I paid 760$ for a Cobb AP on the 16th of September 2008 and I got nothing. Its now the 24th August 2009 and I have not received any tracking numbers from him, or any response to pm's or emails I sent him.

I did one mistake. After month without getting anything I wrote him I've wrecked my car (my car feels wonderful) and want the money because I thougt, ok, he never sent it (never got any tracking number from him) so he can just give me my money back and everthing will be ok.

Now, everyone here is thinking I'm not telling the truth, got my AP and just want my money back because I wrecked the car. Again, I've never wrecked it, I just wrote it hoping to get my money back this way because I NEVER got my AP.

MM did and is doing nothing. He has to show me that he really shipped my AP. I want to see the tracking number for my package. MM, just post it here in this thread.

I can verify I paid it, now you have to verify you've sent it!!!

Kazuma.

And you couldn't say this in the existing thread because...?

And you couldn't say this in the existing thread because...?Because I'm not lancefan and I want to dicuss this situation with MM in this thread!

Kazuma

Now, everyone here is thinking I'm not telling the truth, got my AP and just want my money back because I wrecked the car. Again, I've never wrecked it, I just wrote it hoping to get my money back this way because I NEVER got my AP.

This is why people are having a difficult time believing you... because you already lied once.
If you would have been honest from the beginning, things might have worked out better for you.

When I first ordered my AP I ran into a financial situation.
I wrote Jeff asking him if he could refund me because of my situation.
He wrote me back saying, "no problem" and even gave me kind words wishing me well with my situation (first time he actually showed a heart towards me ;))

All I'm getting at is I hope you learn from this and realize that you'll get more in life if you are honest with people.
I hope you and Jeff can work something out and I don't think its unreasonable for you to ask for a tracking number.
Hopefully Jeff can simply post it up and lay this to rest.

When I first ordered my AP I ran into a financial situation.
I wrote Jeff asking him if he could refund me because of my situation.
He wrote me back saying, "no problem" and even gave me kind words wishing me well with my situation (first time he actually showed a heart towards me ;))

.

I had exactly the same thing happen and I asked him to refund me for the 3071 turbo upgrade he had made up for me . He did so without any fuss and I was most gratefull . Still like to give him sh*t about other stuff but from this experience I know he is someone I would trust .

MM is a lot of things but a thief..... C'mon.

He has bent over backwards for me countless times during the tuning process. If you really want to work this out I would try an email to him personally.

jeff at mazdamaniac dot com

This is why people are having a difficult time believing you... because you already lied once.
If you would have been honest from the beginning, things might have worked out better for you.

When I first ordered my AP I ran into a financial situation.
I wrote Jeff asking him if he could refund me because of my situation.
He wrote me back saying, "no problem" and even gave me kind words wishing me well with my situation (first time he actually showed a heart towards me ;))

All I'm getting at is I hope you learn from this and realize that you'll get more in life if you are honest with people.
I hope you and Jeff can work something out and I don't think its unreasonable for you to ask for a tracking number.
Hopefully Jeff can simply post it up and lay this to rest.After month without any reaction from MM I thought it would be a chance to get my money back...

Again, I really don't understand why it's soooo difficult for him to send me the tracking number. Should be no problem if my AP was sent, think about it.

Just because MM is thinking he really shipped it doesn't mean he really did it. Everyone can lose sometimes!!! I think that's the case...

I doubt that he would forget about shipping. He orders the APs individually and then ships them.
You should have asked the tracking number immediately anyway, not after months!

I doubt that he would forget about shipping. He orders the APs individually and then ships them.
You should have asked the tracking number immediately anyway, not after months!I did so but never recieved one!!!

Sorry to hear that, i thought that you just came up after a long time saying that you didn't receive it. My fault.
I'm sorry for this whole situation too since you don't actually know who to blame without having a tracking number in your hands. I know for sure that MazdaManiac would not screw somebody but mistakes do happen. Whether it is on his side or on the shipping company is a mystery then.

Something to notice and that might help you is that Jeff has been screwed by some "smart" users in the past so always reminding him that you're not attacking in any way could speed things up.

Sorry to hear that, i thought that you just came up after a long time saying that you didn't receive it. My fault.
I'm sorry for this whole situation too since you don't actually know who to blame without having a tracking number in your hands. I know for sure that MazdaManiac would not screw somebody but mistakes do happen. Whether it is on his side or on the shipping company is a mystery then.

Something to notice and that might help you is that Jeff has been screwed by some "smart" users in the past so always reminding him that you're not attacking in any way could speed things up.This is why I want the tracking number. I want to show the people here and MM that I never recieved the AP! But he is doing nothing! Why should I tell him to provide the tracking number here in this thread if I recieved it, think about it...
I don't understand why he is doing nothing. That isn't the way you should handle your customers!

Jeff should definitely provide some proof but i'm not his or your lawyer so i really can't do much and i usually hate being in this kind of threads.
I started posting here because of a misread so now i really don't have much to say.

basically hes blowing you off for lying to him but if you didnt receive your AP and he dont wanna pay back or show proof of shipping ,he is stealing your money. i will get in contact with him and try to resolve good or eventually get a lawyer

is it just me or does anyone else feel like there's something missing from this story?

is it just me or does anyone else feel like there's something missing from this story?Can you please tell me what do you mean?

is it just me or does anyone else feel like there's something missing from this story?

I agree. MM's input is missing. I'm sure there's a decent explaination for this. Everyone will be happy sharing tea and crumpetts together eventually.

I agree. MM's input is missing. I'm sure there's a decent explaination for this. Everyone will be happy sharing tea and crumpetts together eventually.

I wasn't referring to MM's input, but I get the feeling that we are not seeing the entire story.

I wasn't referring to MM's input, but I get the feeling that we are not seeing the entire story.

Oh yes, I still agree with you.

It is the entire story! I've paid the AP and never got an AP or a tracking number! It's that simple!

Well if you paid, I don't care what the excuse is you should get your item. I would ruin his name the same way you are if I got put in this spot. However, this isn't the entire story and we need to hear both sides of it.

I don't want to ruin his name or something. I just want to find out with him what was going on...! I don't say that MM is lying, only that something went very wrong and I think the tracking number is the key!

You paid.
I shipped your AP.
You received your tracking number immediately. (You didn't receive a "shipped" notice from Google because I do that manually and I wasn't using that feature back then.)
Then, months later - after I had already received your delivery confirmation and you received your AccessPORT - you destroyed your car and were suddenly needing money and figured you would scam me for the AP.

I don't have access to the old paper receipts for items I shipped last year and were received. After I get a confirmation that the item is delivered, I box that stuff up. When my living situation changed at the beginning of the year, I destroyed most of last year's old paperwork. I simply had no need for the stuff - everyone had confirmed receipt.

You, just like everybody else, have a serialized AccessPORT. There is no mistake - your unit was shipped.

I'm not going to simply hand you $700 dollars because you want to hold me over a barrel.

