San Bernardino monthly Mazda meet and drive.
03-26-2008, 12:16 PM
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^^^ ***paging Cesar***
03-26-2008, 12:25 PM
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my princiapal just got a new cool phone that does STUFF
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/s...edPhoneId=3411
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/s...edPhoneId=3411
03-26-2008, 02:06 PM
#831
IstanbulNotConstantinople
Don't get me started on phone discussions.
That's a great phone. It's the upgrade from the phone I use to have, the 6700.
Sad thing is, that 6800 has built-in GPS and high speed internet on Rev.A EVDO, but because that's the Verizon version, I'm willing to bet the guy who own's it doesn't have those features unlocked, and doesn't know you can unlock them already using Sprint software. It's a little tricky, but tons of people have done it already.
Here's a photo comparison of the 6800 and my new phone the 6900.
I went w/ the 6900 because it's smaller and has more memory, but it won't be on Verizon for another month.
my princiapal just got a new cool phone that does STUFF
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/s...edPhoneId=3411
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/s...edPhoneId=3411
Sad thing is, that 6800 has built-in GPS and high speed internet on Rev.A EVDO, but because that's the Verizon version, I'm willing to bet the guy who own's it doesn't have those features unlocked, and doesn't know you can unlock them already using Sprint software. It's a little tricky, but tons of people have done it already.
Here's a photo comparison of the 6800 and my new phone the 6900.
I went w/ the 6900 because it's smaller and has more memory, but it won't be on Verizon for another month.
03-26-2008, 02:54 PM
#833
IstanbulNotConstantinople
That's how I would feel if you show'd up to the next meet w/ a Blackberry or some other wanna-be smartphone.
03-26-2008, 02:59 PM
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did you read about that airwaves auction last week? This caught my eye in reading the article:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...-auction_n.htm
I guess my question is: what's all that mean in plain english?
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...-auction_n.htm
Analysts had voiced doubt that anyone would claim the airwaves and submit to the open-access condition. But the FCC mandate already has prodded Verizon and AT&T (T) to say they will open their entire networks to any device or application that meets their standards.
03-26-2008, 03:00 PM
#835
IstanbulNotConstantinople
What version of the Q do you have?
I almost bought my dad one, but he'll mess up Windows Mobile too much, and I'll have to fix it so I bought him a Palm Centro.
Q or Q 9C from Sprint?
Qm from Verizon?
Q from AT&T?
I almost bought my dad one, but he'll mess up Windows Mobile too much, and I'll have to fix it so I bought him a Palm Centro.
Q or Q 9C from Sprint?
Qm from Verizon?
Q from AT&T?
03-26-2008, 03:11 PM
#836
So last month was slow. Not too much goin on. So I decided to go out and try to find some new business. And NOTHING happened last month. But it seems everyone hung on to my card, cuz this week has just lit up!!!!
It is nice to be doing a ton of business. It makes for better paychecks, and makes the boss man very happy. But it would be nice if the business was spread out over the month, not piled up on one week. I took this job because it was easy enough that I could take one day per week off, and still have weekends free as well.
Not to bitch or anything, but I am glad the meet is not this weekend . .. cuz I would be too busy to make it.
/rant
It is nice to be doing a ton of business. It makes for better paychecks, and makes the boss man very happy. But it would be nice if the business was spread out over the month, not piled up on one week. I took this job because it was easy enough that I could take one day per week off, and still have weekends free as well.
Not to bitch or anything, but I am glad the meet is not this weekend . .. cuz I would be too busy to make it.
/rant
03-26-2008, 03:16 PM
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rgl: so what are your plans to address that going forward?
03-26-2008, 03:30 PM
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03-26-2008, 04:10 PM
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cesar, ¿donde estas?
03-26-2008, 04:28 PM
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though, recently i haven't been happy with the keys though. whenever i press one key, another key is selectected instead. i gotta get my phone RMAed for a "new" phone. we all know it'll be a refurbed POS that i'll get back. *sigh*
another post from my Q btw
03-26-2008, 04:40 PM
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see post 834 plz. Gracias!
03-26-2008, 04:48 PM
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^^^ do we need to bring in El Nerdo for that one???
