i might be able to make your meet if it's this sat.

 

yeah that would be great, too bad is it not a run aka big bear or crestline but at least it is something different

 

Well guys, I'm in a dilema. I was driving around town today when I see a MS6 next to me. Well he smokes me pretty. So what i do? I go strait to the Mazda dealer and I test drive the thing. Well I was impress with how good the car feels. Well I love my 8 but the MS 6 has more grunt. It would also serve better as a family car and more economical since insurance will be cheaper and gas is better. So in the back of my head I want to get it but at the same time I like my rotaries. I just hope Mazda would do something to claim the 8 as their top oif the line sports car soon.

 

Would you have gone to the dealer if you hadn't seen the MS6 on the street?

 

yeah but it is the top of the line sports cars, the mx-5 is just a littel roadster and the 6 is a sedan no matter what model it is. stick with the 8 more fun better looks and you get all of us as friends

 

I doubt insurance will be cheaper since it is turbo charged and has horsepower above 250...puts it in a different rating/class for insurance purposes. I would highly suggest running a VIN number by your insurance carrier to see what the rates are actually going to be. You may also run into a limited production vehicle rate increase as well. Good luck on that one. There were many cars that I could afford, based on the sticker price...but the 8 was the only one that I could afford with insurance included in the monthly payment calculation.

And, I thought you were going to tuurbo your car...whats the update?

Oh, and the MS6 is fugly.

 

That San Bernardino meet for January is this Saturday, but there is a group of five of us who are competing in the autocross practice event that day at the speedway, and the rest of the bunch is coming to watch and get ride-a-longs. YOu're more than welcome to come and join the festivities.

 

I did check on the insurance and it is cheaper. As for turbo for the 8? I'm taking my time till someone has something I could use for the ECU or I save some more $ to put the 20B I have here that I was planning in putting in my FD. But so far I only have one car and I can't go to crazy because it is my "family" car. I don't want to go out and buy a second car if I'm planning on getting station over seas.

 

actually I was thinking about it for a while but I didn't spec that a 3589 lbs car would be that quick.

 

I didn't know that the car was the reason you guys like me around

 

sorry man didnt mean it that way, you are great, i will see you in feburary or this saturday?

 

Have you thought of a used STI or EVO?

 

I have a 6 and 4 year old kids. The Sti is small and not that confy. My wife hates the EVO and I don't like them that much either. I like it from a performance stance but that is it. I though about the Legacy GT. My brother has one and there is something that I don't like. I think is the Luxury look that tries to get your attention away from what ever I don't like. It just gives me the impresion that is a fake. I'm a Mazda fan so I'm trying to stick with it.

 

I know you didn't I was just messing with you :D

 

Well After doing some research on the MS6, I think I'm going to keep the 8 for another year at least. So I hope when it comes time to trade in the 8 For a better version of it.

 

Yey!!!!

 

Thats what I love about you Jorge. A man of many words

 

is the ms6 really that fast? that seems kind of no fair to us rx-8 owners. rx-8 is supposed to be the flagship sportscar, not the boxy looking sedan like the ms6. mazda has ripped us off if that is the case... now i'm sad.

 

Straight-line speed is the only place the MS6 beats the RX-8, right? That isn't all that makes up a sports car.

 

sorry konig it beats it in braking as well, the rx8 edges it out only in handling but by a suprisingly small margin(by independant testing not mazdas bullshit numbers)

either way the ms6 is at the top of its game and the rx8 is just starting, the rx8 has more power potential boosted and more room for handling improvement

 

Oh well I guess I was wrong :\ . Must have some pretty nice brakes then, because the RX-8's brakes are pretty damn big!

 

damn, i'm seriously depressed now... i still love my 8, but i feel cheated.

 

Actually they have the same brakes I believe.

But you have to test drive it. It does handles pretty good. I bet if you lower it it will make a night and day difference since the MS6 sit so hi. The only problem with the car is that is tunned to run 93+ octane. some people are reporting when 91 is in use the car will open the wastegate at 4250 RPM and run off boost in high gears. But you can use 87 and the car will not boost. The ECU recognize what time of octane you are using and adjust boost from there. I just like it because for a family car is more practical and it has *****!!!

 

Now you know how I feel. I hope Mazda do something about this. I think this is going to hurt them on sale of RX-8 specially when they haven't releasethe 06 yet.

 

Honda, I got your back...
Mazda has OFFICIALLY released pland for the 2006 RX-8.
Press Release


LOS ANGELES – Mazda today unveiled the 2006 model-year edition of its highly regarded RX-8 sports car. Highlights of the new model feature an upgraded 212-horsepower rotary engine, a new six-speed Sport AT automatic transmission and a "SHINKA"Special Edition package limited to only 1,500 vehicles.