You paid.
I shipped your AP.
You received your tracking number immediately. (You didn't receive a "shipped" notice from Google because I do that manually and I wasn't using that feature back then.)
Then, months later - after I had already received your delivery confirmation and you received your AccessPORT - you destroyed your car and were suddenly needing money and figured you would scam me for the AP.

I don't have access to the old paper receipts for items I shipped last year and were received. After I get a confirmation that the item is delivered, I box that stuff up.
When my living situation changed at the beginning of the year, I destroyed most of last year's old paperwork.

You, just like everybody else, have a serialized AccessPORT. There is no mistake - your unit was shipped.

I'm not going to simply hand you $700 dollars because you want to hold me over a barrel.
But I never recieved one! You HAVE TO VERIFY you shipped it! You cannot just say I don't have the paperwork anymore!

You say you've sent it and I say I've never got one. So we have the same position. I can verify I paid but you can't verify you shipped it...think about it!

Which was the company you sent the APs with???

Case closed.

case closed.

^^nope

But I never recieved one! You HAVE TO VERIFY you shipped it!

I verified it - LAST YEAR.

Sure, it would be a good idea to protect myself against fraudulent customers such as yourself, but everyone that has received one of these units has enrolled in the Calibration Service and left a paper-trail a mile wide.
You were different. You and I had an open line of communication about "your" turbo kit for months. I trusted you. (Which is a whole other story - want to talk about the payment I never received for your turbo upgrade kit that you ordered? How many "I'm going to the bank today" was I supposed to endure before I accept that you weren't actually going to pay for it?)
At the time, I had no reason to believe you were going to try this on me. I was mistaken.

So, yes - I have no way to verify this transaction now, a year later.
But at that time, you received your unit, I verified it for you with the USPS tracking number and delivery confirmation and that was that.

Its a shame that you are going to hang me out here on a hook just to scam me out of $700, but I guess I am just going to have to endure that at this point.

I'm closing in on 500 units shipped. Every single "complaint" I've received so far - all 4 - has been either a customer error or a scammer such as yourself.

So, yes - I have no way to verify this transaction now, a year later.
But at that time, you received your unit, I verified it for you with the USPS tracking number and delivery confirmation and that was that.NO YOU DIDN'T! AGAIN! I've never recieved any tracking number from you. I have ask you several times by mail an in the AP thread!!! The turbo is another story, that's right. But we're talking about something I have paid for - th AP!

I did one mistake. After month without getting anything I wrote him I've wrecked my car (my car feels wonderful) and want the money because I thougt, ok, he never sent it (never got any tracking number from him) so he can just give me my money back and everthing will be ok.

Now, everyone here is thinking I'm not telling the truth, got my AP and just want my money back because I wrecked the car. Again, I've never wrecked it, I just wrote it hoping to get my money back this way because I NEVER got my AP.


After you lied, and admitted it, it's a stretch to believe you waited a year for an AP.

Your credibility is shot and you don't have a figurative leg to stand on.

AFAIK, MM has never ripped anyone off, and your case is so weak that, for me, that record stands unblemished.

Give it up, it's getting old....

I did one mistake. After month without getting anything I wrote him I've wrecked my car (my car feels wonderful) and want the money because I thougt, ok, he never sent it (never got any tracking number from him) so he can just give me my money back and everthing will be ok.

Wait! Whoa! My reading comprehension must really be going down the toilet.

You didn't wreck your car, Mo? You just said that in hopes of getting money out of me?

Holy crap. I didn't even catch that. Thanks, Stealth.

But it's not my problem you do your paperwork bad. I can still verify I paid after ONE YEAR:
You have to verify it was SHIPPED & RECIEVED.

I've explained why I wrote I've wrecked my car - I want to start this thread with all info.

But it's not my problem you do your paperwork bad. I can still verify I paid after ONE YEAR:
You have to verify it was SHIPPED & RECIEVED.

No, I don't think you are understanding this.

I don't "have to" verify anything. I'm telling you how it is gonna be.
The fact is, you waited too long to perpetrate this scam for you to have any real teeth.
And simply trying to make me "look bad" here on the forum is of little value. I'm already perceived as an asshole around here, anyway. Its part of my charm.

I'm still stunned that, in the midst of trying to further this scam, you admitted that your claim:
Hey Jeff,
please send the money back...I've had an accident this morning :(...I could cry all day long :(......................
was a lie!

No, I don't think you are understanding this.

I don't "have to" verify anything. I'm telling you how it is.
The fact is, you waited too long to perpetrate this scam for you to have any real teeth.

I'm still stunned that, in the midst of trying to further this scam, you admitted that your claim:
was a lie!
Nothing new, like I wrote in the first post of this thread that is was a lie! I went this way because I was hoping to get my money back this way because I've never recieved anything from you and thought you didn't sent it yet!
Yes you have to, because you have nothing that verifies you've ever shipped anything - I have!

OP: This is just silly. Even if you paid, and something went wrong on MM's side so he didn't send it (even though he's sure he did), you piss all over your case because you lied to him about a crash instead of just saying "If you haven't sent it yet I'd like to cancel my order". That's the stupidest action I've seen in a long time.

Yes you have to, because you have nothing that verifies you've ever shipped anything - I have!

No, I don't. Because you have no recourse. Possession is 9/10 of the law and you can't charge-back on me after 3 months past the original transaction date.
If you really wanted to perpetrate this properly, you would have done it immediately.
Of course, I would have still had the confirmation at that point, so it wouldn't have worked then, either.

So, this is all just an intellectual exercise.

This is the dumbest scam ever. I think the OP needs to move to Nigeria for awhile and see how the big boys do it.

No, I don't. Because you have no recourse. Possession is 9/10 of the law and you can't charge-back on me after 3 months past the original transaction date.
If you really wanted to perpetrate this properly, you would have done it immediately.
Of course, I would have still had the confirmation at that point, so it wouldn't have worked then, either.

So, this is all just an intellectual exercise.I did without any reaction from you:

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I know but it's different in my case...I paid for...

I know but it's different in my case...I paid for it last year and never got one and Jeff told me to check what happend...

Cheers,
Kazuma.



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Again, 3 weeks without any news...man, please...

Again, 3 weeks without any news...man, please tell me what was going on!


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Any news for me, Jeff?

Any news for me, Jeff?


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EU Another week without any news

Another week without any news


02-24-2009, 03:42 PM
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Can you tell me what happened with my AP????

Can you tell me what happened with my AP????


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Posted By Kazuma
EU Any news for me????

Any news for me????



02-18-2009, 02:41 PM
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Posted By Kazuma
EU ?????

?????



02-15-2009, 11:53 AM
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Posted By Kazuma
Any news???

Any news???


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Posted By Kazuma
EU That's right! So where is it? Can you check that?...

That's right! So where is it? Can you check that? Is it possible that you never shipped it but thougt you did?

Cheers,
Moe.



