you did say you have a cat on though right? that might be why your gains arent so large?

 

This relates to my question in the FI and MAF thread because I may end up needing to run my EMU for the MAP sensor if I max out the MAF.

 

You will become so huge that yo cant bend your arms to grab the remote to enjoy your HD channels. You will then become stuck on the couch, and need someone to spoon feed you, and wipe your ***.

 

I think we have too many threads about the AP going - it's making my head spin off.

 

Wear a triangle hat, you'll look like a rotor

 

My car is completely stock as far as engine/intake/exhaust goes. I'll be honest, I thought 10hp, straight outta the box, wasn't a bad number. And I'm sure after a few more drive cycles, that number may have popped up just a couple more. I'm definitely not disappointed with the outcome thus far, and figure things can only get better from here.

 

The basic calibration "families" that I include run the range from mild to very aggressive. You start with something easy and then work your way up to something that could, if you aren't careful, eat your motor. Discretion is important here.
The way it works: You start with the mild flash ("MM N/A 1", "MM N/A 2", "MM FI 1", etc.) that is appropriate for your car and then monitor the fuel trims on the AP. Once they are established, you look on the provided matrix for the appropriate sub-flash ("a", "b", "c", etc), install it and watch the fuel trims again. Once the trims are accurate, you can then work your way up the tree to the more aggressive calibrations using the proper sub-flash number to get the trim level right.
This method will probably get you right to the ragged edge with the same accuracy as a dyno tune.
However, you can hire me or someone else that is a Cobb-authorized PRO tuner to come over ant fine-tune the thing on a dyno if you prefer.

I just did that because the EMU allowed me to log what I was experimenting with on the AP very, very accurately.
Remember, when I got the AP, there was no FI calibration. I had to make it up out of thin air. As you might realize, the Renesis doesn't like mistakes, so I was hedging my bets. My EMU is sitting on my bench under a stack of junk.
You will simply remove any aftermarket engine management you have and plug the AP and follow the directions. That is it.

If you over-run your MAF, just go to a bigger tube. Problem solved. Sell your EMU.

 

So...would a high flow cat (metallic) get as much gains as no cat for an NA application?

According to cobb an intake doesn't really help with hp gains, would a catback have any benefit if one already has a catless midpipe or high flow cat?

 

But, I don't have enuff room to fit a keg in my engine bay.

At least my EMU is wired for add/trim.

 

The EMU does some slightly funky stuff to the MAF and ignition timing, so it might interfere with the AP. I make up for that in the EMU tune, but you will be zeroing the EMU, so the error will remain.
YMMV.

 

After reading thru 23 pages of wood-inspiring info....I'm sold....I want one. My only problem is that I only have a credit card to work with. I'd buy direct from Cobb, but I want the additional tunes that MM has.

I suppose if that's my biggest problem, then I've got it pretty good. Still sucks tho.

 

^ You can pay via paypal using your credit card.

 

...for $21

 

Sorry. That is the fee for using credit. I don't have enough volume to qualify for a discount.

Click on the AccessPORT image in my SIG if you want to purchase one.

 

I guess it's my only option then

 

MM any more dyno graphs or numbers to come in the next few days?

 

when I get mine, assuming there are no problems, I plan to get a dyno done shortly after.

 

I have an appointment for the dyno on Friday, but I'm not really expecting any more power. My turbo setup was pretty well tuned before the AP.
The drivability difference, while basically impossible to graph, is the real improvement.

 

Do tuners have to have any kind of separate software to program these?

 

Have you already dyno'd that NA car you mentioned previously?

 

Yes. On the same dyno that I will dyno it on again.

Yes. It is a special professional software package from Cobb.

 

how did the N/A rx8 results go? it was a 05 with no cat converter right?

 

I'll have a modified NA dyno one day in the future...

Just waiting on FedEx, UPS, and Yellow Freight

 

It was 128 ft/lbs and 184 HP. I have another that did 204 HP or so, but I will test with him at a later date.

 

arent those numbers just about what huzer got, and his car is all stock WITH a cat?? that seems odd.

EDIT: nevermind just found out in the later posts, those are before the new cobb flash.