The new transmission is mated to an upgraded RENESIS rotary engine, now tuned to produce 212-horsepower, an increase of 15-horsepower over the previous model. The "SHINKA"Special Edition package adds various exterior, interior and mechanical enhancements, bringing it to a higher level of sportiness.

"Since its launch in 2003 the RX-8 has been an absolute all-star, with an athletic exterior, an interior that offers comfort and practicality, and Mazda's trademark RENESIS rotary engine that continues to win accolades from automotive press,"said Tetsu Nakagawa, RX-8 vehicle line manager. "With the new six-speed automatic transmission and the addition of the SHINKA package, the RX-8 continues to get stronger in 2006."

The 2006 Mazda RX-8 is available as either a 232-horsepower model fitted with a six-speed manual transmission, or the new 212-horsepower model fitted with a six-speed automatic with steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters for a Formula 1-style driving experience.

Both horsepower figures are SAE J1349 Certified Power, which is a new method of rating vehicle power for 2006. The SAE J1349 is an automotive standard written by the Society of Automotive Engineers to provide manufacturers with a method of certifying the power of engines.

The RX-8 "SHINKA"Special Edition takes its name from the Japanese word meaning "evolution"or "transformation"and mixes RX-8's sports car flavor with a touch of luxury. Available with either a six-speed manual or the new six-speed Sport A/T, the RX-8 SHINKA Special Edition features an upgraded and uniquely tuned suspension with uprated shock absorbers and urethane-filled cross-member supports for increased performance and ride comfort. In addition to SHINKA's unique leather/Alcantara ® seating surfaces, Mazda added leather to the handbrake lever, upgraded trim on the doors and center console, and revised the finish on the 18-inch alloy wheel. The SHINKA Special Edition also features a SIRIUS satellite radio system as standard, with a one-year subscription at no cost.

The heart of the RX-8 – and what makes its unique four-passenger cabin and nimble performance possible – is Mazda's unique rotary engine. Mazda is the only company in the world mass-producing the rotary engine for use in a passenger car.

By turning a triangular rotor in a cocoon-shaped combustion chamber, the

RX-8's rotary engine efficiently performs the four processes of intake, compression, combustion and exhaust. The RENESIS engine is remarkably smooth and high revving — all the way to 9,000 rpm (7,000 rpm on Sport A/T-equipped models) — and offers a smaller engine footprint than traditional internal combustion engines (some 60-percent smaller than a comparably powered V-6, and 40-percent smaller than a four-cylinder).

Improving upon 40 years of development, the RENESIS engine boasts side intake and exhaust ports with nearly 30-percent more intake area and twice as much exhaust area than previous rotary engines. The efficiencies gained through larger intake and exhaust ports excludes the need for forced induction.

The RX-8's normally aspirated 1.3-liter engine might appear diminutive to the untrained eye when compared to large displacement V-8s or heavy-weight V-10s or

V-12s. However, through the incredible efficiencies of a rotary powerplant, an advanced three-stage intake system and an electronic throttle, the RENESIS engine delivers smooth, linear power on a grand scale.

The trend of innovation in the engine bay continues to the RX-8's styling with its "freestyle"four-door design. Mazda has proven that a true sports car does not need to sacrifice space or convenience for performance. With ample passenger room for four full-size adults, it also offers enough trunk space for a weekend's worth of luggage.

Mazda engineers also incorporated numerous active and passive safety elements throughout the car. Active safety features include the use of large ABS-equipped disc brakes on all wheels as well as precise steering and suspension systems. Available Dynamic Stability Control provides superior handling and can be disabled when driving and road conditions allow.

Passive systems also are present throughout the RX-8. Despite the absence of a center B-pillar, the RX-8 has an exceptionally rigid body, a feat accomplished through the use of a series of locking pins, which hold the doors together and tie each door directly into the roof and floor. Integrating the frame components helps dissipate crash energy through the vehicle's structure.

The 2006 Mazda RX-8 comes with a four-year roadside assistance program. With a call to a toll-free number, RX-8 owners can access roadside assistance 24 hours a day, 365 days a year throughout the United States and Canada. For all 2006 Mazda vehicles, the company will provide a free loaner car in the event a warrantable condition requires alternative transportation.

The RX-8 is covered by a comprehensive four-year/50,000-mile warranty that covers every part on the vehicle except those subject to normal wear. In addition, the RX-8 is covered by a five-year/unlimited-mileage corrosion warranty.