Anyone in LA or Southern Cali installed Canzoomer's stage 1? Curious to see how it performs in real life and hoping to maybe get a ride in one with the mod. See if my butt dyno can really feel the difference.

 

I dont think there's been (m)any shipped yet... I have one ordered so if/when it shows up I'll let you know how it goes.

 

Hey you happen to have any info on the stage 1 mod? I've been trying to read up on it, but can't find a thread that tells me exactly what it is. From what I gathered its a chip that modifies the ECU? Was wondering if it ruins warranty. I got bumper to bumper warranty and was thinking of getting stage 1, but afraid it might void warranty.

 

I aint buying that, have ur ecu tuned by a real tuner. not some random.

 

efini.....you are such a hater.

skagen, there are lots and lots of thread posts on canzoomer's stage 1 modifcation. there's at least 50 pages of threads on it and proally infinite topics that discuss something about his mod. just look around a little......

 

Skagen, you are slacking. The technical thread is HUGE and comprehensive. You need to spend the time to read all of it.

Anyway, Canzoomer told me that we Californians just have to remove the unit (takes only 10 to 15 min) before we bring the car in for service or smogging. He also said to drive the car around a little bit so the computer can adjust BEFORE taking the car in for service.

Canzoomer said that, if we do this, there is no way for anyone to tell that his Stage 1 was on and that the car was not running CA legal emissions during that time.

 

bumped for an update

 

I started a new post (oops) since I forgot about this one:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=19759

I'm just off to wash the car now and will be doing a little more tooling around today.

So far the results are noticeable but, as others have mentioned, it's not like strapping a rocket on the car.

Now I'm eager to get the thing on a dyno to see side-by-side results.

 

sweet dude, let us know if you find a dyno. if i have time i might plan a trip to sd, mind if we hookup so i can bum a ride in your mod'd 8? :D

 

The technical thread is huge on this mod but when you dig in deep it is mostly vapor.

I won't discourage anyone from using this(if it really exists) but I am not putting any mods made up by an amature in my car. Canzoomer comes across as sincere and a nice guy but there is hardly any testing done on this. He tried it on his own RX-8 and has blown it, blamed on unknown issues.

Read up on the real stuff from Mazda Japan. The late 2005 model will have a redesigned intake and exhaust boosting power by a modest 10 BHP.

 

They coming out with a late 2005 model thats only going to add 10HP? Man, I was hoping for a bit more, like 40HP more lol. You happen to have a link? Thanks.

 

Don't know what time period the above quote is from, but I'm one of the guys riding around with a CZ Stage I installed making 20+HP and loving it. Go to the Canzoomer portion of Vendor's forum for some history and current stuff; you'll see he is no amateur.

 

Shebam,

You are a gutsy man/women, putting in a mod by a very nice but unknown person in a brand new car under warranty.

Ask yourself, how much testing was done on this product ? How does it impact longevity, warranty, etc. ? When your engine

I know 20 extra BHP is very nice but I hope there is little downside that will go with it. When your engine goes poooof, who you gonna call, Canzoomer? Maybe he will give you your money back but there is warranty or guarantee with this product.

Sorry, I don't mena to be negative but facts are facts.

 

another fact would be that if properly removed, the dealer will never know you had canzoomer's stage 1 installed

if you read up on most of the facts in all the threads about CZ's stage I upgrade you would know that one of the goals of this mod was that it would be able to be removed with no signs of tampering. as opposed to a re-flashed ecu, which you would have to subsequently reflash every time you went back to the dealer for service or warranty work.

 

aside from the fact it can be hidden( which doesn't mean it is a good device) the design goals of CZ's unit are ones that seem to be agreed upon by other "pro" tuners. (I wouldn't be surpised if other fuel maps from other devices look very similar) CZ doesn't seem like he;s out on a limb here, and he's very obviously a professional programmer and fabricator of computer interfaces. I dont have my unit yet (on order) but I am confident they are well within the safety margin they report.

 

I'm always astonished when people suggest you just remove a modification when you need warranty work performed on your car. If that modification caused the problem which requires the warranty work to be performed, then you are doing nothing short of fraud.

Just because the dealers try to defraud us, and just because Mazda is a big corporation with deep pockets, doesn't justify it. Fraud is fraud, whoever perpetuates it.

If you don't agree, then don't complain when the dealer tries to screw you over. Instead tell them they're doing the same thing you'd do if you got the chance. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

However, if you hate it when a dealer tries to defraud you, then you should hate it when you try to defraud them...

 

i do not suggest this to try and fraud anyone. i was implying that if you needed to bring you car in for warranty work that was not related to the ecu mod i.e. brakes, suspension, etc. why risk having something there that might cause the dealer to try and void your warranty which would only cause more trouble?

tell me badmoodguy, if you had an exhaust on your car and you brought in your car for some suspension warranty claim work and they voided your warranty, wouldnt you be pissed?

one final note....CZ's stage I mod should not cause any problem with the car because it was originally supposed to have 250 horsepower. hell, they might even be short of the current 238 hp claim. stage I dynos have shown rwhp outputs of around 180-190rwhp. with a carbon fiber driveshaft, drivetrain loss should not be so much.

btw nice first post........

 

The main reasons it costs car comapnies near a BILLION dollar to introduce a new car is the extensive testing they perform on all aspects of the car, from winshield wipers to how the leather wears after years of use to engine longevity. They do this to be able to offer 4 years of warranty with all kinds of drivers, some silly ones we read from on this forum.

Now comes a very nice guy from Canada with 30 minutes of testing on his electronics and some say, well it shouldn't hurt anything. Well, the truth is that it might and it might not, we just don't know because he has not tested it.

The question is: are you willing to damage your car and gain maybe 10 BHP (totally unconfirmed)? Those who are will buy Canzoomer's kit and other snake oil. This is why we live in America, freedom of choice.

Good luck to all with the CZ kit and keep reporting your progress.

 

Mazda de-tuned the engine to meet CA emissions. The CAT and other componets are designed for the higher HP and diferent temps. The CANZOOMER mod only puts the enigne a littler higher than the Japan spec cars. I don't see that one who installs it is really taking a risk or damaging their car.

I will....as soon as my waranty expires. That will be in less than 1.5 years with the miles I drive.