03-26-2008, 04:52 PM
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Ain't that the truth.
Already here
(Warning - Plain English can be wordy)
The FCC auction was for the 700mhz bandwidth opened up because they are getting rid of analog TV.
They broke up the 700mhz into several blocks. "C" was the largest most coveted block, which would give the owner the largest consumer base to target.
The FCC made a rule, that the winner of the C-block would have to allow their network to be open to any device and any software.
Currently, in the US, companies have their network on lock down. You can't activate phone from other carriers.
Verizon/Sprint use CDMA technology (CMDA800/CDMA1900). ATT/T-Mobile use GSM (GSM850/GSM900/GSM1800/GSM1900). GSM phones can't work on CDMA, and vice-versa.
But, if you have a Sprint phone, you can't use it on Verizon even though it's the same technology because it's not Verizon's phone. Sprint is the same way about Verizon phones. All carriers in the US lock their phones so you can't take it to another network w/o some trouble to unlock it first.
Also, you should be able to buy a CDMA phone from a manufacturer and activate on the appropriate network, as you should w/ a GSM phone.
Problem is, Verizon/Sprint don't let you activate a phone on their network unless its their phone.
ATT/T-mobile are a little more liberal, and you can purchase a SIM card to use in an un-locked GSM phone you bought elsewhere but they have restrictions on software that could possibly run on it.
Basically the rule imposed regarding an Open Network means that I can buy any phone that works on 700mhz, and the C-Block owner has to let me activate it on their network.
BTW - That article is a little old, and the auction is over. As expected, Verizon won the auction for the C-block.
When the 700mhz goes live, the phone signal strength will be unstoppable. 700mhz penetrates obstacles much better, and will reach further than any other frequencies available now.
Cesaralaniz mentioned EVDO Rev.A which is currently the fastest mobile internet you can get at speeds of 600-1400Kbps download/350-500Kbps upload.
On the 700mhz it's probably going to be about the same, but w/ much better reach. People that have bad cell coverage now will have great coverage and high-speed internet.
Bottom line -
700mhz won't be live for a while since that last TV broadcast is scheduled for 2009.
When it does go live, the 2 big companies that bought most of the 700 spectrum (Verizon and ATT) will have better coverage.
As far as the open network thing goes, it's almost pointless, since Verizon already announced a while back they were opening their network up to any phone/software that runs on CDMA.
The good part about all is the Android project that Google is heading.
It's basically a new operating system for mobile devices that will be open license (anti-MS, anti-Apple).
All the major cell phone makers are behind the Android project and they will probably run Intel chips.
Android will produce awesome phones, and Verizon will have to let them run on 700mhz.
Cellular companies in the US are very backwards in their thinking, especially compared to the rest of the world.
It's similar to the thinking the phone company had a long time ago.
Most of you are too young to remember, but up until the 70's when the Gov't stepped in, you could not buy a phone from a store.
You had to rent your equipment from the phone company (AT&T).
Once they changed that law, phone sales went through the roof, and people just paid for the phone service and used whatever phone they wanted.
Cell phone companies are basically doing the same thing to us now.
They provide a service, but force us to use their equipment. It's like DirectTV telling you which TV you're allowed to use, or Chevron telling you which car you can drive. Who says communism is dead, just take a look at the cellphone industry in the US.
Already here
did you read about that airwaves auction last week? This caught my eye in reading the article:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...-auction_n.htm
I guess my question is: what's all that mean in plain english?
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...-auction_n.htm
I guess my question is: what's all that mean in plain english?
The FCC auction was for the 700mhz bandwidth opened up because they are getting rid of analog TV.
They broke up the 700mhz into several blocks. "C" was the largest most coveted block, which would give the owner the largest consumer base to target.
The FCC made a rule, that the winner of the C-block would have to allow their network to be open to any device and any software.
Currently, in the US, companies have their network on lock down. You can't activate phone from other carriers.
Verizon/Sprint use CDMA technology (CMDA800/CDMA1900). ATT/T-Mobile use GSM (GSM850/GSM900/GSM1800/GSM1900). GSM phones can't work on CDMA, and vice-versa.