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EU Jeff, I've never got any unit!!! I'm waiting for...

Jeff, I've never got any unit!!! I'm waiting for since i've paid it...

Cheers,
Moe.




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A few weeks ago you told me, that you are waiting...

A few weeks ago you told me, that you are waiting for the Euro spec APs. Now you told me, it went out last year...I never got it...



Cheers,
Moe.


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EU Moritz Benner from Germany. How can I ask you...

Moritz Benner from Germany. How can I ask you some questions?

Moe.



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Hey Jeff, where is my AP?????

Hey Jeff,
where is my AP?????



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Any news???

Any news???


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Where's my AP Jeff??????????????????????????

Where's my AP Jeff??????????????????????????


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Posted By Kazuma
Paid both money requests (16.09. & 30.09.). After...

Paid both money requests (16.09. & 30.09.). After that I didn't recieve anything from you...Did I something wrong?

Please try pcmtech@tnc-import.com...


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I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from...

I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from you ...I have paid them both...



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Moritz Benner (moritzbenner @ aol . com)

Moritz Benner (moritzbenner @ aol . com)


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You still have my money...please send it back or...

You still have my money...please send it back or send me an EUDM AP for 06 FI!



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Hey Jeff, do you konw my shipping cost now???...

Hey Jeff,
do you konw my shipping cost now??? Want to send you money ...

Cheers,
Moe.

I think everyone is being kinda hard on the OP without reading the entire thread. Looks to me like he has tried to stay in contact and has had vague response. Makes sense to me that if he wrecked his car and no longer needed it shipped to him that he would just ask for the money back instead.

Again, I've never wrecked it, I just wrote it hoping to get my money back this way

.....without reading the entire thread?

S

Has there been any consideration to the idea that (other than the OP's original lie of wrecking), both sides might be telling the truth? Lost in shipment, stolen off the front porch, accidental typo in the address, etc...

Unlikely, but possible, especially considering the distance and change of countries, etc...

Has there been any consideration to the idea that (other than the OP's original lie of wrecking), both sides might be telling the truth? Lost in shipment, stolen off the front porch, accidental typo in the address, etc...

Unlikely, but possible, especially considering the distance and change of countries, etc...THX. That's what I've tried to say. Perhaps with the wrong words but my english isn't the best! Why should I ask for the tracking number to provide it here in this thread or some time ago in the other one where everybody can check it if I know I recieved the AP. This makes no sence!
I just want to work out what happened to find a solution. If it was shipped it has to be somewhere. All I can say is that I never got my AP...Perhaps Jeff can speak with UPS or something like this...

Lost in shipment, stolen off the front porch, accidental typo in the address, etc...


not really possible since you have to pay customs duty (unless it was send as a low value gift or something)

here's an example of usps monitoring service of a package sent to EU:

Detailed Results:

Delivered Abroad, August 18, 2009, 11:50 am, POLAND
Attempted Delivery Abroad, August 17, 2009, 6:30 pm, POLAND
Into Foreign Customs, August 10, 2009, 4:18 pm, POLAND
Arrived Abroad, August 10, 2009, 1:35 pm, POLAND
International Dispatch, August 07, 2009, 5:38 pm, ISC SAN FRANCISCO (USPS)
Arrival
Electronic Shipping Info Received, August 06, 2009
Processed through Sort Facility, August 06, 2009, 7:24 pm, WEST SACRAMENTO, CA 95799

I'm not defending either side. Just trying to note that if the package was shipped, and was delivered to his doorstep while he was at work, and someone stole it from his porch (or a delivery driver stole it, or the truck crashed in the river and was swept away, address had a typo but was still valid like a different number on the same street, etc...), then MM would be 100% truthful in saying he shipped it, and the OP would be 100% truthful in saying he never received it.

I admit is isn't common, but certainly possible. It's happened to me, and one of the constant headaches I deal with at work involves situations just like this. The financial responsibility would still be on the OP, not on MM, and the OP still heavily damaged his reputation by lying about the wreck, but both parties could be telling the truth. That email chain could be faked up of course, but each side certainly is putting forth a fair amount of work backing up their stories, so...just saying.

I'm not defending either side. Just trying to note that if the package was shipped, and was delivered to his doorstep while he was at work, and someone stole it from his porch (or a delivery driver stole it, or the truck crashed in the river and was swept away, address had a typo but was still valid like a different number on the same street, etc...), then MM would be 100% truthful in saying he shipped it, and the OP would be 100% truthful in saying he never received it.
I'd say in either case, if the recipient didn't sign for it, the responsibility would lie with the shipping company in this case.

No matter the case, I think these threads have gone far enough. A year after the fact is not the time to argue it.

MM says that he only got rid of old paperwork from _confirmed_ shipped items though, or that's what I understood.

They might both be telling the truth, but lies doesn't help. And I remember Kazuma asking in the other thread, but that's from March 2009, I think I'd ask a bit sooner if I ordered an AP in September.

dude mm is a standup guy, lately there have been alot of buyers trying to be smart asses with not just mm but other forum vendor's, and with each other its sad to see all this bullshit

i agree it took a long time for a claim.but i dont understand why mm didnt send the shipping confirmation number when the op start asking for it. next time buy from another seller like fluid = good service for what i read.

The fact is that i can vouch in, in that regard, for dozens of italians that rely on his tuning service and sale program.
Problems do happen, let's make it clear, but Jeff managed to solve serious issues here even with his usual long waits.
We often forget individual cases and try to make a general conclusion from bad situations imho.
I don't know who is to blame here and i sincerely don't care.

i agree it took a long time for a claim.but i dont understand why mm didnt send the shipping confirmation number when the op start asking for it.

Because I sent it MONTHS before.


next time buy from another seller like fluid = good service for what i read.

lol

Because I sent it MONTHS before.l
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I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from...

I received nothing ...no AP and no emails from you ...I have paid them both...
I've asked you several times..look at the date...no months before I asked what happened...

next time buy from another seller like fluid = good service for what i read.

From MM's website:

MazdaManiac customers that purchase the Cobb AccessPORT receive application-specific calibrations through the Custom Calibration Service® that are customized for your vehicles modifications at no additional charge.
A $299.00 value

That's why everyone buys it from him

I've asked you several times..look at the date...no months before I asked what happened...

IMO, contacting a vendor on a website, in a thread is not contacting them and should not even be counted!

If this were my issue I would have brought it up until I actually received my AP. I would not have asked, initially, posted a bunch of times in a thread, forgot about it for months and then bring it back up again.

If I paid for a 700 dollar mod and issues arose, I would have been in constant contact (through an email/ phone) until it was resolved.

IMO, contacting a vendor on a website, in a thread is not contacting them and should not even be counted!

If this were my issue I would have brought it up until I actually received my AP. I would not have asked, initially, posted a bunch of times in a thread, forgot about it for months and then bring it back up again.

