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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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You guys should of went to the LAX meet, it was a chill time and IN N OUT WAS AWESOME
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ZumnRx8
You guys should of went to the LAX meet, it was a chill time and IN N OUT WAS AWESOME
Our company has a branch in Signal Hill, my boss RAVED about in & out.. He went there to train the staff when it opened.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Thanks joe.
Just trying to do my job.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 10:52 AM
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Have you been to IN N OUT? IF NOT... you have no IDEA what your MISSING

Signal hill is about 15 minutes from LAX, but IN N OUT is AWESOME I told the bitch NO ONIONS on my DOUBLE DOUBLE but somehow they still snuck on there :
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Riwwp, It sounds like its your MAF or cat. My MAF was loose and at 6.5 I would have an extreme loss of power. Tightened it up and problem solved. Plus after that I heard about the cat problem so I got MP so I wouldn't kill the cat and use it on smog day.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Zumn I gets all the free in&out I want. two of my cousins work in alhambra and my dads a truck driver for in&out. Plus the 4x4 rule doesn't apply to me. I can get any size I want.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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What's up Kane? Hows the Turbo and ceramic apex seals treating you?
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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So far so good.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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So just grabbed a bottle of MAF cleaner, took it out, hosed it down, let it dry, reinstalled it, and...actually more power loss than before (not severely more, just noticable), across more of the RPM range. So maybe this is an airflow problem. Also grabbed a brand new air filter, popping that in next.

On the way home from the auto store, I flogged my 8 as hard as I could given the wet streets and power loss (popped enough misfires to have the flashing CEL go steady), and checked my cat when I got home. No glow, and the highest I could get on my IR thermometer was 290 degrees surface temp on my cat.

Putting in the air filter and checking for air leaks next.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by J03K1LLARX8
Zumn I gets all the free in&out I want. two of my cousins work in alhambra and my dads a truck driver for in&out. Plus the 4x4 rule doesn't apply to me. I can get any size I want.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Kane, what are you boostin?
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Nothing ye - still breaking it in and tuning.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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guys, im off to norcal, gonna spend christmas with my moms family, the drives gonna be hellalong so imma be bored, lataes, and have a good time with your families
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Riwwp, Omg dude that sucks. You should check your compression just to be safe.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Kane: oh I see. That's right the dreaded break in period. I remember when I first go my clutch I had to wait 1k to smash on it.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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I put the new filter in, started up, noticed that it cranked much longer than it did when I first started it today, which prompted some dread since long warm startup times is one of the symptoms of failing compression.

Still have the problem, no change with this air filter.

I feel like I am chasing a gremlin.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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morning peeps!

j03: I'm workin' today also so don't feel too bad.

RIWWP: STOP BREAKING stuff!!
Alright, this is a mystery issue that we're going to help you figure out.
We've ruled out coils / plugs / wires. Stupid question but are you POSITIVE they're not loose at the plug?

You cleaned your maf and it got worse?! That's weird. Was the maf completely dry?
you wouldn't happen to have a timing light with ignition pick up would you? (you could test the coils that way to make sure they're firing)

I'm leaning towards an air leak somewhere or the damn cat.
When my RP high flow cat broke up, it was actually very hard to tell that it was broken, car drove like normal most of the time but when I mashed the pedal there was hesitation. When I dropped the cat, the honeycomb was completely broken up.



edit: long start.
oh crap.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Riwwp, FREE ENGINE! YAY! Always look at the bright side.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Riwwp, shake your cat and see if it rattles.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
RIWWP: STOP BREAKING stuff!!
Alright, this is a mystery issue that we're going to help you figure out.
We've ruled out coils / plugs / wires. Stupid question but are you POSITIVE they're not loose at the plug?
Positive. lifted it up, put it on a jack stand, took the wheel off and was pushing the wires onto the plugs with every bit of force I could muster, and no wiggle or shift.

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You cleaned your maf and it got worse?! That's weird. Was the maf completely dry?
you wouldn't happen to have a timing light with ignition pick up would you? (you could test the coils that way to make sure they're firing)
No, I don't. It isn't get much worse, but it was noticable. It leads me to believe that is is an air flow problem, because air flow is the only thing that changed with a cleaning of the MAF. If air flow wasn't at least a contributor, than I would expect that it would have no change or have gotten better.

Originally Posted by Jedi54
I'm leaning towards an air leak somewhere or the damn cat.
When my RP high flow cat broke up, it was actually very hard to tell that it was broken, car drove like normal most of the time but when I mashed the pedal there was hesitation. When I dropped the cat, the honeycomb was completely broken up.
I'm letting everything cool down right now, but I am dropping the cat as my next step. It's 42 degrees here, which feels freakin warm compared to the 14 degrees last night, so doing this now (and cause of my trip on Saturday)


Originally Posted by Jedi54
edit: long start.
oh crap.
Yeah, I'm getting that feeling. I have all my maintenance recorded on MazdaUSA, so hoping they don't put up a fight if it comes to that. Have done all my own maintenance for the last 30k. Still have all but 1 of my oil filters though, with the date and mileage on the filter box, as what little backup it possible.
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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RIWWP: do you have a multimeter? you could test each coil.
I realize they're new but if you got a bad trailing coil that could cause issues pretty quickly. (ask me how I know)

The cat should cool off rather quickly at that temperature but be very careful anyways, hot unburtnt fuel is not fun.

How's the MAF wiring? No kinks in wires, no corrosion anywhere?
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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Can someone please tune me in on the engine of this FD.... yeah I know the first is a FC 3 rotor no biggie... but what about this 4 rotor... kinda weird but its running?

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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
RIWWP: do you have a multimeter? you could test each coil.
I realize they're new but if you got a bad trailing coil that could cause issues pretty quickly. (ask me how I know)

The cat should cool off rather quickly at that temperature but be very careful anyways, hot unburtnt fuel is not fun.

How's the MAF wiring? No kinks in wires, no corrosion anywhere?
MAF wiring is all running through it's stock locations, no changes, no kinks I can find. I can check my "old" (16k) coils easily to see if they are fine or not, can I check the installed new coils without removing my intake again? My god that thing is a pain to remove. What points do I need to be testing, and what value of what measure am I looking for?
Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Zumn, its 26b with two intake manifolds.

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