But, if you have a Sprint phone, you can't use it on Verizon even though it's the same technology because it's not Verizon's phone. Sprint is the same way about Verizon phones. All carriers in the US lock their phones so you can't take it to another network w/o some trouble to unlock it first.
Also, you should be able to buy a CDMA phone from a manufacturer and activate on the appropriate network, as you should w/ a GSM phone.
Problem is, Verizon/Sprint don't let you activate a phone on their network unless its their phone.
ATT/T-mobile are a little more liberal, and you can purchase a SIM card to use in an un-locked GSM phone you bought elsewhere but they have restrictions on software that could possibly run on it.
Basically the rule imposed regarding an Open Network means that I can buy any phone that works on 700mhz, and the C-Block owner has to let me activate it on their network.
BTW - That article is a little old, and the auction is over. As expected, Verizon won the auction for the C-block.
When the 700mhz goes live, the phone signal strength will be unstoppable. 700mhz penetrates obstacles much better, and will reach further than any other frequencies available now.
Cesaralaniz mentioned EVDO Rev.A which is currently the fastest mobile internet you can get at speeds of 600-1400Kbps download/350-500Kbps upload.
On the 700mhz it's probably going to be about the same, but w/ much better reach. People that have bad cell coverage now will have great coverage and high-speed internet.
Bottom line -
700mhz won't be live for a while since that last TV broadcast is scheduled for 2009.
When it does go live, the 2 big companies that bought most of the 700 spectrum (Verizon and ATT) will have better coverage.
As far as the open network thing goes, it's almost pointless, since Verizon already announced a while back they were opening their network up to any phone/software that runs on CDMA.
The good part about all is the Android project that Google is heading.
It's basically a new operating system for mobile devices that will be open license (anti-MS, anti-Apple).
All the major cell phone makers are behind the Android project and they will probably run Intel chips.
Android will produce awesome phones, and Verizon will have to let them run on 700mhz.
Cellular companies in the US are very backwards in their thinking, especially compared to the rest of the world.
It's similar to the thinking the phone company had a long time ago.
Most of you are too young to remember, but up until the 70's when the Gov't stepped in, you could not buy a phone from a store.
You had to rent your equipment from the phone company (AT&T).
Once they changed that law, phone sales went through the roof, and people just paid for the phone service and used whatever phone they wanted.
Cell phone companies are basically doing the same thing to us now.
They provide a service, but force us to use their equipment. It's like DirectTV telling you which TV you're allowed to use, or Chevron telling you which car you can drive. Who says communism is dead, just take a look at the cellphone industry in the US.
03-26-2008, 05:02 PM
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El Nerdo to the rescue!
so in even more basic english: It dont' mean **** till at least 2009.
THEN after that, we hope that the Android project is up and running and we get to all go out and buy the latest and greatest phones.
so in even more basic english: It dont' mean **** till at least 2009.
THEN after that, we hope that the Android project is up and running and we get to all go out and buy the latest and greatest phones.
03-26-2008, 05:27 PM
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Now in a perfect world, Sprint will actually have their WiMax service up and running everywhere
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1206...ews_technology
and Sprint and Verizon will be on EVDO RevB.
WiMax - Think wireless internet you have at home, but w/ a 30mile range.
Speeds up to 70Mbps at close range, but more like 10Mbps further away from the source.
EVDO RevB - Rev A is capable of up 3.2Mbps download, but normally runs around 1Mbps, RevB is capable of 4x's what the RevA is running. If it's on a cellular network, range is limited to coverage.
As a comparison, T1 is about 1.2Mbps download & upload.
Go here and see were you're at.
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
Scroll down and pick a server nearest you.
If you're at a company the firewall may block the upload test.
After you see your results, EVDO RevA or RevB seems pretty impressive for a cell phone.
03-26-2008, 07:19 PM
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Blah blah blah
technical mumbo jumbo
Go here and see were you're at.
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
After you see your results, EVDO RevA or RevB seems pretty impressive for a cell phone.
technical mumbo jumbo
Go here and see were you're at.
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
After you see your results, EVDO RevA or RevB seems pretty impressive for a cell phone.
5155kbps download
1837kbpd upload