If I paid for a 700 dollar mod and issues arose, I would have been in constant contact (through an email/ phone) until it was resolved.I've also wrote emails. I didn't call him because my english isn't good enough for a conversation:(!

next time buy from another seller like fluid = good service for what i read.

Do you know of anyone running Fluid's tune and is satisfied with it?
I haven't seen many post about his tunes.

One way to solve this problem. MM should have paperwork on sending kazuma his cobb ap. I believe that MM would not screw anyone out of there money. Maybe the package got lost in the mail and or someone stole the package.

I have trouble believing that there are members out there that actually believe the OP. He admits to a scam on another part, admits that he lied and now wants you to believe he was wronged. Now there are members out there that will not read to whole thread and will think that MM is a "Bad Guy" and then by association any that are his friends. Save me from this stupidity

i would vouch for MM, though i'm not his fan or anything. i actually have met MM in person during dyno day session here around bay area, cali. he seemed genuinely nice and professional. therefore, i don't think MM would scam anybody. if there was any delay on his shipment whatsoever, i think he either forgot or got caught up with his reality job.

One way to solve this problem. MM should have paperwork on sending kazuma his cobb ap. I believe that MM would not screw anyone out of there money. Maybe the package got lost in the mail and or someone stole the package.Exactly for both! But I think he don't have one anymore!

I have trouble believing that there are members out there that actually believe the OP. He admits to a scam on another part, admits that he lied and now wants you to believe he was wronged. Now there are members out there that will not read to whole thread and will think that MM is a "Bad Guy" and then by association any that are his friends. Save me from this stupidityWhy should I ask for a tracking number (did so a few times before MM told me he has no paperwork anymore) which I want to be provided here in this thread if I'm lying and got the AP? Anyone could see this - doesn't make any sence!

I just want to work out what happened with the AP. I lied one time like I said from the beginning in this thread. That was one big mistake, I know. MM says I lied one more time because I got the AP but he cannot verify that because there is no paperwork!

Lol, this thread has so many funny quotes. I just wanted to say thanks for the laughs. Especially Stealth with the huge acronym "AFAIK". :mdrmed:

Exactly for both! But I think he don't have one anymore!

Why should I ask for a tracking number (did so a few times before MM told me he has no paperwork anymore) which I want to be provided here in this thread if I'm lying and got the AP? Anyone could see this - doesn't make any sence!

I just want to work out what happened with the AP. I lied one time like I said from the beginning in this thread. That was one big mistake, I know. MM says I lied one more time because I got the AP but he cannot verify that because there is no paperwork!

Kazuma = fail. He has been lying since last year. "Wrecked my car want my money back" was the email he sent and "did not remember" he wrote. Kazuma, do you have any emails saved? How about the email that you stated you wrecked your car? I'm betting you don't. You are trying to force these individuals to prove something that happened months ago while you do nothing but damper the investigation with more lies and hostility. You conveniently forget that you wrote or said something when it makes you look bad or hurts your case. The only thing that is happening in this thread is that BHR Members and Jeff made statements, you denied them, they prove them, and you "remember". I realy hope Jeff can find the tracking number that says it was shipped to your address so you can take this argument to the shipping company and leave these people alone.

To everyone that is telling BHR and Jeff how to run their company: If you dont like they way they run their business, then do not buy from them. There are too many satisfied customers to deal with a handful of fucktards. If you dont like bestbuy, staples or any other business because you do not agree with their service, prices, or quality, do you still go to them? Most likely not. Why sould this be any different. I would much rather get a good quality product and sacrifice a little customer service(due to being busy or what have you shit happens) then get a crappy product with great customer service. Then again, with the members on this site, maybe the second part of my last statement is true. Just look at all of the "OMG $600 turbo on ebay" threads

Jeff: If you havent done this already, make a special folder in your email for kazuma and save ALL emails to and from him. I have a feeling you may need them later on.

these are not my thoughts, but it is a good idea of the past. for the new that are looking at this.

beers :beer:

This is pointless.. You guys both managed to go 3 pages without proving anything =)
I will pick the vendor in this situation though... I changed my mind, you shouldn't have lied in the first place. For all we know you got the parts on your car right now lol. I don't think he would be a vendor if this happened.

dude cant you just ask for a trace from the shipping company?
OD

dude cant you just ask for a trace from the shipping company?
ODMM, please do this!

i'm already perceived as an asshole around here, anyway. Its part of my charm.

.... :)

To everyone that is telling BHR and Jeff how to run their company:.........

I would much rather get a good quality product and sacrifice a little customer service(due to being busy or what have you shit happens) then get a crappy product with great customer service.........

I don't see this happening this time, in this thread, but I do appreciate the thought, swoope.

Good thing BHR doesn't typically cause such a compromise to be made, eh? ;)

I am pretty sure all of us at BHR have proven that waiting= NO compromise. :)

I don't see this happening this time, in this thread, but I do appreciate the thought, swoope.

Good thing BHR doesn't typically cause such a compromise to be made, eh? ;)

I am pretty sure all of us at BHR have proven that waiting= NO compromise. :)

Amen to both
People should also notice how BHR and MM are not the same entity. We all know that Jeff doesn't have the best customer service around (yet he offers the best service) while BHR usually has better customer relationships.
Now Charles prove what i wrote and reply to my mail :rofl:

People should also notice how BHR and MM are not the same entity.

No, we are teammates but Jeff handles the administration of his AccessPort customers separately because that, ALONE, is a handful of work. We all work together to further BHR's progress but there are some things that MUST be handled in such a manner due to their complexity.

I hate how you always put things better than i do.
:)

:lol:

I wasnt talking about MM putting a trace on it man--i was thinking you could do this--you dont need a shipping number to do it.
OD

lol.

Good luck with this.


Im not taking either side... but just give Kazuma the tracking number to see who's fault it was. If you sent to him (Which you said you did), why can't you send to him again. Scam or no scam, atleast give it to the guy so that this issue gets resolved and he can get (or return if that's even possible) the AP which he said he paid for.

but just give Kazuma the tracking number to see who's fault it was. If you sent to him (Which you said you did), why can't you send to him again.

Because, as I stated already, I don't have it any more.
I sent the number, we got the confirmation and that was the end of that. Last year.
I don't have the data any more because it was confirmed as received.

Since then, I've started to let Google track the shipping - just for crooks like Mo.

damn kazuma fails he should just not show his face i hate dishonest people, mazdamaniac ftw

Because, as I stated already, I don't have it any more.
I sent the number, we got the confirmation and that was the end of that. Last year.
I don't have the data any more because it was confirmed as received.

Since then, I've started to let Google track the shipping - just for crooks like Mo.


Oh sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought you just didn't have the paper that said you sold it to him bla bla bla shipped it bla bla bla.

Ok My bad.

For once you are nice :D

Everyone here says "Kazuma fails" or "dumbest scam ever" but I didn't wrote I want the money back or something like that in this thread. I just wrote I want to find out what was going on. Something went wrong and I want to know what and where it was.

