I think ego got in the way of smarts. Something that always happens.

 

I didn't see the TV show (not a fan of Dr. Phil), but is there a chance these people were on there to confess their crime?
Maybe he had a show about people that are guilty of something and it bothers them and that's why they were on. Again, I don't know because I didn't see the episode, just speculating.


Healthcare is "technically" affordable for many people that claim they can't afford it.

What they really should be saying is;
I can't afford healthcare because I have to pay my cellphone, internet, car insurance, netflix, xbox live membership, vacations, car payment, and other stuff I want.
After that, I don't have enough for something that I claim is "super important" but it's at the bottom of my list of needs when I have to pay for it.

When my parents and I were having financial difficulties right after I graduated high school, we parked the car that was paid for, and cancelled the car insurance, and got rid the other that we owed $ on. Got rid of cable, and my mom got a job at a deli. Her and I rode that same bus route to our jobs. Spent 2.5 hours a day wait/riding the bus. But, we still had health insurance, because that was more important than cars and tv.

Just like Jorge said, it's all about priorities. Actions speak louder than words.

 

True, True, True

 

^^^ HEY!
stop smoking, if you get lung cancer I don't wanna have to pay for your damn medical bills.


okay, that might have been tasteless but I couldn't resist.

 

Hey whats sup guys. How about we make this next San Bernardino Meet, another BIG BANG! IM IN. is it still happening or what? Part of the reason is because I wanna check out that PASTRAMI Place THE HAT or w/e.... even though thtat other restuarant was good as well.

 

Not true: People need to live. You need a car to go to work. You need a phone to communicate and you need health care to live. People have gone bankrupt over medical bills. I sorry but that is a wrong statement. Things are never as black and white as they may appear.

 

Dude! Never give up the smokes! lol

 

if there were to be so many changes to the current health care systems, wouldn't it essentially be a whole new plan anyways?

Did you not read the part where i mentioned that she kept getting denied medical insurance because of her diabetes?

That is intense motivation and i'll agree to that. And I'm not saying that it's always the case when somebody meets someone that points them in the right direction to get where they're at today in their present life(ves), but it does happen. As you say, it didn't happen with your parents though and that's great.

So, working 40hrs/week Monday - Friday 8am to 5pm, and going to school full time and maintaining a 3.0GPA isn't good enough to strive?

The job i have now is all I could find in the time when the recession we're in now was at its darkest. In December 2008, I was laid off my job at EVGA, which did provide medical insurance, and I was lucky to already have a 2nd job while working for EVGA before getting laid off from there. So as soon as that happened, my 2nd job became my first job. They increased my hours to 30/wk which kept me at part time which did not require them to provide medical insurance to me. After a few months of that, they cut my hours back down to 20/wk because this company was in one of the industries largely affected by the recession. At that point was when I started looking for another 2nd job and I found the place I'm at now. I was started at 20hrs/wk part time, and later moved up to full time.

While the pay is slightly better than my last job, this job doesn't provide medical insurance.

BTW, I graduate around Christmas time with my bachelors in communications. After wards, I plan on going to get my CCNA, CCNP, and MSCE certificates. After that, I plan on going back for my masters. I haven't decided if I want an MBA or MIS degree though. i'd probably be wrapping up my master's degree right now if i decided not to be a kid right after high school, and i'll agree to anybody that blames me for that. not focusing in school early on is entirely my fault and nobody else's.

If it's not a small or medium business owned by an individual, it's going to be a corporation or the government.

having multiple properties doesn't make you rich? then what would make you rich?

in taxes, yes. by having more properties, that clearly shows to anybody that you have a higher spending ability which in turn can provide you the ability to pay more in taxes.

everybody pays taxes, but those who have more, also pays more.

As do I. A few years ago I had a absolutely no concept of living within my means and it got me into a lot of trouble. Now that i am older, I know what this is about and I don't spend my money on unnecessary things.

why? because you keep complaining about, at least it seems like that from my perspective, paying taxes. if it bothers you so much, why not get rid of some of your properties, and put the money in several different bank accounts. let the interest grow and have the money work for you that way and not be penalized as severely on your taxes. like you say, it's an investment strategy, so why not stratigize (sp?) differently without needing to pay the high taxes you're complaining about now.

and besides, even if you have a plan today, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll be able to enjoy it tomorrow. you can be involved in a fatal car accident, there can be an earthquake that you would be a casualty of, you could be caught in the cross-fire of gunfire as an innocent bystander, or you can even be the murder victim of some deranged schizophrenic psychopath. hopefully nothing like this will happen to you, but all i'm saying is that we don't know the future of what can happen with our lives.

everybody knows that life isn't fair. we learn this as early as childhood or early teens. i'm just making a point to make it better for everybody. while some people, such as yourself, cesar, and casey don't agree, it's something that should be done because it's morally and ethically right.

it works in other countries according to the people who live in these countries. in all the other forums i'm a part of, topics like these have been brought up where they say that their national health care system works.

notice i didn't mention any communistic country such as cuba or china in my example.

