You now have more rubber against the pavement so you've saved on wheel weight, but you'll be consuming more fuel due to the added friction.
There's always a compromise.
Take my wheels for example. The stock wheel was 16x8 running a 225/50 rubber. The car had alot of oversteer with the added power I gave it.
Moving up to the OEM optional wheel of 17x8 in the front and 17x8.5 in the back running 245/40 front and 255/40 in the rear has significantly reduced the oversteer tendencies of the car.
I have noticed the slight hesitation now that I'm running an overall heavier wheel/tire combo. So the car feels safer but it has lost a bit of it's go-kart feel.
Don't get me wrong, it still moves very quick on its feet. Just not as fast as it was with the stock size.
Now the overall weight of the optional wheels has increased the weight by almost 2lbs at each corner. Still very light weight for OEM equipment, but you do notice that additional weight in each corner.
There will always be a compromise if you stray from the OEM wheel dimensions.
Personally, since you haven't added additional power to the car, I would do what Agent008 did. He went with a slightly narrow wheel at 18x7.5 with the stock size rubber. He didn't think he would notice any difference, but he quickly saw what a 18lb wheel feels like compared to the stock 23lb wheel. The car reacts alot quicker now. And the wheel is running the proper wheel size for its width.
Mazda has a tendency to stretch the rubber on a wider wheel than it was intended for.
Ideally for an 8inch wide wheel you should be running a 245 size rubber. 225 is stretch. I'm pretty sure they do this to quicken the reaction of the steering without adding any additional weight to either the tire size or the wheel size.
Thanks Neo, that provides great perspective. I think you're bang on with your assessment. The only thing I'm struggling with is looks vs performance -- wish I could have both but in the end, for me, performance will likely prevail...
Jay, I hope you were convincing with your invite to agent008 -- would liek to speak to him at the meet...
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05-17-2008, 01:50 PM
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rx8thunder,
No worries.
Aesthetics plays a great deal on wheels as well.
I try to stay as close to factory parts as possible. They're the only ones that provide the proper offsets and what not. You know they tested this stuff before offering it to the public.
That being said, there are some respectible aftermarket companies who try to offer you better performance along with "pimpin" looks.
I'll remind Agent008 about the install next week. You can check out his Enkei's out. They look great on the car!
No worries.
Aesthetics plays a great deal on wheels as well.
I try to stay as close to factory parts as possible. They're the only ones that provide the proper offsets and what not. You know they tested this stuff before offering it to the public.
That being said, there are some respectible aftermarket companies who try to offer you better performance along with "pimpin" looks.
I'll remind Agent008 about the install next week. You can check out his Enkei's out. They look great on the car!
05-17-2008, 11:28 PM
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