I paid, MM shipped but I got nothing. So there must be a problem on the way from UPS to me and this is what I want to find out. I've lied one time and that wasn't nice but that doesn't change the facts that I never recieved an AP!

Everyone here says "Kazuma fails" or "dumbest scam ever" but I didn't wrote I want the money back or something like that in this thread. I just wrote I want to find out what was going on. Something went wrong and I want to know what and where it was.

I paid, MM shipped but I got nothing. So there must be a problem on the way from UPS to me and this is what I want to find out. I've lied one time and that wasn't nice but that doesn't change the facts that I never recieved an AP!
So why did you lie? Did you say you crashed your car when you were trying to get out of the turbo purchase? No one is going to believe you after that first lie was exposed in the earlier thread.

So why did you lie? Did you say you crashed your car when you were trying to get out of the turbo purchase? No one is going to believe you after that first lie was exposed in the earlier thread.As I wrote a few times in this thread: I was thinking MM never sent my AP and he didn't answered my emails or posts here in this forum when I asked him about the status. I've wrote I wrecked my car because I never got a tracking number or my AP and so I was thinking he hadn't shipped it yet. But he didn't answer my quetions I've sent him per mail or per post in the forum. After weeks without an answer from MM I wrote him I've wrecked my car because I thought it would be a chance to get my money back for an AP I'ver never recieved which I thougt wasn't sent yet!

MM, please tell me which company you've used for shipping th AP!

I've wrote I wrecked my car because I never got a tracking number or my AP and so I was thinking he hadn't shipped it yet. That makes no sense. It doesn't really explain why you would lie? Supposedly MM would allow you to cancel your order under those circumstances but not otherwise. He supposedly wouldn't respond to your emails while you still had your car but all of a sudden he will when you wreck your car? Must be a part of MM's Cash for Clunkers program that I haven't heard of yet. In the absence of a real explanation, others will trust their own suspicions over your silly explanations.

And after your lie was exposed, why should anyone believe you now?

Where are you from, BTW? Does this kind of 'logic' work better in some other language or culture?

I've just talked to UPS and USPS. MM wrote USPS
UPS told me, there wasn't any package for me since june 2008. So I've talked to USPS and they told me, they can't give me that info because I'm the adressee - the tracking number is needed. They also told me only the sender can re-purchase that number within 12-16 months.

So MM, please go to USPS and let them give you the tracking number again. Then I can talk to USPS with the tracking number in my hands and they can tell me what went wrong.

Where are you from, BTW? Does this kind of 'logic' work better in some other language or culture?I just noticed your from Germany. Why not try your explanation in German, both MM and I speak German. Maybe it will make more sense in your native language. And if not, at least we can brush up our German skills.

Yeah. You could do that..

I just noticed your from Germany. Why not try your explanation in German, both MM and I speak German. Maybe it will make more sense in your native language. And if not, at least we can brush up our German skills.

I don't think it makes sense in German, or Klingon either for that matter :yumyum:

OP: How do we expect vendors to act reasonably if we go around lying about wrecked cars instead of saying things like they are? If anything you got a good lesson I'd say.

I don't think it makes sense in German, or Klingon either for that matter :yumyum:

OP: How do we expect vendors to act reasonably if we go around lying about wrecked cars instead of saying things like they are? If anything you got a good lesson I'd say.

His (written) English seems pretty damn good to me. I don't think that could be the cause of any confusion.

I say contact the company who shipped it and get the information from them. If they can show they have the tracking info then drop it, if not then someone's got some explaining to do.

Who gives a fawk, close this thread.

I have already admitted my mistake and accepted responsibility for the lie. Who of you can guarantee me that he hasn't also lied to me, maybe even more than once, during this whole story between us? Who of you guy's can tell me that he hasn't also lied to other customers who have bought something from him?

He is a great guy and invaluable vendor on this forum but he isn't perfect. I'm not, too, but at least I have admitted my mistake.

Mo -

This is very simple. I DO NOT HAVE THE TRACKING DATA ANY MORE.
I send ALL foreign shipments via USPS. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE TRACKING DATA ANY MORE.
How many more times and in how many more ways do I need to say this?
Die Tracking-Daten nicht mehr existiert. Niemand kann es zu reproduzieren. Es ist weg.

Once I got a confirmation that you received the unit, I got rid of the shipping paperwork. This was a mistake - I didn't think you were gonna try to do this to me.
These days, I keep everything and trust no one.

Who gives a fawk, close this thread.

Agreed go away liar.....:smoker:

Mo -

This is very simple. I DO NOT HAVE THE TRACKING DATA ANY MORE.
I send ALL foreign shipments via USPS. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE TRACKING DATA ANY MORE.
How many more times and in how many more ways do I need to say this?
Die Tracking-Daten nicht mehr existiert. Niemand kann es zu reproduzieren. Es ist weg.

Once I got a confirmation that you received the unit, I got rid of the shipping paperwork. This was a mistake - I didn't think you were gonna try to do this to me.
These days, I keep everything and trust no one.I understand what you're saying but USPS told me something different. You can go there and they are able to give you the information I need. You have to say who you are and where the package was shipped to and then they'll give you the tracking number again. That is not what I say, it's what USPS told me!

I understand what you're saying but USPS told me something different. You can go there and they are able to give you the information I need. You have to say who you are and where the package was shipped to and then they'll give you the tracking number again. That is not what I say, it's what USPS told me!

Dude give it up already... Sheeshh... you could have made back your money working somewhere with the amount of time you are putting into this scam after waiting a damn year... What are you going to do? fly over here and kick MM's a$$????

:spank:

Dude give it up already... Sheeshh... you could have made back your money working somewhere with the amount of time you are putting into this scam after waiting a damn year... What are you going to do?fly over here and get your ass kicked by MM????

:spank:

Fixed..

man im glad something like this hasnt happened to me. I hate complications. My AP purchase went nicce and smooth. The only thing was shipping took a little longer about a (WEEK and a half or so) but whos gonna die cause they dont have a cobb ap? heh but you shouldnt have lied. I can understand both or your views. Sometime we as human lie to get out of a situation, and in recent times i just call it the AMERICAN way =D

Hope this gets resolved.

lol nicely put.

The fact that dude lied about his car is irrelevant. He wanted his money back and he is entitled to it IF he did not receive the product. I honestly cant believe you waited a year to AGRESSIVELY press the matter but thats on you. The condition of his car whether its at the bottom of a lake or in his garage really has no basis as to him getting a refund if the product did not meet his satisfaction or did not receive it. Im not taking sides just pointing out that although yes he put his integrity in question the issue here is: customer paid. Seller shipped. customer did not receive product. Goodluck to both of you and hope you can solve the problem.

Mo -
Once I got a confirmation that you received the unit, I got rid of the shipping paperwork.