1/6 is still better than 6/6 of the whole economy is it not? if we were at that point though, we would be a true communist or socialist country and not the "communist" or "socialist" country we are now that so many are making photo chopped images of. i still have a voice in my government and i still have my opinion as does everybody here. once that is taken away, then i'll be unhappy about my government.

do you physically live or use all of these properties at the same time? if you can be omnipresent in such manner, please let me know how so i can be a more efficient person. if not, then yes. if you have the amount of money required to buy multiple properties, why not budget your money without buying property? it's like your ego told you, "hey, i have money, i'll use it to buy properties and say it's an investment but i can also use it to flaunt it!"

you're right, it's about priorities and budgeting. but, have you ever been in a situation now in your adulthood that you are not capable of providing yourself everything that you need such as medical insurance? have you ever lost a job that once provided your medical insurance that you couldn't afford otherwise even after you "cut all the fat" from your expenses? have you ever been without medical insurance because you couldn't afford it, period? this is what's going on with many people and not just myself.

many of the people who lost their jobs right now during this recession are in that boat. many of these people had medical insurance that was being provided to them by their employer and now that they're out of a job. these people don't have any medical insurance. some that had some spare cash saved up, budgeted that money appropriately to ride them through the recession as long as possible and others didn't. those that did, probably were able to spend the $300/mo or so required to keep using COBRA medical insurance. some were lucky to find new work right away and others have been without a job since this recession began back in 2008.

by "technically" you mean it's easy to pay the $350 - $450 monthly health insurance bill at the end of the month? even at $350, that's more than my car payment. how is it easy to pay that much money when you're out of a job or if the new job you found is only paying a quarter of what you were originally making?

and if you're going to go on about me about having a car payment, i bought my car on credit to build up my credit score after my credit score took a big dump on me back in 2006 for being w/o a job for 6 months and not making my payments on time. furthermore, i bought my car when i had medical insurance when I was working for EVGA.

again, +1

 

 

For the record, I'm totally done discussing the healthcare issue on this thread.

I'm not sure if it was the stupidity of a claim that you need a car or phone, or the insane mis-interpretation of what Jorge posted regarding his properties as complaining, followed by the advice to get rid of the properties and put the money in the bank to let it earn interest and "work for you."

If you really put cars and phones in need category, then
And if, money sitting in a bank account is considered "working." I guess it's the same as the guy w/ the "Will Work For Food" sign (as long as you give me money, not food, and I don't really have to do anything but reach out my hand and take it).

Those statements made me realize who I'm talking to, and that this discussion will never amount to anything.

 

xrider: you are giving ME financial advice?
you obviously don't understand real estate investments and that I don't live in all those homes (obviously)
I have never flaunted my financial status to anyone, I have no need to, it serves no purpose.

I'm done with this topic as well.

 

The stupidy of someone thinking that low cost health care is the end of the world, or that having a car (to go to work in, cause we all know that public transportation runs 24 /7 or that it is reliable)or phone (because they do have to have some way of getting a hold of you) is selfish or stupid. I think people should stop giving life advice on something they know nothing about.

I'm done as well!

 

skpe is available thru Verizon wireless.

 

this looks pretty cool... can't wait...

www.modulrcase.com/accessories

 

Your link didn't work.
It's this - http://www.modulrcase.com/accessories.php

Missing the ".php" at the end.
Yes, that does look cool.
Don't know if I would trust the shoulder strap, but the wall mount and kickstand look good.

 

We should just all get iPads.

 

So are we setting up another awesome cruise?

 

if i ride shotgun in your beast

 

his N/A, automatic, 4 port is a "beast"?

 

lol haha when its turbo lol he said i can flog it

 

UPDATE

New motor installed, hollowed out CAT, now car still is getting the crappy milage it was getting and running real rich like it did before the cat clogged and blew the motor. I only get 145 miles to a tank instead of the 223 i use to get before the fuel light comes on. So now what could it be? I dont even get a check engine light for the hollowed out cat. The Mazda dealer is not able to tell me anything due to no CEL

 

speaking of crusie and getting of the HC debate, is everyone good for an april 10 meet?

 

on a side note why do flat black cars look soo good when professionally painted?
http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/hennessey-venom-gt-0/#2
http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/2011...s500-europe/#2

 

overall teaser for those of you who dont venture out

 

@ Jedi - You're all knowing/all seeing on the forum. Any idea where he can get some help?


I probably can't make it for the 10th.

That Venom looks amazing. Almost looks like it's from a video game.
Also, I think professionally done flat-black is still polished and buffed to a shine. Not just some JDM Y0!!! kid in the garage w/ a spray can.