Good point, except it sounds like someone received it.

lets settle this in a ring at sevenstock then my money is on mm beating kazumas ass any takers

I understand what you're saying but USPS told me something different. You can go there and they are able to give you the information I need. You have to say who you are and where the package was shipped to and then they'll give you the tracking number again. That is not what I say, it's what USPS told me!

wondering which branch of the united states postal service you got that info from?

maybe the address, or a phone #.

wondering.

chow

wondering which branch of the united states postal service you got that info from?

Kinda wondering that myself, considering that it is the United States Postal Service and Kazuma is in Germany.

In any event, no - they do not have that ability. I can't just tell them where I mailed something from and to and have them reproduce the shipping info. That just isn't part of the record.
All USPS shipping data shows is the number, the delivery status and how to link to the original documents (something only a USPS employee can do).
Without that number, none of that information is accessible.

It would be like going into a store and asking the clerk to tell you what you purchased on a particular date last year by just telling her you paid with a $10 bill.


The only thing was shipping took a little longer about a (WEEK and a half or so)

A week and a half?
The shipping agreement says 11 business days! You got your AccessPORT early!

sucks to see something like this going on. I got my ap from Jeff pretty fast also like 05rx8mazda (probably since i live down the street from his old place lol) (az to tx doesn't take long)

Honestly.. if you have not received the product after 1 month you should have called your credit card company to dispute the transaction.

As far as I know USPS delivery confirmation is worthless for international shipments. The delivery is confirmed once it arrives in Germany. After which, German postal service is responsible for delivering the package.

So.. this is all a mute point now since it has been so long, I suggest the next time you buy from a vendor in the US you request insured UPS or FedEx delivery.

As far as I know USPS delivery confirmation is worthless for international shipments. The delivery is confirmed once it arrives in Germany. After which, German postal service is responsible for delivering the package.

Correct. However, the SAME tracking number can then be used in the recipient's country to continue tracking the product.

I do this all the time with US -> Canada shipments. I have to track it at usps.com until it reaches Canada, then I can track it at canadapost.ca.

Just some useful information in case other int'l people want to track their packages :)

A week and a half?
The shipping agreement says 11 business days! You got your AccessPORT early![/QUOTE]

I was comparing myself to the guy. I am a very patient person when it comes to my car. also other items take a couple of days to recieve if they arent on back order.

Not lashing out against ya Jeff

Honestly.. if you have not received the product after 1 month you should have called your credit card company to dispute the transaction.

As far as I know USPS delivery confirmation is worthless for international shipments. The delivery is confirmed once it arrives in Germany. After which, German postal service is responsible for delivering the package.

So.. this is all a mute point now since it has been so long, I suggest the next time you buy from a vendor in the US you request insured UPS or FedEx delivery.

hmm... I could track mine via USPS till my doorstep:
Detailed Results:

Delivered Abroad, August 18, 2009, 11:50 am, POLAND
Attempted Delivery Abroad, August 17, 2009, 6:30 pm, POLAND
Into Foreign Customs, August 10, 2009, 4:18 pm, POLAND
Arrived Abroad, August 10, 2009, 1:35 pm, POLAND
International Dispatch, August 07, 2009, 5:38 pm, ISC SAN FRANCISCO (USPS)
Arrival
Electronic Shipping Info Received, August 06, 2009
Processed through Sort Facility, August 06, 2009, 7:24 pm, WEST SACRAMENTO, CA 95799

hmm... I could track mine via USPS till my doorstep:
You are most likely correct but MM shipped it over a year ago and then was informed that delivery had taken place. He threw away the douments showing the delivery after a year (or close to a year). Do you keep receipts that long?

I think we need at least 1000 more members to repeat the same tired arguments over and over again before closing this inane thread

Honestly.. if you have not received the product after 1 month you should have called your credit card company to dispute the transaction.

No. That just costs everyone money - especially since I could have proven to the CC that it was delivered.
The proper course of action would have been to contact me.


As far as I know USPS delivery confirmation is worthless for international shipments. The delivery is confirmed once it arrives in Germany. After which, German postal service is responsible for delivering the package.

The tracking is good all the way to the recipient's doorstep.


You are most likely correct but MM shipped it over a year ago and then was informed that delivery had taken place. He threw away the douments showing the delivery after a year (or close to a year). Do you keep receipts that long?

I do now!

I think we need at least 1000 more members to repeat the same tired arguments over and over again before closing this inane thread

I agree.
There is no such thing as bad publicity.

The proper course of action would have been to contact meI did as you can see on page 2 of this thread.

It would be like going into a store and asking the clerk to tell you what you purchased on a particular date last year by just telling her you paid with a $10 bill.Not really. You know who you are and where you live, you know who I am and where I live and you know when you approximately shipped my AP. Now the employee can give you the tracking number again. You don't need any number or something, just your name and your address + my name and my address + the approximately shipping date.

Again, this is was USPS told me!

Again, this is was USPS told me!

First of all, no - it doesn't work like that. I wish it did. Then I could get you to stop with this nonsense.

Second, how could you know this, even if it were possible? You just walked into the USPS branch in Germany?

In any event, this is over. I'm done commenting on it.
Have fun.

First of all, no - it doesn't work like that. I wish it did. Then I could get you to stop with this nonsense.

Second, how could you know this, even if it were possible? You just walked into the USPS branch in Germany?

In any event, this is over. I'm done commenting on it.
Have fun.
I've talked to DHL which is the german partner of USPS and a friend of mine talked directly to USPS in the states because his spoken english is a lot better.

Delivered to who? In germany we don't get packages from other countries directly. Packages have to go through the customs and we have to collect them there.

You're just writing I should have contacted you. I did that the past year but you've never react in any kind. Now you say you're over and I should have fun - NICE!

Again, this is was USPS told me!

unless you are on post. you lost all your remaining chance of credibility..

if you are on post. well you have bigger issues other than this post.. you know how the people that own the usps deal with with military fraud?

just wondering..

i think you should post off and write your congressperson. you last hope..

or if you are legit start fighting with your local delivery.

good luck my friend.

beers :beer:

I've talked to DHL which is the german partner of USPS and a friend of mine talked directly to USPS in the states because his spoken english is a lot better.

Delivered to who? In germany we don't get packages from other countries directly. Packages have to go through the customs and we have to collect them there.

You're just writing I should have contacted you. I did that the past year but you've never react in any kind. Now you say you're over and I should have fun - NICE!

really,

you say dhl delivers the usps packages in germany..

ok.

so it goes to customs to dhl to you?

this is just to stupid.. so what is you address? i will mail you a letter.. and tell me how it gets there.

maybe dhl saw the wrecked car, decided you did not need it and sold it. ya thats the ticket..

beers :beer:

really,

you say dhl delivers the usps packages in germany..

ok.

so it goes to customs to dhl to you?

this is just to stupid.. so what is you address? i will mail you a letter.. and tell me how it gets there.

maybe dhl saw the wrecked car, decided you did not need it and sold it. ya thats the ticket..

beers :beer:
No. Packages over a calculated price go to the customs. Then you get a letter with a confirmation. You have to collect them from the customs yourself! Except UPS, they pay the bills for you and you get an invoice with the package!
So the way is USPS --> Germany --> DHL --> Customs OR USPS --> Airport --> DHL --> Germany (Customs)

No. Packages go to the customs. Then I get a letter with a confirmation. I have to collect them from the customs myself!

and dhl has what to do with this?

are you saying usps ships stuff to germany, then dhl get its. then you are notified that dhl got it.

then you have to come and get it?

i really am done with this. i am baffled by stupid.

might i suggest reading the owners manual.. really. i have friends that i put stuff in the usps mail. and it just shows up at the house.. takes a while. but it happens..

and i have friends in new zeland that will vouch for the same thing with them..

beers :beer:

and dhl has what to do with this?

are you saying usps ships stuff to germany, then dhl get its. then you are notified that dhl got it.

then you have to come and get it?

i really am done with this. i am baffled by stupid.

might i suggest reading the owners manual.. really. i have friends that i put stuff in the usps mail. and it just shows up at the house.. takes a while. but it happens..

and i have friends in new zeland that will vouch for the same thing with them..

beers :beer:
I'm not in NZ. In Germany that's the way it goes - that's a fact! We have to pay customs (3-4%) and bills (19%)!

I'm not in NZ. In Germany that's the way it goes - that's the fact!

yep,

but it works the same..

and you needed a guy to help you with the english. shit. yours is better than mine. and i am a native caucasian not that there is anything wrong with that..

and you can make up all the facts you want.. i have time.

i am going to talk about kamispeeds failure as a vendor on this site. i sent kamispeed a pm. dhl sent it to customs.. kamispeed did not get the notices. but still they suck..

but they suck and dont know it. is that customs fault or the usps.. and btw? how does UPS fit into this..


beers :beer:

yep,

but it works the same..

and you needed a guy to help you with the english. shit. yours is better than mine. and i am a native caucasian not that there is anything wrong with that..

and you can make up all the facts you want.. i have time.

i am going to talk about kamispeeds failure as a vendor on this site. i sent kamispeed a pm. dhl sent it to customs.. kamispeed did not get the notices. but still they suck..

but they suck and dont know it. is that customs fault or the usps.. and btw? how does UPS fit into this..


beers :beer:
We have to pay customs (3-4%) and bills (19%)!
This is why I want a number from MM I can work with. He shipped but I didn't get it, so it has to be somewhere. If the customs didn't send me the confirmation I didn't get the AP like I say the whole time.
THX but to write english isn't the same as speaking with a guy!

We have to pay customs (3-4%) and bills (19%)!
This is why I want a number from MM I can work with. He shipped but I didn't get it, so it has to be somewhere. If the customs didn't send me the confirmation I didn't get the AP like I say the whole time.
THX but to write english isn't the same as speaking with a guy!

so those bastards at customs have your ap.. and sold it because you wrecked your car!!!!

maybe the police and the false car wreck claim should start the ball rolling..

beers :beer:

so those bastards at customs have your ap.. and sold it because you wrecked your car!!!!

maybe the police and the false car wreck claim should start the ball rolling..

beers :beer:I just wrote you the way it goes here in Germany. And you know I never wrecked my car because this was a lie but I won't argue that anymore.
I don't have any time to be teased by you. That doesn't help me in any kind!
I've just gave you and everyone else the facts...

Kazuma,
Since this is being buried in nonsense why don't you simply ask usps to give you the tracking number? It is true that Jeff could investigate on that matter but you could easily contact them and do the same.
http://faq.usps.com/eCustomer/iq/usps/request.do?session={adbae880-9865-11de-64c1-000000000000}&event=1&view()=c{ae25a040-5511-11de-45b0-000000000000}&objectId=&eksObjectId=&objectType=Case&isJumpEnabled=false&isContentJumpEnabled=false&vendorKey=&objTitle=&versionId=2421&searchProperties=undefined&naturalAdvance=false&allStr=&phraseStr=&anyStr=&noneStr=&keywordStr=&tTitle=Receiving%20Mail&topicFromSub=&topicsORSubUrl=&report(0000)=p{409592d0-6974-11dd-e6c4-000000000000}&bcobjectId={409592d0-6974-11dd-e6c4-000000000000}&search=&topicAndSubtopic=Customer%20Service$ALL
This could help you a bit.

I'm not saying it is your or jeff's fault but since you were able to call DHL etc i'm sure you will be able to ask USPS to help you!

Kazuma,
Since this is being buried in nonsense why don't you simply ask usps to give you the tracking number? It is true that Jeff could investigate on that matter but you could easily contact them and do the same.
http://faq.usps.com/eCustomer/iq/usps/request.do?session={adbae880-9865-11de-64c1-000000000000}&event=1&view()=c{ae25a040-5511-11de-45b0-000000000000}&objectId=&eksObjectId=&objectType=Case&isJumpEnabled=false&isContentJumpEnabled=false&vendorKey=&objTitle=&versionId=2421&searchProperties=undefined&naturalAdvance=false&allStr=&phraseStr=&anyStr=&noneStr=&keywordStr=&tTitle=Receiving%20Mail&topicFromSub=&topicsORSubUrl=&report(0000)=p{409592d0-6974-11dd-e6c4-000000000000}&bcobjectId={409592d0-6974-11dd-e6c4-000000000000}&search=&topicAndSubtopic=Customer%20Service$ALL
This could help you a bit.

I'm not saying it is your or jeff's fault but since you were able to call DHL etc i'm sure you will be able to ask USPS to help you!THX man! DHL & USPS told me only the sender could get the tracking number without any number or something like that.

@MM

It would be 1 year.. but MM stated he used Delivery Confirmation.. not Signature Confirmation.. so it's only 6 months.

I'm pretty sure DHL declare their own customs fees and bill you for those on their own, so it doesn't go to some other customs depot, at least they do in Norway, and as it's a German company I doubt they'd make it stupider there.

I just wrote you the way it goes here in Germany. And you know I never wrecked my car because this was a lie but I won't argue that anymore.
I don't have any time to be teased by you. That doesn't help me in any kind!
I've just gave you and everyone else the facts...

i am not teasing you. i a just wasting your time as you have wasted everyones time here.

kinda. it is a bit entertaining.. fun to see you change the story.. but stay on point..

i gots some time.. well sometimes.. that was funny..

need a turbo.. they got one in korea! same game you are playing, difference is well you got it. and dont get double the money..

now the best you can do is correct my grammar, and call me a post whore. but good luck with that..

so whats the weather like in, what part of germany are you in?

beers :beer:

Swoope i have lost all respect for you
MM you are lying through your teeth.

Swoope i have lost all respect for you
MM you are lying through your teeth.
Strange - Poster, do you have first hand knowledge??? If you do then post it but if not then I would be careful how you address others.

Swoope i have lost all respect for you
MM you are lying through your teeth.

^ Seems pretty credible for someone with 15 posts and no evidence. Let's believe him.

Popcorn is getting stale but the show keeps going. Do I get free refills with that?

I love how nobody is acknowledging the fact that he scammed MM previously on a turbo upgrade...oh well...this wont stop me from getting my AP from MM when I get some walking around money

I love how nobody is acknowledging the fact that he scammed MM previously on a turbo upgrade...oh well...this wont stop me from getting my AP from MM when I get some walking around money

Now, hold on - he didn't totally scam me on the turbo.
He ordered one, we went back and forth, over and over again about options. He sent paperwork that said he had initiated a bank transfer, so I started building his kit and ordered his parts.
The bank transfer never came and he kept saying he would fix it.
After a few months, I gave up and sold his kit to someone else.

Now, hold on - he didn't totally scam me on the turbo.
He ordered one, we went back and forth, over and over again about options. He sent paperwork that said he had initiated a bank transfer, so I started building his kit and ordered his parts.
The bank transfer never came and he kept saying he would fix it.
After a few months, I gave up and sold his kit to someone else.


now back to work on mine :whipping::whipping: lol

i wish i was an oscar myer weaner
thats the only thing i wish to be-e-e
if i was an oscar meyer weiner!!!
everyone could take a bite of meeeeee!


I dont know why I posted this?

Thank you very much
OD

Denny: Get back to work on your car...you're getting a bit squirrelly ;)

this thread is still open?

Look, I could give a rat's ass who is right here and who is wrong but continuing this conversation is pointless.

Your statue of limitations has long expired.
You cannot make a financial claim via your bank, paypal, or credit card.
Game over, move on.

this thread is still open?

Look, I could give a rat's ass who is right here and who is wrong but continuing this conversation is pointless.

Your statue of limitations has long expired.
You cannot make a financial claim via your bank, paypal, or credit card.
Game over, move on.Who is talking about money? I want to find out what happened with my AP!

after reading every single post i came to the conclusion that:

KAZUMA just screw himself over and over because he order a turbo kit and the AP before he did all his homework, so after realizing he is financially broke he tryied to get out with the Turbo kit(succesfully) and somehow something went wrong with the AP shipping.

MM he is a guy which is very respectful around here from everyone. after what you did to him he still tried to find what went wrong with the shipping, but he can't do anything about it because shipping was 1 year ago(i was going to go crazy after 2 weeks).

the last thing i will advise you to do is to go and check with customs if they have it and stop asking "I want to find out what happened with my AP" over and over and over and over...

Now, hold on - he didn't totally scam me on the turbo.
He ordered one, we went back and forth, over and over again about options. He sent paperwork that said he had initiated a bank transfer, so I started building his kit and ordered his parts.
The bank transfer never came and he kept saying he would fix it.
After a few months, I gave up and sold his kit to someone else.
Ah, ok. Misunderstood that...thought he had not paid for a part recieved. Either way, def on your side of this one.

i wish i was an oscar myer weaner
thats the only thing i wish to be-e-e
if i was an oscar meyer weiner!!!
everyone could take a bite of meeeeee!


I dont know why I posted this?

Thank you very much
OD

Elvis has left the building!

this type of thing is getting so old.

MM i suggest you demand names, pictures, and social security numbers of at least 3 loved ones from all potential buyers.

Swoope i have lost all respect for you
MM you are lying through your teeth.

thats going to hurt..

hope he makes it..

chow

Now, hold on - he didn't totally scam me on the turbo.
He ordered one, we went back and forth, over and over again about options. He sent paperwork that said he had initiated a bank transfer, so I started building his kit and ordered his parts.
The bank transfer never came and he kept saying he would fix it.
After a few months, I gave up and sold his kit to someone else.

same guy???

or is this the story of the keora turbo..

beers :beer:

So did you get your AP yet?

this thread is still open?

Look, I could give a rat's ass who is right here and who is wrong but continuing this conversation is pointless.

Your statue of limitations has long expired.
You cannot make a financial claim via your bank, paypal, or credit card.
Game over, move on.

http://www.legalgrind.com/site_img/statute-of-limitations.jpg


hehe

this is smelling veryyyyyyy fishy..........

this is smelling veryyyyyyy fishy..........

YOU are smelling very fishy! :fart: lol

I have to say that I missed this entire thread until just now, when "Bad Guy" and "Mazdamaniac" showed up in the title. I clicked on it, thinking.. now waitaminute, there must be a mistake.. I've never bought anything from MM but this forum is like a huge clusterfck of people who have done great business with BHR and MM.

And then I started to read this thread, and it has kept me entertained for a good half hour. It reads exactly like a 419 scam from Nigeria, especially with the fake initiated bank transfer on the turbo. I think it's pretty clear here that "obvious scam is obvious."

Times like this make you wish you had just hung on to that last slip of paper, but it's worth knowing that credibility goes a long way. When someone with hundreds of successful transactions goes up against someone with one, maybe two failed transactions and a history of lies in a battle of credibility, the victor is obvious.

Without documented proof, KAZUMA has no foot to stand on.

And as anyone who has had a child (or was one) knows, it reads like a child caught in a lie. At first, they lie to get their way. When they're caught, they say "oh oh, I was just lieing to get my way, but you can trust me now!" And then they go endlessly in circles trying to take attention away from the fact that they're a boldfaced liar and try to change the topic to "Oh I don't know what happened, I'm just trying to figure out what happened!"

YOU are smelling very fishy! :fart: lol


salmon or trout? lol i was agreeing with you and saying he was fishy... lol

i wish i was an oscar myer weaner
thats the only thing i wish to be-e-e
if i was an oscar meyer weiner!!!
everyone could take a bite of meeeeee!


I dont know why I posted this?

Thank you very much
OD

hahaha

too much time has passed to dispute charges... end of story.


as for "finding out what happened"... you say your not even mentioning money and you just want to know what happened. is this correct?

I only ask this because why the Fu@% would you make up a story? to GET YOUR MONEY BACK would be the only logical answer

I am not really taking a side in this whole situation but it seems that the whole purpose is to GET YOUR MONEY BACK and now your trying every damn angle to do it.

like I sad, your a YEAR late and a dime short. just going to have to "write it off" LOL

there is no way to ever know what happened. the paper trail has died and so should this thread

Why doesn't a mod just lock this already??

this guy is an idoit after all mazda manic has done for this community gl bro but now matter how hard you try to tarnish his rep its not going to happen and this whole thread just makes me want to order my AP from him even more..

k thanks

there is no such thing as bad publicity......

Mazdamanic helped me save 15% on my car insurance...

Tastes great. Less filling.

that's what she said

I'm fairly sure she said neither of those things, but whatever she said, it was pretty well muffled.
It did sorta sound like "mreff fmimmng, mayshed gmaht". I wasn't really paying attention because my beer kept falling off of her head.

with all the back and forth, that should have been expected.

this thread sucks :cwm27:

Kazuma.

plz die